Okay Facebook is, but anyone else can just sell their similar data to Chinese companies right?
If that transaction is legal then nothing. The goal of this legislation is to reduce the barriers that currently prevent a Chinese company like Tiktok from being effectively punished for illegal use of user data which do not exist for other companies based in the US or other countries which the US has normal trade and judicial relations with.Someone explain to me, what stops the new company from selling the same data it current collects to whoever?
Facebook stockNot sure why the US government is so concerned with just Tik Tok. You have companies like Tencent that completely own or own a significant portion of major videogame companies like Riot, Supercell and Epic games and no one really seems to care about that.
This law will give the government the power to regulate other Chinese companies if needed, but thus far there have been few major concerns about other companies from the privacy or security perspective that this law is focused on. If Tencent were found to be abusing their American customers' data as Tiktok has then things would be different. Tencent has operated with a very hands-off management approach for most of its foreign subsidiaries which is unlike ByteDance's fairly heavy-handed approach towards TikTok.Not sure why the US government is so concerned with just Tik Tok. You have companies like Tencent that completely own or own a significant portion of major videogame companies like Riot, Supercell and Epic games and no one really seems to care about that.
Not sure why the US government is so concerned with just Tik Tok. You have companies like Tencent that completely own or own a significant portion of major videogame companies like Riot, Supercell and Epic games and no one really seems to care about that.
Is China putting you on lists and spying on your political activity, wiretapping you, getting you arrested and putting you in prison without due cause?
No, you see, not wanting your data to end up in the hands of the Chinese government, which is notorious for its tracking of people (even beyond Chinese borders), censorship, making people disappear into 'reeducation camps' and ofcourse let's not forget genocide, is xenophobic.CCP knows all about banning apps from other countries, so I'm sure they'll be fine with this. Also fuck the CCP and all of its defense force.
Right? China knows I like thirst traps and comedy shows. They don't need an app for that knowledge. They can track your location, but they can with pretty much any app. There's a ton of apps that have some link to a Chinese company.I've yet to hear a good reason why China knowing I'm a nerd who likes science and puppies is bad. Oh sure I feel sooooo much safer with zuck and musk. I'm not even saying that to be pissy. If someone can give me a real explanation why I shouldn't let China have my algorithm data I'm open to hearing it. I've just never gotten a real reason when I ask beyond China bad.
I'm sure this has nothing to do with meta losing social media ground and their stock dropping. Us gov gotta save Instagram reels.
I don't think a single person in this thread has claimed that the ccp is good or has good intentions with user data, the problem is that this action, without an attempt to curtail data exploitation by any tech enterprise does not actually solve the problem and amounts to security theater.No, you see, not wanting your data to end up in the hands of the Chinese government, which is notorious for its tracking of people (even beyond Chinese borders), censorship, making people disappear into 'reeducation camps' and ofcourse let's not forget genocide, is xenophobic.
Yeah I've seen those stupid posts. Just utterly clueless.No, you see, not wanting your data to end up in the hands of the Chinese government, which is notorious for its tracking of people (even beyond Chinese borders), censorship, making people disappear into 'reeducation camps' and ofcourse let's not forget genocide, is xenophobic.
No, you see, not wanting your data to end up in the hands of the Chinese government, which is notorious for its tracking of people (even beyond Chinese borders), censorship, making people disappear into 'reeducation camps' and ofcourse let's not forget genocide, is xenophobic.
So why are the EU and European national governments also banning TikTok for all its government workers? Is that also because they want to protect Meta?So instead China just buys all the same information from brokers perfectly legally, no one is protected, this would do nothing to change any of that, except american companies get compensated for spying on us. That's why it's xenophobic and not about our data rights.
I didn't think that of all the takes defending removing TikTok, I would see "Waah cancel culture."The one thing I find really funny about this whole thing is, if Tik Tok was owned by some really vile shithead, like Elon or Zuck lol--Let's say for arguments sake, JK Rowling was the CEO, a lot of people here defending it would swear off the app forever and you know it lol.
We cancel and boycott people and companies here for less than the horrors the CCP has done.
p.s. I'm being only half serious so don't reply to if you wanna argue, I don't care lol
So why are the EU and European national governments also banning TikTok for all its government workers? Is that also because they want to protect Meta?
That's not where I'm coming from at all. Jesus man, this place is so unfunI didn't think that of all the takes defending removing TikTok, I would see "Waah cancel culture."
Big "Yet you participate in society" energy coming out of this post.
Should've never been cut in the first place. I'll happily take the standalone Vine heir-apparent over TikTok every day.The time has come.
Begin the dark necromantic rituals to raise Vine from its grave.
You literally campaigned to your friends and family to get off an app?The sooner they ban it the better. Already got everyone I know off it. Should have never been allowed in the first place.
I hope this is a joke post. I don't have to campaign to anyone. I tell them and they do it. Not sure where you got Fox News out of basic internet security.You literally campaigned to your friends and family to get off an app?
Man some of these posts read like they're straight outta Fox News. That's actually wild to me that this app puts this much fear into some people over some data.
The one thing I find really funny about this whole thing is, if Tik Tok was owned by some really vile shithead, like Elon or Zuck lol--Let's say for arguments sake, JK Rowling was the CEO, a lot of people here defending it would swear off the app forever and you know it lol.
We cancel and boycott people and companies here for less than the horrors the CCP has done.
p.s. I'm being only half serious so don't reply to if you wanna argue, I don't care lol
The fact that none of the politicians up in arms about Tiktok are even proposing this gives the whole game away.We need to be pushing for legislation to get a fundamental bill of data rights.
It's wild to hear stuff like this when we see the FBI getting turned down by Apple when they ask for info on users. The both siding US vs China is especially crazy when you consider that the CCP has golden shares in companies like ByteDance and by law they're all required to give the CCP access to all their data.
If you think the government doesn't get what they want when they want from Apple you're falling for their privacy marketing bs.It's wild to hear stuff like this when we see the FBI getting turned down by Apple when they ask for info on users. The both siding US vs China is especially crazy when you consider that the CCP has golden shares in companies like ByteDance and by law they're all required to give the CCP access to all their data.
Privacy marketing BS is the FBI complaining in court and then having to find a third party to hack into a phone because Apple won't give them access?If you think the government doesn't get what they want when they want from Apple you're falling for their privacy marketing bs.
It's wild to hear stuff like this when we see the FBI getting turned down by Apple when they ask for info on users. The both siding US vs China is especially crazy when you consider that the CCP has golden shares in companies like ByteDance and by law they're all required to give the CCP access to all their data.
It's wild to hear stuff like this when we see the FBI getting turned down by Apple when they ask for info on users. The both siding US vs China is especially crazy when you consider that the CCP has golden shares in companies like ByteDance and by law they're all required to give the CCP access to all their data.
Is Apple the US government? Where in that article does it disprove anything I said?Apple accused of ‘systematic violations’ of user privacy
Apple is facing another class action lawsuit over its practice of allegedly collecting and sending analytics data from iPhone users,...9to5mac.com
Yeah that was a show they put on to promote how good their handling of users privacy is.
It's not a direct thing, but their privacy protection is really pathetic, and if you think that the US government isn't buying/using the information gained from that... well, I don't know what to say.Is Apple the US government? Where in that article does it disprove anything I said?
Nobody's data belongs to anyone anyway, is the idea I think. Who cares if we have three watchers instead of two?Is Apple the US government? Where in that article does it disprove anything I said?
January 6th 2.0
The problem isn't what the app collects, it's what happens to the data after it's been collected. ByteDance employees in China can have been caught using the individual user data of an American journalist as part of an internal leak investigation. If TikTok was based in the US the company and its employees could potentially face charges for that, but while they are based in China they are shielded from a lot of legal liability. The purpose of this bill is to simply ensure that the company is just as responsible for what it does with its user data as everyone else is.From what I read it is comparable to other such apps, except on Android where it will access as much as it can if you don't set your permissions up right. To ban it entirely instead seems much? I don't understand the more casual dislike of it. Of all the things "the youth" has to contend with, Tiktok is among the least of our and their worries.
The problem isn't what the app collects, it's what happens to the data after it's been collected. ByteDance employees in China can have been caught using the individual user data of an American journalist as part of an internal leak investigation. If TikTok was based in the US the company and its employees could potentially face charges for that, but while they are based in China they are shielded from a lot of legal liability. The purpose of this bill is to simply ensure that the company is just as responsible for what it does with its user data as everyone else is.