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To folks with experience with CG, prosthetic makeup and puppetry, how would you create Chopper for season 2 of One Piece?
- Thread starter DukeBlueBall
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Sweet Tooth used a combination of CG and a puppet for Bobby and it looked pretty good
View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/D1jhX3Dz2TQ
View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/D1jhX3Dz2TQ
Nothing but the most truthful representation for my boy Chopper!
Chopper about to melt hearts all over again if done right. And he could be massive and I'm not just talking in the transformation type way. The merch could give baby yoda a run for his froggies
I do not have experience but I think a puppet (with animatronics) with the occasional CG version for more mobile shots feels like the play here. I feel like the aesthetic would fit in the show also. Basically do Bobby from Sweet Tooth except maybe use CG to enhance the expressions ala Where the Wild Things Are movie.
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Call Jim Henson Company, make an awesome puppet and do some cg enhancements
View: https://youtu.be/tmVQDcDxpss?t=180
Literally what I was thinking ofI do not have experience but I think a puppet (with animatronics) with the occasional CG version for more mobile shots feels like the play here. I feel like the aesthetic would fit in the show also. Basically do Bobby from Sweet Tooth except maybe use CG to enhance the expressions ala Where the Wild Things Are movie.
Combination depended on his form. I'm going to the series understanding they will not have budget to do everything perfect- so I am okay with some creative license. Arlong look pretty good in practical make up. I could see standard Chopper as a puppet (like Grogu) of a person in makeup. Save the CGI for the more wacky forms.
Same way as Detective Pikachu or Rocket Racoon? Full CG
This is a solved problem
I don't know why people are suggesting a puppet like Yoda/Grogu unless they just don't know much about One Piece. Chopper is lively and moves around and interacts with people and things far more than either of those 2 did. Not to mention he has transformations and it's easier to just go from full CG morphing into another CG model than to go from puppet -> CG morphing -> another puppet...It would make no sense
This is a solved problem
I don't know why people are suggesting a puppet like Yoda/Grogu unless they just don't know much about One Piece. Chopper is lively and moves around and interacts with people and things far more than either of those 2 did. Not to mention he has transformations and it's easier to just go from full CG morphing into another CG model than to go from puppet -> CG morphing -> another puppet...It would make no sense
How is he even holding that container?How do we bring this guy to live action?
cutest version possible, slap it all over season 2 branding AND launch stuffed animals/toys.
It should literally print money.
It should literally print money.
Like Brazil onde said it makes more sense lore wise to use a kid in makeup, but OP asked for people with experience with puppets, not people with experience in One Piece
Movement is the biggest issue with going the puppet route. Chopper needs to be able to move and emote like a normal person. At some point the puppet angle becomes unfeasible. It's telling that the largely stationary Transponder Snails were done with animatronics while the News Coo was done in CG.
Like it took Disney three bloody seasons to get comfortable with Baby Yoda sliding across the floor, and you don't even see his damn feet doing it. Chopper needs to be able to do a lot more than that.
Detective Pikachu would probably look the best and work with the transforming gimmickSame way they did with Pikachu, along with his better design.
They could use that as the base for the model, so artists know where to paint out and actors know who to act against (kinda like what they did for the newer Planet of the Apes trilogy), but just using a kid in makeup would look horrendous
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Same way they did with Pikachu, along with his better design.
Pickachu is a Hollywood movie production and likely has many times the amount of budget per scene that a live action character would get.
Because a full CG regular cast member is going to get expensive. If it was a (big budget) movie I'd say CG, but for a show (even one as expensive as this one is) I don't know. Movement would definitely be an issue at times, but those are shots you can always do in CG. Would love someone with more experience to be able to weigh in on that though since again, I don't have any. Maybe the cost difference is negligible if you already have a CG double.
I would love for them to go the detective Pikachu route but like I don't think that's going to be cheap lol
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The type of puppets, because they'd need ones with various different switchable parts, wouldn't be cheap either. Not to mention the added difficulty of maneuvering the puppet/filming around it. Grogu wasn't chosen for cost reasons, but for stylistic/nostalgia reasons.
And as mentioned, they would still need full CG models to handle transformations regardless
No idea lol. I don't think there's a good way to just estimate. Studios/production companies solicit work from visual effect studios and get pricing estimates and contract whoever can do the job when they need it done for how much they have in their budget
Well, they signed up for a One Piece adaptation lol
There's a lot of things harder than Chopper in the next seasons
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Sure but not for a main cast member (though I do wonder about Franky now)
I think we already see that we're going to downsize a lot of the humanoid people who would otherwise be gigantic.
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Yes but they have the creative liberty to downsize those harder stuff for budget purposes. Chopper as a main cast is more difficult to downsize in scope.
That or a little person...
That's how they did Ewoks, and Chopper is basically that to be faire (other than his transformations)
Person with costume + prostetics, that's also what they did for the fishmen in 1st season.