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Variety Rumor: Disney Considering Reinstating James Gunn
- Thread starter ManaByte
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That's true. However, sometimes it's not about the money but the principle. I think he should take the job again and then never work for Disney again.
That's how desperate they are. This is the narrative they are pushing.
He would, but man it would be great to take that W away from Cernovich. I dont even give a shit about GotG, but fuck that guy
I understand where you're coming from, but handing Cernovich and the Alt-Right a big fucking "L" is absolutely important.
Fuck that. You must be ok worth Alt Right fuckwads pulling whataboutism to harm the careers of genuinely good people. If thats the case FOH
I need it more!
Thank you for your support.
The movie is about Mantis writing her name.
Could we maybe stop sharing random hearsay without checking at all? Please? At least Holland absolutely does follow him and I need some sources showing that the others actually unfollowed him, today. Like, even if this is true: Check your sources, guys.
Would he even want to come back?
His reputation is permanently damaged because some suit at Disney reacted without thinking things out.
He could very well just give them the finger if they try play nice now.
Plus if this trash fire pushes GOTG3 out and they have to fill that gap in the release calendar with something new I wouldnt mind.
His reputation is permanently damaged because some suit at Disney reacted without thinking things out.
He could very well just give them the finger if they try play nice now.
Plus if this trash fire pushes GOTG3 out and they have to fill that gap in the release calendar with something new I wouldnt mind.
The entire main cast sent an open letter saying how much they love him, and hundreds of thousands of people put their name down on the internet saying they want him back.
I like the people I work with too. But if management calls me a Peado and fires me and then tried to rehire me a week later I aint going back.
He would likely get low eight figures for GOTG3 if he got points
Or re-hire the person best equipped for the job who was fired in murky circumstances without regard for contextualisation.
I hope you're not in a management position if you have the attitude of hiring 'whoever needs it' rather than suitability and best filling the position.
What Disney called him a Pedo? My god, that is terrible, he should sue them.
I don't think Disney every said that. But a lot of the people calling for his firing were directly calling Gunn a Pedo before and after the firing.
I don't know why so many are concerned with what the alt-right will think about all this. These fuckers will claim victory no matter what happens. If Gunn is fired, the alt-right can cheer about "getting their scalp"; if Gunn isn't fired, the alt-right can cheer about exposing Disney as hypocrites and enablers; if Gunn is fired and rehired the alt-right can cheer about both. There's no scenario where they think that they lost, so why bother caring at all?
This. The Alt-Right is incable of admitting defeat on anything, they'll just twist it into something that suits their agenda.
How reliable is variety on the rumor front?
Also the argument of the alt right will twist it as their win no matter what is kinda dumb. If all outcomes are the same in that regard I will choose the outcome where a director the tried to get removed because he constantly upset them on twitter is reinstated and where he can continue to upset them on twitter.
Alt right people get easily mad. That's why they're on the crusade on this shit.
Also the argument of the alt right will twist it as their win no matter what is kinda dumb. If all outcomes are the same in that regard I will choose the outcome where a director the tried to get removed because he constantly upset them on twitter is reinstated and where he can continue to upset them on twitter.
Alt right people get easily mad. That's why they're on the crusade on this shit.
What? He can always upset them on twitter, if he's a director, or not. Realizing and knowing that the Alt-Right will twist EVERYTHING in their favour (and they have, forever) has nothing to do with how mad they are or with what's an actual win or isn't. It's just how they operate and always have been operating.
It does, because it's going to be a reminder how they didn't win and how he is still in place mocking them.
They can twist reality all they want but having to stare down the facts is what makes them asspained as fuck.
Like wasn't this whole thing in part roseanne motivated after the right seeing that? I'm sure they relished in the perceived "hypocrisy or censorship" or whatever they twisted it to, but that shit made them maaaaaad as fuck.
They don't care if they didn't win. That's what I've been saying. Admitting that they'll spin *everything* as a win for them has nothing to do with "us" admitting defeat or "letting them win", because it doesn't affect "our" reality.
It just means that they'll never admit ANY defeat. And they don't care for facts.
remember everyone, redemption doesn't exist in the real world
if you're a bad person, you'll stay that way forever
similarly, rehabilitation for criminals is a fool's errand, let's instate the death penalty across the board
if you're a bad person, you'll stay that way forever
similarly, rehabilitation for criminals is a fool's errand, let's instate the death penalty across the board
Lol that's wrong though. They do care if they win. They are super upset every time they don't even if they do like to pretend they're not.
It fucking kills them inside that popular media has become left leaning, that's why there is so much outrage at things like Star Wars EP8, so much upset when Battlefield includes female representation, etc.
The right likes to levy the snowflake moniker at the left but the really fun irony is that it's the right that are the biggest snowflakes. Because the moment you force a reality on them they cannot escape (when they're in a situation where the numbers are clearly against them, having to content with how the public sees them, etc) that's where the upset becomes REAL big.
Also fun fact you call them Nazis often times they get so insanely triggered oh boy, going on all the funniest tirades about how they're actually not nazis and how you please make sure to differentiate between racists fucks and nazis and actually just pls call them the right.
This firing kind of makes it near impossible to produce a Volume 3 without there being a huge black-cloud over the film. Its clear to everyone that Disney have been played by the alt-right who essentially manufactured outrage over a bunch of idiotic tweets that Gunn apologised for many years ago. The irony of the situation is that the individuals who led the outrage are supporters of a man who has openly boasted about sexually assaulting women in reality. Disney should just rehire him asap to limit the damage that procrastinating any more will do. Its absolutely baffling to me that this situation hasn't been rectified.
Industry trades like Variety, THR, Deadline, The Wrap are all pretty reliable.
As badly I want him to direct GotG3, I believe he should instead sue Disney over this entire thing. Their firing him directly affected the public outlook of him and surely affected other projects of his, even if things as simple as appearing at conventions. The statement that Disney made on him was ridiculous and them agreeing to bring him back on, simply because of public outcry (if they are even seriously considering to do so in the first place) is even more of a bad look on the company. They have no moral compass, they just go whichever way the wind blows apparently.
That said, I think he will go back if offered. I know the series means a lot to him.
I would not blame him for not accepting though, and actually think it would serve Disney right by losing him if that ended up being the case also.
I think what will actually happen is that they will remain silent, time will go on, they will eventually name another director, and they will attempt to pretend none of this ever happened.
That said, I think he will go back if offered. I know the series means a lot to him.
I would not blame him for not accepting though, and actually think it would serve Disney right by losing him if that ended up being the case also.
I think what will actually happen is that they will remain silent, time will go on, they will eventually name another director, and they will attempt to pretend none of this ever happened.
This isn't as clever as you think it is. You're cherry picking a few posters and specific discussion on a few people/incidents.
Rehabilitation has to occur after punishment and owning up to consequences is part of turning from a bad to a good person.
BTW, this is just in general and largely directed toward the criminal justice system. I don't care about Gunn or GOTG, Disney has turned me off for good and this twitter back and forth is really stupid.
Other than the fact Disney is within their right to fire him (and what was so ridiculous about their statement?), he also put out a public statement of his own saying he accepts the decision, which would kinda undermine a case against them anyway.
Everyone and their mother in the industry understands the context in which James Gunn was fired by Disney. Most people outside nerd culture don't even know about this. Furthermore, the old tweets aren't anything people that knew of Gunn didn't know about before.
Gunn's reputation is, and will be, fine.
I have no idea if you're intentionally missing my point, if I'm shit at explaing my point, or if we're just hitting language barriers here.
To their outside narrative, it does not matter if they lose because they will sell it as a win.
That's literally all I'm saying, and that's how they've been operating forever now. There is no losing in their public image, no matter how angry it makes them behind closed doors.
I've been butting heads with the Alt-Right, Neo Nazis and whatever else we used to call them for over twenty years now, believe me, I know what makes them angry. But I also know how little our wins matter to the narratives they sell their followers and the public. It's allll propaganda. ;)
Edit: Changed capslocked words to bolded words because they were being misunderstood as an attack.
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? Maybe you need to read then. In my very first post you replied to my statement basically was if the outside narrative doesn't matter and all outcomes are the same on that front, then I choose the outcome that will basically make the alt right the most upset. So I don't know why you're explaining this to me now.
The reason why I called the argument dumb is because making choices on minimizing/maximizing on what the alt right outside narrative would be is a fool's errand.
We should never ever take that garbage into consideration when it comes to the actual choices.
Again, I said nothing about choices. That's entirely your narrative. I only talked about their propaganda machine. So please don't tell me to read when you're adding a wholly different narrative to my statements.
This is what I originally said. It had nothing to do with "might as well not try" like you're spinning it.
