You can't even order a murder of your political opponents while in office and get away with it? I thought this was murica.
Still can appeal to full circuit. That would delay another month, potentially before it goes to SC
Well... shit.
Can they refuse to hear that appeal or do they have to take it?
I heard this from npr a while back too. The SC wants an easy out and seem to give something to both sides, so they'll deny him immunity but keep him on the ballot
It would make sense, and keep the heat from the SC from taking it. Then Trump has his appeal, which he'll submit at the last possible second, hopefully a fast turnaround, and this case starts in April timeframe.
Yeah, this must sting him.
He still refers to himself as ("your favorite") president.
Yup. It will likely be the key to the US Supreme Court saying no to review.
Correct
Trump has til MONDAY to get the Supreme Court to issue a stay.
Good luck on convincing them to even review this.
Would be extraordinarily unlikely that the DC circuit would grant an en banc review based on the thorough destruction of Trump's legal argument in today's ruling.
THIS is a great quote:
"Trump's stance would collapse our system of separated powers by placing the President above the reach of all three Branches"
This is the most important point I've seen so far — and precisely why SCOTUS should refuse to hear this case outright.
In short.. YOU ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW, YOU ASSHOLE!
"Trump's stance would collapse our system of separated powers by placing the President above the reach of all three Branches"
This is the most important point I've seen so far — and precisely why SCOTUS should refuse to hear this case outright.
In short.. YOU ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW, YOU ASSHOLE!
This isn't correct.
Trump has until Monday to ask the Supreme Court to take up his case, not that the Supreme Court needs to issue a stay by Monday.
So glad this ruling came out and has thoroughly destroyed Trump's bullshit king argument.
We'll see the true reality of the SC's political gamesmanship with their actions next. If they really want to flex for Trump, then now's the time, almost nothing else really matters because he will take a big L in the interference case if it's allowed to happen.
I stand corrected on that.
But the good news is that the wheels are back in motion.
There are some POWERFUL statements buried in the text of the ruling:
View: https://x.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1754887258560192939?s=20
They've actually gone against Trump in a few things, I don't think they take this at all, or lump it with the ballot ruling, which sounds like it may come this week, especially with the appeals ruling that Trump needs to take this to the SC by Monday next week.
There's absolutely no way the SC will rule against this.
It would technically give Biden unlimited power. The Republican SC members aren't going to do that.
It would technically give Biden unlimited power. The Republican SC members aren't going to do that.
And it's not just a case of Trump saying "no u" and then taking the same case to SCOTUS, I don't think. They have to somehow point out specific points the DC appeals court got wrong. Very much feels like they aren't even going to have time to do this to any degree of quality before Chutkan can continue her work.
One thing I am curious about: let's say these trails are still ongoing and Trump actually wins the election. That would freeze the trails since he would be immune again, however he couldn't pardon himself because he is not convicted yet? Thus they would resume again after 4 years?
View: https://x.com/MattGertz/status/1754898962018910223?s=20
"...would a Trump DOJ prosecute Obama for droning an American?"
Don't threaten me with a good time, buddy.
That has to be the likelihood, as not even the Trump-appointed justices want to be dealing with this level of nonsense.
He could just have all the conservatives on the court removed. What are they gonna do about it???
So... yeah I think they will punt this.
They know that no Democratic President is likely to ever take advantage of this though. Meanwhile, almost any MAGA President would double down on it.
It's not in the party's DNA. It would be extremely advantangeous pretty much exclusively to Republicans.
I don't think it's likely to happen, but there's some naivete in regards to the "Biden can start shooting people" argument. Realistically Democrats would skate on minor shit, and Republicans would skate on treasonous shit on the regular.
While I think Trump is mostly looking at how this hurts him now, it would be terrifying for the decision to go the other way and then have another MAGA republican get in the white house (or Trump again).
