Iranian proxies have been shooting missiles at the embassy for the last 3 weeks and there hasn't been much reaction from the USIf this was done by Iran or Iranian proxies they are playing with fire. If US service members or citizens actually die in one of these attacks things are likely going to really escalate.
Yeah but these are the first actual hits. We all saw what happened the last time Iranian proxies fucked with the US embassy.Iranian proxies have been shooting missiles at the embassy for the last 3 weeks and there hasn't been much reaction from the US
First it was zero troops injured according to very large a-brain Trump, then less than a dozen... it has since been tripled by the Pentagon to 34 with "traumatic brain injuries"... all very normal stuff.Didn't american soldiers last time got hurt too and nothing happened? I think WaPo had an article about that, don't remember seeing a thread here.
Yeah Trump and his friends first lied about it.Didn't american soldiers got hurt during Iran's attack on a base too and nothing happened? I think WaPo had an article about that, don't remember seeing a thread here. They even sent some to Germany I think for treatment.
Didn't american soldiers got hurt during Iran's attack on a base too and nothing happened? I think WaPo had an article about that, don't remember seeing a thread here. They even sent some to Germany I think for treatment.
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Pentagon disclosed on Friday that 34 U.S. service members suffered traumatic brain injuries in Iran's missile strike this month on an Iraqi air base, and although half have returned to work, the casualty total belies President Donald Trump's initial claim that no Americans were harmed. He later characterized the injuries as "not very serious."
Eight of the injured arrived in the United States on Friday from Germany, where they and nine others had been flown days after the Jan. 8 missile strike on Iraq's Ain al-Asad air base. The nine still in Germany are receiving treatment and evaluation at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center, the largest U.S. military hospital outside the continental United States.
Jonathan Hoffman, the chief Pentagon spokesman, said the eight in the U.S. will be treated at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland, or at their home bases. The exact nature of their injuries and their service and unit affiliations were not disclosed.
After the Pentagon reported on Jan. 17 that 11 service members had been evacuated from Iraq with concussion-like symptoms, Trump said, "I heard they had headaches and a couple of other things ... and I can report it is not very serious." He said he did not consider the injuries to be as severe as those suffered by troops who were hit by roadside bombs in Iraq.
Traumatic brain injury, or TBI, has become a bigger concern for the military in recent years as medical science improves its understanding of its causes and effects on brain function. It can involve varying degrees of impairment of thinking, memory, vision, hearing and other functions. The severity and duration of the injury can vary widely.
Maybe, but they already crossed Trump's "red line" and he not only did nothing, he lied to cover himself. He promised a disproportionate response if they struck any US person, then 34 soldiers got TBI's, and he lied about the number injured then claimed it was "headaches".If this was done by Iran or Iranian proxies they are playing with fire. If US service members or citizens actually die in one of these attacks things are likely going to really escalate.
Man, I think I'm about to check out from the internet today. Get some crappy chinese food, smoke some weed, and get constructively angry at the royal rumble.
Official statement is 'no deaths'
They tried to get the US to leave by asking them, then they tried protests, I think the Trump administration is playing with fire here more than anyone by insisting on keeping US troops there.If this was done by Iran or Iranian proxies they are playing with fire. If US service members or citizens actually die in one of these attacks things are likely going to really escalate.
It's too early to say. It's very possible there could be no injuries/deaths, these are not smart weapons, and there could have been warnings, or just by luck. Or there could be injuries/deaths and the full extent isn't known yet. Or injuries/deaths but they're lying because that's almost always their first reaction.
It never stopped
They tried to get the US to leave by asking them, then they tried protests, I think the Trump administration is playing with fire here more than anyone by insisting on keeping US troops there.
So you think the US forces should remain in Iraq forever?Please, they have been firing rockets for a year.
The Iraqi Parliament vote requesting u.s forces be withdrawn had large portions of the representatives refusing to vote, the government is still a caretaker government awaiting new elections that's a fucking caretaker government in the first place cause it fired on protestors for months. Portraying these rocket attacks as just retribution for the U.S staying ignores everything else about Iraq. Though I will readily admit we should stay and Trump's reasons for staying are gross and evil.
I would be shocked if it were Iran rather than one of their proxies. Surely there would be retaliation against Iran if there was a thought that it was their forces that fired these rockets.I know it's fucked up to say but cable news is covering Kobe, not this. And that might save us all.
Iran had to strike back to save face and America is too busy to notice. Maybe I'm naive but I hope this all stops now.
I would be shocked if it were Iran rather than one of their proxies. Surely there would be retaliation against Iran if there was a thought that it was their forces that fired these rockets.
This happens often in the ME tho, no?I know it's fucked up to say but cable news is covering Kobe, not this. And that might save us all.
Iran had to strike back to save face and America is too busy to notice. Maybe I'm naive but I hope this all stops now.
Iranian proxies lobbing a few rockets at the US Embassy or a base housing US troops? Yes, but usually they're all misses. Last time they got a hit and killed 1 US contractor and injured 2 soldiers Trump responded by bombing Iranian proxy targets in Iraq and Syria, to which those proxies responded by storming the US Embassy. Then Trump escalated beyond anyone's worst nightmare by having Soleimani killed to which Iran reacted by launching missiles at a base housing US troops.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't concussions categorized as TBI, and headaches a common symptom associated with concussions? I read that when reading about an NBA player's lawyer stating he suffered a traumatic brain injury in a car accident, and it was quickly clarified that he had a concussion.
Not to downplay too much, but when I first hear TBI, I think severe damage.
Yeah, blast induced neurotrauma is pretty similar to concussion, but of course, concussion is no joke.Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't concussions categorized as TBI, and headaches a common symptom associated with concussions? I read that when reading about an NBA player's lawyer stating he suffered a traumatic brain injury in a car accident, and it was quickly clarified that he had a concussion.
Not to downplay too much, but when I first hear TBI, I think severe damage.
Iranian proxies lobbing a few rockets at the US Embassy or a base housing US troops? Yes, but usually they're all misses. Last time they got a hit and killed 1 US contractor and injured 2 soldiers Trump responded by bombing Iranian proxy targets in Iraq and Syria, to which those proxies responded by storming the US Embassy. Then Trump escalated beyond anyone's worst nightmare by having Soleimani killed to which Iran reacted by launching missiles at a base housing US troops.
The soldiers were so impressed by Trump's great diplomatic reaction, it blew their minds, literally giving them traumatic brain injuries
As opposed to Saudi Arabia's tentacles? Or our own?Iran has its tentacles all over the middle east.
I'm surprised at all the support they get in the west.
As opposed to Saudi Arabia's tentacles? Or our own?
Not that I think the West should support Iran but I do feel we should at least recognize which octopuses starting gripping these countries with their tentacles first and acknowledge that, yeah, perhaps some of them would fight back and struggle.
Right now we treat Iran like we allow the police to treat people in the US, "lay down, shut up, hands behind your head, stop resisting, all this shit will stop as soon as you comply with all our demands. Maybe. If you're lucky."
With my statements I don't want it to be taken as support of Iran's government or actions, merely to state that I think they're an equal player in the region who's fears and concerns along with their own goals and desires should carry the same weight as their adversaries. In effect, for their to be any honest attempt at peace with Iran they would need to believe that the United States and the world would not always place Iran's needs and desires below that of its adversaries and they would have to trust that if they withdrew from regions they control back to their homeland that that void would not be filled immediately by its' adversaries.
They just use their own military like in Bahrain or Yemen. Further they had been funding extremist groups in the area for decades, though they don't have as direct control over them as Iran does their proxies.I don't recall Saudi Arabia having various loyal armed terrorist militias in foreign countries serving as proxy armies.
They just use their own military like in Bahrain or Yemen. Further they had been funding extremist groups in the area for decades, though they don't have as direct control over them as Iran does their proxies.
I don't think anyone has said these are preppy rebels, that's absurd. Bahrain may have had some preppy protesters during the Arab Spring but by the time you're scraping the barrel to find people willing to murder people and blow shit up you're generally going to get crazy people.What Saudi is doing in Yemen is a humanitarian catastrophe, but their presence there (and in Bahrain) is at the request of the internationally recognized local government. In Yemen they are fighting against an armed terrorist militia that is trying to overthrow the recognized yemeni goverment. (albeit severly fucking over the innocent civilians in the way)
These aren't preppy rebels trying to do good, they are almost cartoonlike terrorists. Their flag literally says "Death to America. Death to Israel. Damnation upon the Jews."
As for funding military groups, as far as I know there were a few they supported in Syria after the rebellion began, but these were also supported by the US. ISIS, alqaeda, and most terrorist groups not only consider Saudi Arabia an enemy but have carried out attacks against them.