Unless he loses Florida on election night, then it's over immediately.
US PoliEra 2020 |OT6| I will not be closing this thread when the second wave hits.
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If half of dems in Florida don't vote in person, then maybe not?
So that's 51% of Democrat votes that will likely get mysteriously lost or delayed long enough not to be counted
They'll be counted, no conspiracy theories needed. But some will be counted weeks after election night and when they do, Trump will scream and cry rigging. That much is for certain.
Breaking now: Twitter has restricted Don Jr's account for retweeting misinformation about coronavirus. Obviously his dad retweeted the same thing but isn't getting punished.
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I mean, it is too much to ask.
Because one party is built to govern, the other is built to sabotage. Republicans and their voters do not want a working government, just one that works for them.
Democrats want a working government, because that's normally how big tent parties work.
I mean, it is too much to ask.
Because one party is built to govern, the other is built to sabotage. Republicans and their voters do not want a working government, just one that works for them.
Democrats want a working government, because that's normally how big tent parties work.
Don Jr isn't a government official/leader. They have much more leeway to mess with his account privileges.
Why in the world would any same person wait until election day to mail back their ballot?
By law votes stamped by election day will be counted but states don't wait until election day to start.
I don't know, I plan to mail mine as soon as I fill it out. Which will be less than a minute after I open it. The thought of those people that wait until the last possible moment, sort of concerns me. Maybe that's a small percentage? Idk but every vote should count, regardless. I guarantee Trump will claim every vote counted after election day is fraudulent.
Probably not outright but some states like Florida and Arizona count their mail ballots in advance and are fast counters, so we'll be able to extrapolate based on a few states.
Depending on how late you go to sleep, I think there's a good chance we'll know who won the presidential race. The Senate, though? That might take a few days.
I plan on voting in person this year but I would hope that anyone who wants their votes counted by mail won't wait. This isn't a new issue either, typically votes mailed at the last minute during elections tend to counted late and not matter on election night.
That's what I thought too but there's that tweet going around that talks about tens of thousands of votes not counted in 2016 because they were received after election day. Is this just fearmongering?
I'm in Utah, so voting isn't a problem here because we're a safe red state. Been voting by mail since 2012 and have never waited more than a day or two after receiving a ballot. However, there will be a lot more vote by mail this year and in states that have never done it before (at least on this level). Seeing that 51% of Democrats plan to vote by mail this year is anxiety inducing. I just need to shut my brain off and hope for the best.
I don't think it's fear mongering, probably voters dropping ballots in mailboxes right before the election so they didn't get stamped in time. It should be a concern and hopefully there's a big initiative in close states to encourage folks to mail in early.
It varies from state to state. California just needs a postmark, but other states need it by.
I mentioned this a few months back and I think it's going to be a potential surprise Flip to Trump. The state, like Iowa, has a growing rural voter block. The suburbs are also incredibly shocked at the Floyd fallout and the proposal to abolish the police system. Minneapolis as a whole continues to become this weird alternative hippy liberal oasis that values Bernie or bust mentality. I also think because it's an assumed democrat state Biden overlooks it, just as Hillary did. I think the combination of all of this will see less turnout for Democrats which could flip to Trump. It's a long shot but I'm betting on it.
I'm with you on everything but the bolded. There's no way that they take the state for granted again. It may ultimately be lost but not because it gets ignored.
Yeah I think this is the only thing that still has me worried about this election
This isn't the morning dose of hopium that I was expecting.
Thankfully my town has a town hall and a drop box
Just going to skip the whole mailing step altogether
That said I realize that this whole fucking voting thing is fragmented and fucked up as hell from community to community. We need one universal federal standard that is funded and enforced in this country
No, it varies state-by-state. In quite a few states it must be received by Election Day.
And there are a number of states, including New York, that don't start counting prior to the election.
It's been a very slow walk to purple for Minnesota. While there is indeed potential there for Republicans, I'm not sure Trump is the candidate that can best take advantage of it.
ETA: And, again, it is just one poll.
I was gonna ask if that wasn't common for other places since my polling place also has a drop in mail box for mail in ballots.
Minnesota has been solidly Biden +9-11 since mid-June and only tightened slightly in the past couple of days because of two polls, one from Morning Consult showing Biden +3 (B/C on 538) and Trafalgar Group showing Biden +5 (C- on 538). Fox (A- on 538) had Biden +13 just five days ago. We need a lot more data before concluding that Minnesota would go red this cycle.
And it would be considering quite the swing since the Democrats won by at least 10 points in the major statewide races (Governor and senate seats) in 2018.
I will urge everyone I know who lives in a swing state to vote in person. Republicans have shown zero remorse for tossing thousands of ballots just this year behind issues that were beyond voters' control, and the courts agreed with them. There are no do-overs.
Well never mind then, I never thought my backwards ass state, FL, would be ahead of the curve but I guess with all the olds here they had to be.
ah, forgot about Barr today. Time to tune in....
....actually let me wait a few minutes
....actually let me wait a few minutes
It's so hard to believe that he still has a political career after so many people have come forward to say that he knew about the abuse at OSU. It's like nothing matters anymore.
MN is the Democratic Florida; it's always close, but usually falls on Dem's side
I don't agree. Minnesota follows the same trends as the other upper midwest states but is more Democratic than them. It's not always close.
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