Updates on The Last Night's development

[EkStatiC]

but how can we do that if the game gets all the funding pulled and gets cancelled?? lmao

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Every investor has the right to pull their money and sink this game, the moment this is happen we can tear apart the game.

For all who say that we must give him money, relax. Reviews exists not only to tell us if the graphics are pretty or not.

I'd say take responsibility for your comments. You're more interested in having fun with a game rather than understanding the toxic message it's aiming to spread. If you want to go play a game that has no meaning and is fun, exciting go play Katamari Da....shit you can't play that either because it's got a message about waste.


If MS or every other investor pull out and the game is cancelled i will not say a word and i will not compain, it is their right.
But if gamers want to start a crusade to ban this game even before release, i will not participate andi think of it as wrong

The point? Every game has a message. Some have good messages even when they have dark narratives (Papers, Please) and some are genuinely fucking bullshit and shouldn't see the time of day (The Last Night).

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I disagree in every level with the developer but i believe that this game has the right to exist, even if it's annoy me. Are we clear?

Well, learn that the receiver of the message can alter the meaning of it, it is possible for someone to play this game about how bad feminism is and actually hate it and conclude that feminism is necessery and something good and positive.

And something more, the game has not yet release so we don't actually know the message.

 

[Orayn]

Hope it gets canned and the team finds work on new projects headed by better people.

Pardon my ignorance, but isn't it exactly the same thing? Feminists are Egalitarian and vice versa?

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No. Reactionaries are convinced that feminism has gone too far and is now about giving women special privileges and hurting men. The ones who aren't willing to admit outright that they hate women need a new word, hence "egalitarian."

 

[VectorPrime]

He might be able to. I wouldn't assume that much. All he has to do is make a gofundme or something and the alt rights will pour in.

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Best case scenario is that he raises a ton of money and mismanages it and still fails to make a game. So not only does he fail but all the rubes who gave him money do too.

 

[Deleted member 5028]

Every investor has the right to pull their money and sink this game, the moment this is happen we can tear apart the game.

For all who say that we must give him money, relax. Reviews exists not only to tell us if the graphics are pretty or not.

Well, learn that the receiver of the message can alter the meaning of it, it is possible for someone to play this game about how bad feminism is and actually hate it and conclude that feminism is necessery and something good and positive.

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You're being incredibly naive to think that'll happen. This game is for the alt-right gaters by an alt-right gater.

 

[TheZynster]

The dev's opinions are bad but can we not shit the game please, at least until we can play it?

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This isn't the case of Kingdom Deliverance where the one main creator is an asshat but his ideas weren't ingrained into the game.

This time you get a shitback who is directly influencing the game with his ideas.

You can't separate art from the artists on this one

 

[spineduke]

this is a pleasant surprise

i guess commanding a fanbase compromised mostly of "fuck these sjws" isn't enough to fund your game and keep the fires burning.

And something more, the game has not yet release so we don't actually know the message.

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you clearly have not been paying attention, they've updated their storefront description to disguise the garbage he was spouting. /damage control

 

[etta]

The game is literally based off his alt-right world view. It's morally compromised.

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How many games do you reckon you've played that were developed by people like this and that you had no idea?

I'm not going to skip this game based on this, if at some point it does something I don't agree with then I'll drop it then, not before I even start it.

 

[Silky]

How many games do you reckon you've played that were developed by people like this and that you had no idea?

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Imagine those devs keeping your shitty ass takes to yourself instead of letting them out in public, you know like you're supposed to do

 

[louisacommie]

Is he out and out saying feminism is bad? Or is he saying that radical feminism is bad?

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I dont think he is anti terf

 

[AcademicSaucer]

This game looks incredibly beautiful

 

[Zacmortar]

This isn't the case of Kingdom Deliverance where the one main creator is an asshat but his ideas weren't ingrained into the game.

This time you get a shitback who is directly influencing the game with his ideas.

You can't separate art from the artists on this one

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KCD was influenced as well with its misogyny and xenophobia. It was just more subtle and easily ignorable for people lol

 

[Deleted member 176]

How many games do you reckon you've played that were developed by people like this and that you had no idea?

I'm not going to skip this game based on this, if at some point it does something I don't agree with then I'll drop it then, not before I even start it.

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It sure was nice of him to warn us in advance and save us some money.

 

[JasoNsider]

No egalitarian is an invented phrase used by shitheads who think they're slick and are hiding their shithead nature but claiming to be egalitarians.

It's the same as calling yourself a Classical Liberal.

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Exactly this.

Also, I'm all for reform, but is there even any shred of evidence that this creator has changed their views and realized their errors?

 

[DrScruffleton]

If they did a kickstarter or something they would probably hit the goal pretty fast

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

Still the most amazing looking reveal trailer in a long time.

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You kidding me? That shit was fucking hideous. It's already bad enough every other fucking indie game has to do the "We want this to look like an 8/16 bit game but don't want to bother adhering to those systems' color and resolution restrictions" BS, but this game mixing that undercreative bullshit together with modern graphical effects is just peak awful.

 

[TaleSpun]

How many games do you reckon you've played that were developed by people like this and that you had no idea?

I'm not going to skip this game based on this, if at some point it does something I don't agree with then I'll drop it then, not before I even start it.

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Did you even read the post you responded to? He thinks feminism has "gone too far" and you play a man who's a "second-class citizen" in his dystopia game.

How many games have you played where the worldview and personal politics of the dev are that explicitly on show? It's not even subtext at that point.

 

[TheZynster]

KCD was influenced as well with its misogyny and xenophobia. It was just more subtle and easily ignorable for people lol

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I didn't play KCD, but I'm guessing it wasn't nearly as big as this. Otherwise we would have had threads galore.

I'm actually interested in this game because of the ideas. But I am a more open minded person and think the concept is rather interesting. But we all know how most people would react to something like this when playing it..........people who want to just bash the fuck out of women is basically who its aimed at.

 

[Brazil]

Too bad the alt-right is busy funding the wall to give a shit.

 

[Falconbox]

Here's hoping they get on their feet and the game is a success.

Would have loved to see a trailer at The Game Awards.

 

[chogidogs]

Honestly can't support this guy no matter how rad his game is.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Here's hoping they get on their feet and the game is a success.

Would have loved to see a trailer at The Game Awards.

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Preach brah, gaming needs more successful atni-feminists, it's just so devoid of that important intellectual market.

 

[Deleted member 1849]

I didn't play KCD, but I'm guessing it wasn't nearly as big as this. Otherwise we would have had threads galore.

I'm actually interested in this game because of the ideas. But I am a more open minded person and think the concept is rather interesting. But we all know how most people would react to something like this when playing it..........people who want to just bash the fuck out of women is basically who its aimed at.

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We had so many KCD Vavra threads pre-launch, lol.

 

[Dimple]

Most likely Raw Fury has enough of his shit and pulled the publishing deal, as for whether it's still an ID@Xbox game time will tell, but wouldn't be surprised if they stopped supporting it as well.

 

[Madison]

Oh does Mr. Tim Soret, the person who constantly likes bigoted and anti-social-science bullshit on Twitter, want my money to finish his game?

Hahahahaha

 

[TheZynster]

We had so many KCD Vavra threads pre-launch, lol.

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Jesus, did I zone out for a few months lol

 

[SnatcherHunter]

Suddenly

Phill Fish seems better now.

 

[VectorPrime]

Here's hoping they get on their feet and the game is a success.

Would have loved to see a trailer at The Game Awards.

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I can no longer believe that posts like these aren't subtle trolling.

 

[Falconbox]

If they did a kickstarter or something they would probably hit the goal pretty fast

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oh, I guarantee it.

It was a big hit at E3 for Xbox, and these "ID@Xbox" games have typically been pretty successful this generation.

I can't remember if this was coming to PC at all, but Xbox gamers certainly are excited for any good looking games on the horizon for them.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

"Oh, it's this game. It's been a while. I wonder if once again every reply will be abou-
Yep. Of course it is".

 

[Deleted member 1849]

Suddenly

Phill Fish seems better now.

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One of the reasons he quit this industry and tried to sell his company is because of all the insults he received, and then getting doxxed, after defending Zoe Quinn and denouncing gamergate.

He was very vocal, and often inappropriate, but his heart generally seemed to be in the right place.

 

[Falconbox]

I can no longer believe that posts like these aren't subtle trolling.

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How is it trolling?

Game looks beautiful and interesting and I want to play it.

 

[excelsiorlef]

"Oh, it's this game. It's been a while. I wonder if once again every reply will be abou-
Yep. Of course it is".

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Yes the direct thing the game is about will in fact come up when talking about said game.

 

[Deleted member 42]

If they did a kickstarter or something they would probably hit the goal pretty fast

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Mostly depends on the goal, I dunno if the dev has the cache to run a successful crowdfunding campaign, they're really tough

You kidding me? That shit was fucking hideous. It's already bad enough every other fucking indie game has to do the "We want this to look like an 8/16 bit game but don't want to bother adhering to those systems' color and resolution restrictions, but this game mixing that undercreative bullshit together with modern graphical effects is just peak awful.

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Not for nothing, the reveal trailer had a very strong positive reception until people found out what the game was truly about

 

[TheManWhoSoldVG]

Ah a shame about funding most likely an indie label stepped in and helped tho I could see this being an Epic Store exclusive now on lol.

Also I dont think MS played a bigger role with this game beside from console exclusive, most games from there E3 2017 presentation where indies to fill up the gaps.

 

[snausages]

Glad the game is having funding issues. I hope it never comes out and Soret gets fucked for all of his awful views and statements.

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I'm not going to argue with that sentiment but there's a lot of collateral here with the people employed on the game who didn't make those pro-GG comments.

So I hope it works out even if the guy is a shitheel and also hope that the game isn't this feminist dystopia thing he said it was in 2014.

 

[BernardoOne]

"Oh, it's this game. It's been a while. I wonder if once again every reply will be abou-
Yep. Of course it is".

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about the game? it is.

 

[Stampy]

The fact that they even had a gig at TGA in the first place shows how much Geoff doesn't give a fuck about anything. :/

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I don't get this attitude. Why should he?

 

[BernardoOne]

I can no longer believe that posts like these aren't subtle trolling.

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Subtle?
Half of FalconBox's posting history is these kinds of posts lol

 

[excelsiorlef]

about the game? it is.

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Yeah complaining that people are talking about the dev being an anti-feminist shithead when his game is literally about anti-feminism is kinda weird.

 

[VectorPrime]

I'm not going to argue with that sentiment but there's a lot of collateral here with the people employed on the game who didn't make those pro-GG comments.

So I hope it works out even if the guy is a shitheel and also hope that the game isn't this feminist dystopia thing he said it was in 2014.

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Christ I hate this argument. Even the most vile of companies will leave collateral damage if they were to close. It's unavoidable. Sorry but they'll need to find jobs elsewhere.

 

[vodalus]

You kidding me? That shit was fucking hideous. It's already bad enough every other fucking indie game has to do the "We want this to look like an 8/16 bit game but don't want to bother adhering to those systems' color and resolution restrictions, but this game mixing that undercreative bullshit together with modern graphical effects is just peak awful.

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I don't know if I agree with the first part of your statement, but the second part is correct. The game looked extremely derivative and I'm glad it is in development heaven. It looks even worse now that we have seen more of Cyberpunk.

 

[Dimple]

This?

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Anyone tell me what the tweet says? Image isn't showing up for some reason.

Also the game is still on Raw Fury's website (although it's still saying 2018 for a release date):
https://rawfury.com/portfolio/the-last-night/

 

[Gentlemen]

How is it trolling?

Game looks beautiful and interesting and I want to play it.

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Because it comes immediately after a string of posts exposing the vile worldview of the developer and how it permeates the game he's struggling to finish.

 

[Falconbox]

It looks even worse now that we have seen more of Cyberpunk

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Can you compare a 2D indie sidescroller with a AAA fps though?

 

[ThisThingIsUseful]

No egalitarian is an invented phrase used by shitheads who think they're slick and are hiding their shithead nature but claiming to be egalitarians.

It's the same as calling yourself a Classical Liberal.

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All phrases are invented. I'm not sure what you're saying there? Are you saying it was picked up by people afraid to carry the feminist label?

If not, egalitarianism strikes me more as what a feminist and progressive would think -- equal civil rights, women being as equal as men, minorities as equal as the dominating race. It crosses religious and geographical boundaries. It matches many of his beliefs of universal health care and universal basic income. By definition, I'd say a feminist is an egalitarian. There shouldn't be any shame in calling oneself either.

 

[excelsiorlef]

All phrases are invented. I'm not sure what you're saying there? Are you saying it was picked up by people afraid to carry the feminist label?

If not, egalitarianism strikes me more as what a feminist and progressive would think -- equal civil rights, women being as equal as men, minorities as equal as the dominating race. It crosses religious and geographical boundaries. It matches many of his beliefs of universal health care and universal basic income. By definition, I'd say a feminist is an egalitarian. There shouldn't be any shame in calling oneself either.

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Call yourself an egalitarian is like calling yourself a men's right activist.

It's literally just there for asshats who think they're more slick than they actually are feminism while trying to maintain some sort of credibility, aka it's like calling yourself a classical liberal so you can shit on lefties, good thing it only mostly works as a sort of in group thing and anyone with half a brain sees right through it.

 

[admiraltaftbar]

Anyone tell me what the tweet says? Image isn't showing up for some reason.

Also the game is still on Raw Fury's website (although it's still saying 2018 for a release date):
https://rawfury.com/portfolio/the-last-night/

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Soret says (and I'm paraphrasing).
"I need to make some things clear: 1 - I completely support equality & inclusiveness"

Shanon Loftis asks "2?"

 

[Fart Master]

How many games do you reckon you've played that were developed by people like this and that you had no idea?

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That's not the point

 

[Falconbox]

Because it comes immediately after a string of posts exposing the vile worldview of the developer and how it permeates the game he's struggling to finish.

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Yeah, that's stuff we've known about since pretty much the day after E3 2017.

I was simply giving my thoughts unrelated to his tweets, since I still want to play the game.

 

[Gentlemen]

All phrases are invented. I'm not sure what you're saying there? Are you saying it was picked up by people afraid to carry the feminist label?

If not, egalitarianism strikes me more as what a feminist and progressive would think -- equal civil rights, women being as equal as men, minorities as equal as the dominating race. It crosses religious and geographical boundaries. It matches many of his beliefs of universal health care and universal basic income. By definition, I'd say a feminist is an egalitarian. There shouldn't be any shame in calling oneself either.

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"Egalitarian" is a mansplaining attempt to co-opt the discussion about equality while simultaneously erasing and silencing the unique point of view women have on the topic. Simple as that.