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US PoliEra 2019 |OT8| WHITE HOUSE ADMITS TO QUID PRO QUO WITH UKRAINE
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All very true, just playing devil's advocate. Curious to see if there's any more there there on this particular story.
What are the chances that Trump could actually be surgically removed like a cancerous tumour?
I was under the assumption republicans controlling the senate would make a successful impeachment impossible in the end.
They've abused the law and backed Trump so far across every other terrifying thing he's done, what is different this time?
I was under the assumption republicans controlling the senate would make a successful impeachment impossible in the end.
They've abused the law and backed Trump so far across every other terrifying thing he's done, what is different this time?
you never know ... he's probably extorting little green men.
Small comfort when we end up back here in 1, 4, or 8 (at best) years.
Maybe that's enough for you, but it isn't for me. The country showed itself for what it truly is, and simply punishing Trump and patting ourselves on the back for a job well done isn't going to wipe that away.
I was thinking about this today and I think there is a small chance they'd makes the move if public sentiment drops so low that even appointing a judge becomes politically risky. At some point I think they might prefer to take their lumps with Pence, protect a small senate majority, and spend the next four years whining on TV. I think they prefer being out of power.
Time is relative when it comes to this administration, tbh.
To paraphrase an old saying, I've experienced decades in these past few weeks. What is seven hours, really?
Holy crap, my congressman, Mark Amodei (R) from Nevada, is supporting the impeachment inquiry (specifically said he didn't know how he'd vote...) But it's the first elected Republican to say so, that I know of. Link: https://thenevadaindependent.com/ar...t-it-through-the-process-and-see-what-happens
I'm trying to imagine a scenario where someone knew this miss-classification practice was regularly occurring, that it was wrong, contained damning information, but that they didn't think about disclosing it until the Ukraine whistleblower stuff.
"Oh shit, this is illegal? They've been doing this shit for years."
"Oh shit, this is illegal? They've been doing this shit for years."
If mueller investigations was a snail, this is a cheetah
this is moving so fast and I hate how there's this awfully inconvenient 2 week recess.
The important people are still gonna work on it tho right?
this is moving so fast and I hate how there's this awfully inconvenient 2 week recess.
The important people are still gonna work on it tho right?
I really hope Bill Barr recuses himself out of any and every Ukraine related thing. You know he is itching to squash this whole thing.
The committees doing the impeachment are staying in DC. Pelosi made it clear to them to keep up the momentum. Jim Himes is flying out of US (possibly to Ukraine) on impeachment inquiry related trip.
technically the 300th reply if I'm being pedantic
AND OH LAWD AM I PEDANTIC
He's fucking implicated. He'll try to not recuse though, because that's who he is.
You know ... I just realized that he was probably doing this stuff as the Mueller report was coming out. Meaning he should have been recused from that too.
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Yes.
But also to celebrate Warren and her
Warren and Sanders are similar. Only one seems to know what it'll take to win.
Seems pretty accurate.
Seems pretty accurate.
He should never have been confirmed.
But he was, and he's not going to recuse himself. Covering up this administration's malfeasance is his top priority, and the sole reason he got the job.
Yeah, but hot sauce.
The phone calls...possibly, but the entire server? No. It's not even maintained by the White House. It's literally the top secret of the top secret.
Also, wiped? Like with a rag?
I don't see why they wouldn't have. I was thinking about that earlier, why even keep a copy?
You know who told us who Donald Trump was? You know who TRIED to warn the people? You know who SAID WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN AND THEN IT DID HAPPEN?
Not even amused in the slightest.
I can see the media now trying to draw false parallels. People coming into this thread to try to argue that the two are equivalent.
I still get furious at some of these GIFs (not JIFs).
Who here in their right mind has argued this has anything remotely to do with a private email server or that the two things are related? But, would I find it hilarious if the GOP ends up having to defend deleting data off a server? Yes. Yes I would. But you're right. There are no parallels. What Trump did was illegal. Sometimes you just gotta laugh at the absurdity of the universe.
I only serve hot tea.
Yup. A bunch of shitty cowards like McMaster are about to magically find their courage as we hurtle towards the shit.
That's nice.
Anyway, I don't think the other stories will pick up steam until such time as they can be corroborated. I'm guessing the House Intelligence Committee is going to have to get those records ASAP. Schiff said on Rachel last night what we all knew--that there is nothing that is too classified for Congress to get. So, getting those call logs shouldn't be too difficult. What will be interesting is if during any of the depositions we can get anyone on record as saying they know/believe/heard that additional information was put on there that shouldn't have been. Probably the whistle blower can help on that with names that they need to speak to. This thing could crack wide open after a few hearings.
Technically, they can set the rules for impeachment in the Senate. They can have closed door deliberations that are not made public, if they vote to do that. However, I don't know if they can vote totally anonymously. There's no real secret ballot in Congress. Every other impeachment has been a public vote. You can watch Clinton's online if you want. The Constitution is pretty unclear with how impeachment has to work, allowing the Senate a lot of leeway into crafting their own rules. There's a memo from 1986 that outlines the rules that are currently in place, but they can be changed.
This is reason 9,342 we need to codify a lot of this shit into actual laws not just gentleman's agreements.
Yeah, it's a shame we didn't have it in '16, I guess, but at least 2020 has Warren.
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