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nature boy

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Sho_Nuff82

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At what point do we create a joint US-Russia-Brexit thread? Because we're eventually going to have to start comparing notes.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/08/electoral-law-broken-fight-for-soul-of-democracy

Because the investigation into Vote Leave is just one of a number of ongoing inquiries into potential crimes. Many of which were facilitated by new technology. By the tech platforms. By – above all – Facebook. Because – and this is the key point – this is an election that took place in darkness.

Campaigning has moved online, into the black boxes of the tech platforms, where it's unseen, unaccounted for. And we have no idea which adverts were shown to which people. How people were targeted, and what data it was based on. We don't know how much money was spent on which ads by whom or even in which country they were based. We don't know what lies were told to whom, by whom (though we know there were lies told, an Observer investigation proved that).

We know none of this. What we do know, however, is that Facebook knows. It's just not telling us.

The parliamentary inquiry into fake news has summoned Mark Zuckerberg four times to answer these and other questions and four times he has refused. Many of the answers we need are on Facebook's servers. But it's not giving us them. Damian Collins, the Tory chair of the committee, has repeatedly said that Facebook's behaviour is unacceptable and his committee has threatened a standing warrant, an order to arrest Zuckerberg the next time he steps on British soil, for contempt of parliament.

We can't hold Facebook to account, and our institutions are struggling to hold British campaigners and donors to account, but we can catalogue an ever-growing list of potential crimes and misdemeanours. Because what's become apparent is that the referendum is where dark money met dark data.

Official investigations under way so far include: overspending by Vote Leave, overspending by Leave.EU, coordination between Vote Leave and BeLeave, the source of at least £12m in donations in gifts and loans by Arron Banks's company to Leave.EU, the use of data by all campaigns including the role of Cambridge Analytica, its Canadian affiliate, AIQ and Banks's Eldon insurance company. In addition, there are also pressing and urgent questions about – but no official investigation into – the source of a donation made to the DUP.

Remember this the next time someone online argues that the left spent way more than the right on the 2016 elections or Brexit.
 

Wilsongt

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This will go a long way to not paying off any student loans because after taxes these people may have a buck fifty left.
 

Plinko

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Autodidact

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So basically Hardiman would be the new swing vote and is not that much more conservative than Kennedy and is actually to the left of Roberts.

He'd be the best deal we could get in this situation. You're not going to get better than someone more liberal than Roberts from a Republican administration.
 

Effect

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Has been since the beginning since he believes presidents should not be investigated or indicted.



So we have basically turned into Russia.



I don't understand this. You already PAID for the food. What good does throwing it away do?
What I've never understood though is if one is a white supremacist/racist, want to keep anyone non-white out of the country or at least make their lives miserable why are you ordering Japanese food or Mexican food, etc!? Shouldn't they hate that? Shouldn't they hate anyone of that background preparing food for them!?
 

Plinko

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What I've never understood though is if one is a white supremacist/racist, want to keep anyone non-white out of the country or at least make their lives miserable why are you ordering Japanese food or Mexican food, etc!? Shouldn't they hate that? Shouldn't they hate anyone of that background preparing food for them!?

I would think there is a slave mentality involved there as they are serving them.
 

Linkura

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Perhaps Stephen Miller thought the food was contaminated. Maybe he'll just eat McDonald's now like Trump.
 
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What I've never understood though is if one is a white supremacist/racist, want to keep anyone non-white out of the country or at least make their lives miserable why are you ordering Japanese food or Mexican food, etc!? Shouldn't they hate that? Shouldn't they hate anyone of that background preparing food for them!?

This is a nuanced bigot position. The fascists love Israel and Japan because they represent conservative, xenophobic ethno-states. These bastards will tell you straight up that's what they want for the US
 

ned_ballad

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Picking a conservative leaning moderate justice would be the most un-Trumpy thing he's ever done as President

It's not going to happen, I'm afraid.

Prepare for a long, drawn out battle against a crazy cult lady with no experience.
 

Suiko

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Picking a conservative leaning moderate justice would be the most un-Trumpy thing he's ever done as President

It's not going to happen, I'm afraid.

Prepare for a long, drawn out battle against a crazy cult lady with no experience.

At least we quit getting hot takes that this could be his "pivot".
 

Aaron

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So basically Hardiman would be the new swing vote and is not that much more conservative than Kennedy and is actually to the left of Roberts.

He'd be the best deal we could get in this situation. You're not going to get better than someone more liberal than Roberts from a Republican administration.
Hm... if a Democrat manages to replace Thomas it might be less apocalyptic than I feared.

Anyway, Emerson has Democrats up 49-42 in generic ballot.

https://www.emerson.edu/sites/default/files/Files/Academics/ecp-national-july2018-PR.pdf

Notably, Democrats lead 52-34 in the Midwest. I feel like that kind of margin lets them carry the House pretty easily, even if the topline number suggests a Tossup.
 

grand

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Picking a conservative leaning moderate justice would be the most un-Trumpy thing he's ever done as President

It's not going to happen, I'm afraid.

Prepare for a long, drawn out battle against a crazy cult lady with no experience.
Picking Hardiman would be Trump trying to get the easy win that no one could complain about. He wants to relive his first Supreme Court pick.
 

Linkura

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This is a nuanced bigot position. The fascists love Israel and Japan because they represent conservative, xenophobic ethno-states. These bastards will tell you straight up that's what they want for the US
Remember: Stephen Miller is ethnically Jewish.

From wiki:
Miller grew up in a liberal-leaning Jewish family in Santa Monica, California.[16][17]His mother's family immigrated to the United States in the early 1900s from Belarus escaping the anti-Jewish pogroms in the Russian Empire (1903-1906).[18][19]

Miller became a committed conservative after reading Guns, Crime, and Freedom, a book against gun control by National Rifle Association Chief Executive Officer Wayne LaPierre.[21][22][23] While attending Santa Monica High School, Miller began appearing on conservative talk radio.[21][19] In 2002, at the age of 16, Miller wrote a letter to the editor of the Santa Monica Outlook, criticizing his school's response to 9/11 in which he stated that "Osama Bin Laden would feel very welcome at Santa Monica High School."

Another reason to hate the NRA.
 

Ac30

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So basically Hardiman would be the new swing vote and is not that much more conservative than Kennedy and is actually to the left of Roberts.

He'd be the best deal we could get in this situation. You're not going to get better than someone more liberal than Roberts from a Republican administration.

Yeah, so there's basically no chance he's the nominee.
 

ned_ballad

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Picking Hardiman would be Trump trying to get the easy win that no one could complain about. He wants to relive his first Supreme Court pick.
Trump sees that he "has" the Senate, and believes he can pick anyone. He wants the youngest possible, furthest right person he can get to cement his legacy. He believes he can get that person because the Republicans control the Senate, but he'll go too far and move too fast and it'll come crashing down like it always does when he acts like that. Cult Lady probably wouldn't even make it out of committee.
 
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