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Thordinson

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This is a great provision but only seems to affect the broadband provision, sadly. As the "this title" is talking about Title III "The Digital Equity Act of 2021" under the Broadband Division. Should have been applied to all funds.
 

sphagnum

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Oct 25, 2017
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I pointed this out in the primary - instead of talking about Cuba or hell, even Denmark, leftists need to talk about finishing the work of FDR, JFK (since LBJ is unpopular), Obama, and now, Biden. American's are proud of being American's, just like French people are proud of being French, British people are proud of being British, Japanese people are proud of being Japanese, etc.

If anything, the recent moves by the Right when it comes to 1/6, BLM flags, etc. should've given us an opening to take back patriotism as a liberal value.

Liberals can do that, sure. "Patriotic socialism" is a resounding no from us. Someone needs to actually speak the truth and drag the window left.
 

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Oct 26, 2017
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For shame, poliera missed this??


Candidates in DPG-targeted races flipped 41 seats in 21 counties across Georgia, while Republican candidates picked up just 6
In response to these historic Democratic wins, Congresswoman Nikema Williams, Chair of the Democratic Party of Georgia, released the following statement:

"Democrats' strong showing this election cycle – from metro Atlanta to rural Georgia – is testament to the unprecedented grassroots enthusiasm our party has been building across the state for years. After flipping crucial municipal seats in 2019, voting to send a Democrat to the White House for the first time in 28 years in 2020, and flipping both U.S. Senate seats blue earlier this year, Georgia Democrats' momentum is still growing. The 2021 municipal elections show that with strong candidates, strategic organizing, and early investments, Georgia Democrats are well-positioned to continue mobilizing voters and flipping seats throughout the state in 2022 and beyond.
 

Stooge

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Trying to compare local elections to two nationalized statewide races is ignoring the fact that dems need to get better messaging and focus on the supply chain and inflation issues
 

Sky Chief

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Trying to compare local elections to two nationalized statewide races is ignoring the fact that dems need to get better messaging and focus on the supply chain and inflation issues

I really fail to see anything truly significant that Democrats can do about inflation and supply chain problems when they are truly global problems that the entire world is facing right now for very good reasons that have almost nothing to do with politics in any way. Even slashing the Trump tariffs will have a minimal impact on these problems. Acting like there is something we can do is just setting us up for massive blame and failure.

EDIT: Acting like these are things that the US Government can really influence is just buying into Republican talking points that they are using to trash a legitimately amazing economic recovery given all the COVID sabotage that they continue to sow. If a Republican was president right now they'd be saying it was the best fucking economy ever, jobs are growing at record pace, the stock market is at an all time high, and the economy is so good that companies can barely keep up with consumer demand.
 
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Anywhere in the US you go, Republicans will act and vote the same. You can reach all of them efficiently using singular media channels (Fox News or Facebook) and messaging can be standardized without any dilution (insert culture war here).

Republicans are effectively nationalized. You can run as a Republican using the same strategy in any state, for any office, and do just as well with your voters as anywhere else.

By contrast, Democrats are localized and highly divergent internally. A Democrat from the Deep South is very different from a Democrat on the West Coast, and even Democrats in those zones differ significantly based on demographics, education, etc.

You can't reach all Democrats with a singular media channel because they're so varied, their consumption habits are dispersed across the media ecosystem, and they all respond differently depending on the messaging.

You have to run a different campaign with different messaging for different constituents depending on the state/office. You can't standardize strategy or nationalize positions without damaging regional effectiveness.

Even without the US's electoral structure that heavily favors Republicans and gives them disproportionate representation, Democrats are at an enormous disadvantage in the post social media age. We have fifty customers and the Republicans have one.

I know this is from yesterday, but this is a smart post.

This is why when people complain and say "Democrats should act and message like Republicans!" it's totally off the mark. A Republican messaging strategy will not work for Democratic and Democratic leaning voters.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I know this is from yesterday, but this is a smart post.

This is why when people complain and say "Democrats should act and message like Republicans!" it's totally off the mark. A Republican messaging strategy will not work for Democratic and Democratic leaning voters.

Republican voters with Trump basically don't care about ideas. The right wing will just forgive if their leaders say things that go against what the people believe in. The left does not do that, they expect their leaders to say the right thing always.

So, Trump or Cruz or Rubio can say "tax the rich" and then pass tax cuts easily. Nobody expects any kind of nuance on the GOP side either when it comes to complex issues. And when this happens pretty much 80% of the elected GOP will follow that message.

On the Dem side, its difficult but not impossible to do that. If Biden skates out a position to increase police funding - which is actually his position 80% of the Dems are not going to parrot that. This is what Dems can learn from GOP. When you get 8/10 people saying the same thing the media reporting changes and the public mindset changes.

The Republican messaging strategy is to basically get a bunch of articles out there regardless of what their actual policy position is on cultural, social or economic issues. They also very hardly talk about specific things in their messages, it is all extremely vague. So, you have 10 Senators talking about how corporates need to be controlled or whatever even though we know it is never going to happen. This also then goes to the Republican strategists that make media appearances. They parrot the same points over and over. Remember Trump and locker room talk? Anytime that was discussed on CNN or MSNBC the Trump supporting analysts just talked about it being locker room talk.

The Dem messaging strategy is convey specific things that will be done to voters. That ties them down, in politics vague is good. And then you don't have the 80% of people sticking to that message either. Remember Hillary fainting? The Dem analysts talked about how she needs to address it immediately and release health records or do this and that. Cohesion in messaging is important.

I think there was an article just last week on how Democrats have become the party of ideas and Republicans the party of personality. Can't find it currently, it was quite an interesting read.
 

rjinaz

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Oct 25, 2017
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I know this is from yesterday, but this is a smart post.

This is why when people complain and say "Democrats should act and message like Republicans!" it's totally off the mark. A Republican messaging strategy will not work for Democratic and Democratic leaning voters.
Well no offense but whatever Democrats are doing now isn't exactly working either. They've effectively lost the messaging war and by extension culture war.
 

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God I hope Sununu doesn't run for Senator. That would be one less thing for us to worry about.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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idk why these types of people would wanna be Senators. Like, Sununu probably sucks but I doubt he has much in common with like Ted Cruz which is pretty much what you have to become to be a Republican Senator now.

Specifically, he will pretty much have to continuously vote to make the US default on its debt while Biden is in office and I don't know why you'd sell your soul to do that kind of nonsense.
 

Meauxse

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idk why these types of people would wanna be Senators. Like, Sununu probably sucks but I doubt he has much in common with like Ted Cruz which is pretty much what you have to become to be a Republican Senator now.

Specifically, he will pretty much have to continuously vote to make the US default on its debt while Biden is in office and I don't know why you'd sell your soul to do that kind of nonsense.

Because he is trying to follow in his shitty dad's footsteps. Sununus own NH politics and have for almost 50 years. The Sununus basically were the impetus of the political situation we are seeing today.

 

Chaos Legion

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God I hope Sununu doesn't run for Senator. That would be one less thing for us to worry about.
Really doubt there's a chance he doesn't run for Senate. Only hope is that by doing so it seals any dreams of higher office which may tempt him to run for Governor again.

I've already prepped for losing that seat anyway. Hopefully that's the only flip against us.
 

rickyson33

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Nov 23, 2017
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so much anger in the House over Republicans even voting for something like BIF(which 19 Senate Republicans voted for and McConnell is currently singing the praises of!)



 

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Oct 25, 2017
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Awww yes. The Senate math just got all that much easier for us. Gotta keep the current tie or expand by 1. Expanding by two seems very very difficult to believe after VA elections but I'll hope for that miracle.
 

medinaria

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Oct 30, 2017
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I'm slightly surprised but not all that surprised

his choices are basically "stay a well-liked but relatively anonymous governor of a small state" or "become one of the more moderate members of a republican senate caucus and, by extension, immediately become the hate target of trump and his fans"

for me, at least, I know what I'd pick - governor's not a bad job!
 

Stooge

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I really fail to see anything truly significant that Democrats can do about inflation and supply chain problems when they are truly global problems that the entire world is facing right now for very good reasons that have almost nothing to do with politics in any way. Even slashing the Trump tariffs will have a minimal impact on these problems. Acting like there is something we can do is just setting us up for massive blame and failure.

EDIT: Acting like these are things that the US Government can really influence is just buying into Republican talking points that they are using to trash a legitimately amazing economic recovery given all the COVID sabotage that they continue to sow. If a Republican was president right now they'd be saying it was the best fucking economy ever, jobs are growing at record pace, the stock market is at an all time high, and the economy is so good that companies can barely keep up with consumer demand.

My company is affected by the supply chain problems.

1) There are things the US government can absolutely do to help with the issue in the short run. These will be limited in effect but there are things they can do.
2) The Dems need to talk about the problem. People are fucking pissed off that they can't buy things they need and when they can they cost more. This is affecting peoples pocket books, and Biden needs to be on front of the issue trying to lead.

Sorry, we control the white house and both houses of congress - throwing your hands up and saying "these problems are bigger than the US government can handle" is a sure-fire way to get wrecked in the mid-terms.

Tell people you know this is hard.
Explain why it is happening.
Explain what you are doing in the short-term.
Propose long-term solutions to help deal with this.

The OPEC crisis destroyed Jimmy Carter - this can absolutely do the same to Biden. It doesn't matter if that was in Carters "control" or not.
 
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