That's why I turn off all end game scenarios. The mechanic has potential but need needs more tuning.
Trying out Karl Franz again and I'm definitely having more fun. The imperial authority thing doesn't feel as punishing and it's great; Vlad's taken over half the empire and I still feel like I'm still in the fight. Usually I'd be quitting by now.
always turn that one, Wood Elfs, and Black Pyramid off.
Dwarf scenario: super dumb and oppressive and doesnt make sense while playing Order.
Wood Elf: doesnt make sense at all
Black Pyramid: nobody likes playing in the snoozelands
Good to know this DLC is Ace
The grudge mechanic is badly balanced. I'd recomend trying the other LL at this moment unless you are like me and don't care about Grudges. I just enjoy seeing dwarves blast the shit out of chaos. Quite literally at times.
I always personalize the endame scenarios tow aht makeses sense. The dwarf one i always deactivate for order factions.
I've been watching a guy play on legendary and seeing 10-15 full doom stacks just show up is absurd. It's one of the things that makes me genuinely struggle to understand the appeal as lord sniping on the campaign map is uh.... awful.
I played all three of the new DLC to short victory on normal (I'm terrible) and I thought they were pretty overtuned especially since I did well with them. I loved Malakai the most.
I've only played Malakai so far. His campaign is pretty fun, Malakai himself is a bit underwhelming in combat, but I guess he has Gotrek to make up for that.
The Thunderbarge is awesome, it racks up insane amount of kills. Just send it flying over the enemy formations and watch it start blasting!
The Thunderbarge is awesome, it racks up insane amount of kills. Just send it flying over the enemy formations and watch it start blasting!
I've been playing a Morghur campaign and he is really fun when you can have three Damage Aura effects, including the Nemesis Crown, plus his damage-over-time Contact effect. He is not that strong fighting Lords and Heroes, but he shreds units by just existing near them. Had a bunch of 100k+ damage battles against the Skaven.
Beastmen still just such a fun faction.
Beastmen still just such a fun faction.
Got back into this game again playing as Empire. Having a lot of fun and it seems like a lot of people had the same idea lol. Nice to come back to so many improvements with the old factions.
So far I like Elsbeth's campaign more than Thamurkhan's. The chieftains lack a bit of identity and managing all of them is quite a lot of micro management.
Elsbeth's mechanics are more straight forward and the Land Ship, and rockets that spawn magical vortexes are just silly fun.
Elsbeth's mechanics are more straight forward and the Land Ship, and rockets that spawn magical vortexes are just silly fun.
Yeah I kinda feel you on that. I am enjoying my Tamurkhan campaign but kind of want to just start an Epidimius one instead for a simpler, plague the world experience.
Also might try the mod that moves him to Lustria. Probably a bit tougher but it will be nice to start so far away from the chaos wastes
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I've been enjoying Tamurkhan a lot more than Elspeth, I like the unique heroes and the victory condition a lot more
One thing and I don't blame them too much given how much was added but so far the LHs have felt very lackluster. Kazyn and Bruckner really feel like they're missing spice, haven't played with Garagrim. They definetly feel less fun than SoC LHs even the Golden Knight
But overall enjoying the games a lot and looking forward to another Empire/Nurgle campaign, hoping Dwarves get their hot fix soon so I can try them out
One thing and I don't blame them too much given how much was added but so far the LHs have felt very lackluster. Kazyn and Bruckner really feel like they're missing spice, haven't played with Garagrim. They definetly feel less fun than SoC LHs even the Golden Knight
But overall enjoying the games a lot and looking forward to another Empire/Nurgle campaign, hoping Dwarves get their hot fix soon so I can try them out
Big fan of Theo Bruckner. His abilities and his unique items make him a fantastic lord killer. Big Henry for the North.
Been playing mainly Dwarfs. Ungrim, Thorgrim, and now Thorek. All super easy. Can auto-resolve most everything with ease. Unsure if they are overtuned but your Dwarfen allies really pull a lot of weight now.
Been playing mainly Dwarfs. Ungrim, Thorgrim, and now Thorek. All super easy. Can auto-resolve most everything with ease. Unsure if they are overtuned but your Dwarfen allies really pull a lot of weight now.
They did a great job with the Nurgle rework--I completed a campaign as Ku'gath and had a blast. Marched over to the Empire and put out the most nightmarish endgame crisis I've faced yet--the Wood Elves. Only thing that still feels really lacklustre are the Nurgle rites which, honestly, I struggled to find a use for beyond the +growth and +replenishment rites. But plagues are your bread and butter and the game now utilises them brilliantly. Highly recommended campaign now.
Then I couldn't resist and played an Azhag campaign for the obvious reason DOUBLE EVIL CROWNS!!!!!!!!!!!! Not only can Azhag get the Nemesis Crown but he, too, can wield its power until he's crippled by its effects. Not really much to report there but not even the Chaos Dwarf crisis can defeat the WAAAGH.
And now I'm playing a Morathi campaign for some reason. Been mostly uneventful--it is much more sedate than my Malekith campaigns (multiple because they usually went down in flames) in part because Morathi feels an order of magnitude stronger, between her ironclad hold on her territory and her panoply of heroes, never lacking an option to outpace an opponent. Oh, and once again I have forgotten how much Dark Elves rely on Black Arks to recruit units, fielding one way too late then forgetting to have it near my second army....
Sure, I bought the DLC and could play new lords, but there's so many others I want to play first. Next up will either be Karl or Morghur. or maybe a skaven
Then I couldn't resist and played an Azhag campaign for the obvious reason DOUBLE EVIL CROWNS!!!!!!!!!!!! Not only can Azhag get the Nemesis Crown but he, too, can wield its power until he's crippled by its effects. Not really much to report there but not even the Chaos Dwarf crisis can defeat the WAAAGH.
And now I'm playing a Morathi campaign for some reason. Been mostly uneventful--it is much more sedate than my Malekith campaigns (multiple because they usually went down in flames) in part because Morathi feels an order of magnitude stronger, between her ironclad hold on her territory and her panoply of heroes, never lacking an option to outpace an opponent. Oh, and once again I have forgotten how much Dark Elves rely on Black Arks to recruit units, fielding one way too late then forgetting to have it near my second army....
Sure, I bought the DLC and could play new lords, but there's so many others I want to play first. Next up will either be Karl or Morghur. or maybe a skaven
I like the new campaign mechanics, but I just can't get into their units. I feel it's just spamming similar feeling infantry with a couple of cav units, and battles feel very grindy. Am I missing something?
Nurgles "trademark" is units that are slow and tanky. With the DLC you do get some units with more mobility and offense focus, but at their core they are a grind faction. That is the reason they are one of the few (2 - 3) factions I don`t enjoy playing that much, but my co op partner enjoys them for that reason. As with a lot of things it is just a matter of taste.
I liked buckner he has some sick on foot lor animations. He also blows when he dies.
Kazyn just feels like a LL in a hero form. He just doesn't change the army much.
Nurgle is all a out outlasting the enemy through cheer tankiness.
The key us push forward towards unfavorable e garments and use plagues to even the battlefield. With tamurkhan I was usually fight 2 armies all the time and winning relatively easily because my big HP pool and the debufss/buff from my plagues make the enemy armies toothless.
THe key is using a suitable number of
Once you get Great Unclean Ones and Toad Dragons it gets a lot more fun IMO, but the general grindiness is very much a defining feature of Nurgle, as others have covered. You can mix things up a little but it does ultimately boil down to swarming the enemy with infantry while your more specialised units and monsters do the rest of the work. Strategic use of plagues will make things go faster, but it doesn't change your tactics in battle all that much.
I will say, Nurgle's probably the most fun I've had with siege assaults. Your forces feel apocalypic and inevitable even when the odds are against you--it's a really unique vibe.
I take back my complaints about Nurgle armies. After I leveled up Thamurkhan a bit and got his Toad Dragon and cleaver he's a rotten beast. Got a chaos giant as well and watching it smash and vomit all over the enemies is fun. And being able to actually zoom and watch the action without too much microing is nice as well. Chaos Warriors of Nurgle and Rot Knights seem super strong. I had one unit of Chaos Warrios keeping Archaon in Place and taking him down to 40% health by themselves on Hard.
I spread them around for 2 reasons:
- Tamurkhan and Kazyk together can take an army or 2 when high leveled
- Having chieftains and their special units gives variety to my armies
This way isntead of just having 3 types of armies (mortal only, demon only and combined army) I get that is the army with norsca units, etc,
Apparently I'm just awful with Dwarfs, last time I did a stuntie campaign was Warhammer II, where I won with Thorgrim so it was pretty easy. This time around I wanted to try Belegar, and it's rough going! Surrounded by enemies, not enough money for multiple armies, and expansion is quite challenging. Between Aranessa, Ikit Claw, and Skrag, when I push back against one of them in one direction, one of the others comes in from the other side and starts taking over my settlements. I've had a cycle of the same 3 settlements never getting above Tier 2 for 40 turns, I can't even manage to get gunpowder units yet. You can't even really go into the red long enough to make 2 armies viable, since the cost is so high.
Any good tips for avoiding Ikit's nukes? It doesn't seem to matter how spread out I am, or even if I pause the game to try and dodge the moment I see the outline of the nuke drop... he always hits and 1-3 units are borderline wiped out. I've had to resort to auto-resolving against him to keep casualties down which is not really what I want to be doing.
I can't really use the grudgebearers yet either, the upkeep is so high on them I feel like its better to take 2 units of Dwarf warriors instead.
Anyway, Aranessa is dead, and I'm at the gates of Ikit Claws last settlement, after having pushed him out of Skavenblight. After that I'll have to go and deal with Skrag as he just took over Karak Izor. Of course, while I go to deal with him, Morghur will probably try and move in on Skavenblight :D. Karak Eight Peaks feels very far away!
Initial advice seemed to be not to confederate Karak Hirn, because it makes the confederation cost of the other LL's via grudge double. But, now I'm not so sure, it's really the only other habitable zones for quite a large area. My plan was just to make them happy and confederate them the "normal" way, but they are just not going for it. Not sure why I bothered doing it this way, my particular style is to not really confederate other LL's anyway, I prefer to really just have the flavour of the LL I'm playing; if I want to try Ungrim or others, I'll play their faction (one day).
If I was to restart this campaign (again, for like the third time...) I think I'd confederate Karak Hirn and prioritize Ikit Claw and git him real early when he only has 1-2 settlements. But, lets see if I can claw my way back from this scenario first :D
Any good tips for avoiding Ikit's nukes? It doesn't seem to matter how spread out I am, or even if I pause the game to try and dodge the moment I see the outline of the nuke drop... he always hits and 1-3 units are borderline wiped out. I've had to resort to auto-resolving against him to keep casualties down which is not really what I want to be doing.
I can't really use the grudgebearers yet either, the upkeep is so high on them I feel like its better to take 2 units of Dwarf warriors instead.
Anyway, Aranessa is dead, and I'm at the gates of Ikit Claws last settlement, after having pushed him out of Skavenblight. After that I'll have to go and deal with Skrag as he just took over Karak Izor. Of course, while I go to deal with him, Morghur will probably try and move in on Skavenblight :D. Karak Eight Peaks feels very far away!
Initial advice seemed to be not to confederate Karak Hirn, because it makes the confederation cost of the other LL's via grudge double. But, now I'm not so sure, it's really the only other habitable zones for quite a large area. My plan was just to make them happy and confederate them the "normal" way, but they are just not going for it. Not sure why I bothered doing it this way, my particular style is to not really confederate other LL's anyway, I prefer to really just have the flavour of the LL I'm playing; if I want to try Ungrim or others, I'll play their faction (one day).
If I was to restart this campaign (again, for like the third time...) I think I'd confederate Karak Hirn and prioritize Ikit Claw and git him real early when he only has 1-2 settlements. But, lets see if I can claw my way back from this scenario first :D
Compeltely avoiding Ikit`s nukes as the dwars is pretty much impossible. You ahve to either just eat the losses or auto resolve the fights. Belegar is the hardest dwarf campaign with his upkeep penalty and one of the harder dwarf start positions.
You need to hop the mountains and kill Ikit Claw ASAP. After that, your goal is 2 stacks with a crap ton of artillery, and keep your economy up by fighting and sacking your way to 8 Peaks. Let all your bases fall as you migrate, they don't really matter and you can't keep them defended with the upkeep cost. Nab a place near 8 Peaks, and when you siege it, send in Belegar and your ghost heros and have the artillery drop their stuff on top of them to thin out the hordes, and... that should be that.
Basically, the trap with Belegar is sticking around his start and caring about the settlements there.
A good Belegar start for me:
Turn 1: Build artillery building in Zarakzil and upgrade the barracks
Turn 2: disband the Hammerer
Turn 3: take the 2k gold
Turn 4: Start recruiting Quarellers and Grudge Throwers
Turn 5: still sitting pretty in Zufbar, continue recruiting until you have 4 Quarellers and 4 Grudgethrowers
Turn 6: demolish the artillery building and actually start the campaign
with 4 grudgethrowers you can attack any major city and win by attacking, stacking a corner and destroying the towers. Retreat and attack again next turn. With no towers, you can place your artillery close and it will hit almost everything. Army losses trigger and you win with minimal casualties.
Turn 1: Build artillery building in Zarakzil and upgrade the barracks
Turn 2: disband the Hammerer
Turn 3: take the 2k gold
Turn 4: Start recruiting Quarellers and Grudge Throwers
Turn 5: still sitting pretty in Zufbar, continue recruiting until you have 4 Quarellers and 4 Grudgethrowers
Turn 6: demolish the artillery building and actually start the campaign
with 4 grudgethrowers you can attack any major city and win by attacking, stacking a corner and destroying the towers. Retreat and attack again next turn. With no towers, you can place your artillery close and it will hit almost everything. Army losses trigger and you win with minimal casualties.
Age of reckoning changes just dropped
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Thinking im going to try out dwarves
glad to see Kislev get some frozen wrym changes even if its making it smaller and tbf they already have 2 big monsters so they don't need a third
Total War: WARHAMMER III - Hotfix 5.0.3 - Steam News
We've just rolled out Hotfix 5.0.3, bringing with it the changes to Age of Reckoning which we mentioned in our past updates, alongside a plethora of tweaks and fixes!
glad to see Kislev get some frozen wrym changes even if its making it smaller and tbf they already have 2 big monsters so they don't need a third
Age of reckoning changes just dropped
Thinking im going to try out dwarvesTotal War: WARHAMMER III - Hotfix 5.0.3 - Steam News
We've just rolled out Hotfix 5.0.3, bringing with it the changes to Age of Reckoning which we mentioned in our past updates, alongside a plethora of tweaks and fixes!
Same! Was waiting for this patch to give the em a shot.
That's a pretty substantial patch! I can finally start my dwarf campaign.Age of reckoning changes just dropped
Thinking im going to try out dwarvesTotal War: WARHAMMER III - Hotfix 5.0.3 - Steam News
We've just rolled out Hotfix 5.0.3, bringing with it the changes to Age of Reckoning which we mentioned in our past updates, alongside a plethora of tweaks and fixes!
glad to see Kislev get some frozen wrym changes even if its making it smaller and tbf they already have 2 big monsters so they don't need a third
As a freak who only plays this on Steam Deck, is there any way to see what version the Linux port of the game is on? Every patch and update usually arrives months after the Windows version so I would like a way to check on it without having to reinstall the game.
Time to start up a dwarf campaign, I guess. Will try Malakai but I also wanna take another crack at Belegar.
Wonder if they'll discount stuff for Warhammer Skulls. If Shadows of Change gets one I might get it then.
Wonder if they'll discount stuff for Warhammer Skulls. If Shadows of Change gets one I might get it then.
For skull throne i think we are getting Bugman. The thunderbarge doesn't seem to have the blue dwarf that was on the trailer.
I think SoC will probably get a sale. ToD will probably have the same price.
The game version is in the bottom left of the launcher and top right of the main menu. At least for Windows PC.
He is unique to Tamurkhan.
It "breaks" the idea that he is Nurgle LH instead he is just a powerfull Tamurkhan chieftan
I don't have the free time to reach these numbers I am close to 500hs on wh3!
Indeed.
It really helps me forget/ reset my thoughts so I can aprooach my challenges with new eyes
Got excited for a moment, though Skulls was today for some reason :D
However, I did finally finish my Belegar VH campaign! I had a few false starts, but on the third try I decided to fight my way through them. Forget abandoning my starting province; those are Dwarfholds in The Vaults ya Wazzok's! I also chose to confederate with Karak Hirn to bolster my own forces (not to mention, my income!). There was advice online (ex: Mercy the Mad) who said "don't do this, it makes it harder to confederate the other LL's". Honestly now having done it, you settle so many grudges later that the extra 15K is nothing. Maybe other Dwarfs with easier starts may reconsider, but IMO Belegar needs the help.
There was a lot of bloody back and forth with Ikit, Aranessa, Skrag, Vlad, and event da Great Green Prophet crossed the water a few times to get in on the action. It probably took 50 turns to finally get out of there, almost all of it spent running with a weakened army, an empty treasury, and a lot of manual battles to try and keep things under control. That 50% upkeep penalty is a killer! Finally I was able to begin working my way towards Karak Eight Peaks.
I had expected to find a bit of an easier time after crossing the Black Mountains, but instead I emerged into the Borderlands to find that Skarsnik and the Crooked Moon completely dominated the area, and had reduced The High King down to a single settlement... Karak Eight Peaks! He wasn't going to last long though, Thorgrim was currently under siege by no less than 3 Greenskin armies. I didn't have nearly enough grudges to confederate him via the book, but he was so desperate he was willing to bend the knee just with old fashioned diplomacy. Finally on turn 68, Belgar was able to arrive just in time to join forces to fight off the goblin hordes in an epic siege battle, emerging victorious, and finally returned to his ancestral home! What a relief to have that upkeep penalty removed!
From there our two armies combined began reclaiming all of the fallen Karaks, and pushing the Greenskins back into the Darklands. This allowed for some rapid expansion and, more importantly, mines! Iron, Gold, Gems, money started flowing in. Finally time to tech up and start getting to the real power of the Dwarf arsenal.
The new Grudge-rakers just shoot virtually any enemies to pieces. The updated Gyrocopters are just fantastic, and especially good at eliminating large targets like Trolls or artillery. I never did find much of a use for any of the new Slayer variants to be honest: I did ok with the Slayer Pirates, and they saved my bacon in quite a few earlier game battles when I couldn't even afford to tech up to get Thunderers. But other than that, I just find Slayers too squishy. The new Shield Wall stance was really good, especially in Belegar's army: with his Lord trait and the Shield Wall stance, a force of Warriors or Longbeards could march on enemy gates or formations with almost no care at all for missile fire.
But let's talk about the real centerpiece for the Dwarfs, the Thunderbarge. This thing is a beast. And it's even been nerfed by the time I got around to it. I won some epic battles with these things: two in an army is truly a force. In one battle I was vastly outnumbered, almost 5 to 1, by a couple of Greenskin stacks in the midst of a Waaagh. With over 4700 enemies, the pair of Thunderbarges alone accounted for just over 1400 kills, almost half of the bodycount that was needed to route the Greenskins. They became indispensable in Sieges as well: simple Grudge Throwers (sometimes powered up with Oathgold forged runes) would crush the enemy towers, and then a wing of Brimstone Gyrocopters could swoop in from over the walls to roast any over-eager archers. From there, the Thunderbarges could come in and blast the occupying force to smithereens.
All good things must come to an end though, and after 136 turns, 4 settles grudges, and the restoration of Karak Eight Peaks, Belgar was victorious.
I thought this was a fun campaign, although I do wish that recapturing Karak Eight Peaks provided a stronger buff to Belegar's forces: preferably via a unique building chain. Removal of the 50% upkeep penalty was an absolute requirement for the campaign but I wouldn't say it felt like it was a "reward" for such a big objective. I'm not sure what Skarsnik or Queek get for winning the race, but Belegar could use a bit of an uplift here. And the ability to restore the Underway is super cool, but in the end wasn't that useful because I found that by the time I had restored it, I had already conquered and made safe all of the lands covered by the Underway. There simply wasn't really a reason to use it to go to those other places.
After all of this effort to win, the first thing on my mind is to start a new campaign, I must be crazy ... maybe Greenskins this time :D The war will go ever on!
However, I did finally finish my Belegar VH campaign! I had a few false starts, but on the third try I decided to fight my way through them. Forget abandoning my starting province; those are Dwarfholds in The Vaults ya Wazzok's! I also chose to confederate with Karak Hirn to bolster my own forces (not to mention, my income!). There was advice online (ex: Mercy the Mad) who said "don't do this, it makes it harder to confederate the other LL's". Honestly now having done it, you settle so many grudges later that the extra 15K is nothing. Maybe other Dwarfs with easier starts may reconsider, but IMO Belegar needs the help.
There was a lot of bloody back and forth with Ikit, Aranessa, Skrag, Vlad, and event da Great Green Prophet crossed the water a few times to get in on the action. It probably took 50 turns to finally get out of there, almost all of it spent running with a weakened army, an empty treasury, and a lot of manual battles to try and keep things under control. That 50% upkeep penalty is a killer! Finally I was able to begin working my way towards Karak Eight Peaks.
I had expected to find a bit of an easier time after crossing the Black Mountains, but instead I emerged into the Borderlands to find that Skarsnik and the Crooked Moon completely dominated the area, and had reduced The High King down to a single settlement... Karak Eight Peaks! He wasn't going to last long though, Thorgrim was currently under siege by no less than 3 Greenskin armies. I didn't have nearly enough grudges to confederate him via the book, but he was so desperate he was willing to bend the knee just with old fashioned diplomacy. Finally on turn 68, Belgar was able to arrive just in time to join forces to fight off the goblin hordes in an epic siege battle, emerging victorious, and finally returned to his ancestral home! What a relief to have that upkeep penalty removed!
From there our two armies combined began reclaiming all of the fallen Karaks, and pushing the Greenskins back into the Darklands. This allowed for some rapid expansion and, more importantly, mines! Iron, Gold, Gems, money started flowing in. Finally time to tech up and start getting to the real power of the Dwarf arsenal.
The new Grudge-rakers just shoot virtually any enemies to pieces. The updated Gyrocopters are just fantastic, and especially good at eliminating large targets like Trolls or artillery. I never did find much of a use for any of the new Slayer variants to be honest: I did ok with the Slayer Pirates, and they saved my bacon in quite a few earlier game battles when I couldn't even afford to tech up to get Thunderers. But other than that, I just find Slayers too squishy. The new Shield Wall stance was really good, especially in Belegar's army: with his Lord trait and the Shield Wall stance, a force of Warriors or Longbeards could march on enemy gates or formations with almost no care at all for missile fire.
But let's talk about the real centerpiece for the Dwarfs, the Thunderbarge. This thing is a beast. And it's even been nerfed by the time I got around to it. I won some epic battles with these things: two in an army is truly a force. In one battle I was vastly outnumbered, almost 5 to 1, by a couple of Greenskin stacks in the midst of a Waaagh. With over 4700 enemies, the pair of Thunderbarges alone accounted for just over 1400 kills, almost half of the bodycount that was needed to route the Greenskins. They became indispensable in Sieges as well: simple Grudge Throwers (sometimes powered up with Oathgold forged runes) would crush the enemy towers, and then a wing of Brimstone Gyrocopters could swoop in from over the walls to roast any over-eager archers. From there, the Thunderbarges could come in and blast the occupying force to smithereens.
All good things must come to an end though, and after 136 turns, 4 settles grudges, and the restoration of Karak Eight Peaks, Belgar was victorious.
I thought this was a fun campaign, although I do wish that recapturing Karak Eight Peaks provided a stronger buff to Belegar's forces: preferably via a unique building chain. Removal of the 50% upkeep penalty was an absolute requirement for the campaign but I wouldn't say it felt like it was a "reward" for such a big objective. I'm not sure what Skarsnik or Queek get for winning the race, but Belegar could use a bit of an uplift here. And the ability to restore the Underway is super cool, but in the end wasn't that useful because I found that by the time I had restored it, I had already conquered and made safe all of the lands covered by the Underway. There simply wasn't really a reason to use it to go to those other places.
After all of this effort to win, the first thing on my mind is to start a new campaign, I must be crazy ... maybe Greenskins this time :D The war will go ever on!
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^ Nice campaign and story!
As for Slayers, I always like to have a couple of them in any army as a fast (for a Dwarf) response force.
As for Slayers, I always like to have a couple of them in any army as a fast (for a Dwarf) response force.
I love it when a game comes together organically in a way that you get some logical "goal" irrespective of the victory conditions.
It seems to play out very rarely nowadays, but taking back Ulthuan from the Dark Elves used to be a very fun one, if you were playing with Teclis/Eltharion/Imrik
It seems to play out very rarely nowadays, but taking back Ulthuan from the Dark Elves used to be a very fun one, if you were playing with Teclis/Eltharion/Imrik