He could end up in prisonI'm trying to imagine what kind of character arc begins with sexually assaulting women and how that could end up literally anywhere good
"thanks to my friends I learned it was wrong to sexually assault people! go team!"
He could end up in prisonI'm trying to imagine what kind of character arc begins with sexually assaulting women and how that could end up literally anywhere good
"thanks to my friends I learned it was wrong to sexually assault people! go team!"
As has been said, this is a strong incident in this game (and a lowlight,) but it's not an isolated incident in the game. It's a recurring theme and issue. With a lot of things, for example the trans character in the game, the localization team did a pretty good job massaging the text - but they didn't remove anything, for better and in this case worse.
Working in this industry, I know a couple of teams from different Japanese studios that made a game and were basically told by marketing and higher ups that they had to go back into their games and edit things to be more demeaning/more sexualized towards underage characters/grosser overall. One example, which I can't specify because it was from within the last 5 years, had some of the sexuality and grossness removed for the West and while people complained about "censorship," the person I knew on the original development team said the team felt relief at being able to ship what they actually wanted to outside of Japan.
Why do Japanese higher ups and marketing feel these things are necessary for a domestic market? I don't have the answer beyond a generic "culture(?)" answer. It's gross, but hope my insight is worth something.
Games don't just pop out of the ether. They chose to create this scene, they thought it was worth putting in there.
This isn't a "separate fiction from reality" problem. And it doesn't matter if this is one scene or one of two dozen. Someone along that production chain thought this was worthwhile to put in there, and played it off as a fucking joke.
These attitudes ain't a light fantasy - this is shit real people deal with, and this game just chooses to continue to normalize it. Fuck that.
As has been said, this is a strong incident in this game (and a lowlight,) but it's not an isolated incident in the game. It's a recurring theme and issue. With a lot of things, for example the trans character in the game, the localization team did a pretty good job massaging the text - but they didn't remove anything, for better and in this case worse.
Working in this industry, I know a couple of teams from different Japanese studios that made a game and were basically told by marketing and higher ups that they had to go back into their games and edit things to be more demeaning/more sexualized towards underage characters/grosser overall. One example, which I can't specify because it was from within the last 5 years, had some of the sexuality and grossness removed for the West and while people complained about "censorship," the person I knew on the original development team said the team felt relief at being able to ship what they actually wanted to outside of Japan.
Why do Japanese higher ups and marketing feel these things are necessary for a domestic market? I don't have the answer beyond a generic "culture(?)" answer. It's gross, but hope my insight is worth something.
I look out my window, I'm not seeing a warzone. I don't need to snap four necks on my way to my favorite lunch place, or do any gruesome stab finishers to save my own life.They also chose to depict violence, death, explosions, killing, shooting, these are things people also deal with on a daily basis. And video games are rifled with them. "This is shit real people deal with, and this game chooses to normalize it." No one has addressed the issue that we know that violence in video games does not normalize violence we say it over and over, so why does sexual assault in video games normalize sexual assault?
My only point is perspective. Real women suffer from sexual assault on a daily basis. This is of course an issue that absolutely needs to improve in our society. If we use this scene to discuss it, then that is fantastic. It should be constantly addressed.
I do think it matters whether its one scene or 12 scenes. One throw away anime trope is different than 12 scenes of depictions of sexual assault.
Id rather they not put the scene in there. Its not my thing. But just one meh, scene, I can get over. Others, they can't and thats fine. Everyone gets to choose what's important and what isn't to them.
It is my understanding that this is not pervasive throughout the whole game.
Have you even read past the thread's title?This scene sets the tone for the rest of Valkyria Chronicles 4's campaign. Although the game has a diverse cast of male and female characters with unique personalities, the women on either side of the war are degraded, sexually harassed, and mistreated.For women in this game, a respectful experience is impossible. When they're not being groped by their squad mates, the camera frames them at angles that accentuate their sexual value over their value to the squad. Whenever a character speaks positively of a women's contribution, it's condescending in tone. "At least she's good for something." A women's ability is never given the same level of treatment their technical skills would grant them as a man. At multiple points within the game's script, a woman is not even considered a person – they are merely a possession. After all, "A gentleman shouldn't keep his ladies waiting."
Even worse, the perpetrators of these sexist acts face no punishment. Many times, these moments of degradation occur openly and without shame. No one in the squad is surprised by Raz's derogatory comments towards women when they happen, and often they're allowed to pass without incident.
Upon arriving at the base for the first time, the men stare at a female navy officer while stating their desire to "swab her deck". The response to this is a resigned sigh. There's no comment on the fact these sexual advances may be unwanted.
I do not think much about it because it gives me a will to punch the person who says hahahaha"I don't care, I play video game to escape the real world." ¬_¬;
Even considering the actions portrayed in this game, the scariest part of this thread is the blatant censorship of any account that puts forth any sentiment that doesn't completely agree with the OP, even if they don't promote sexism.
I understand that this may be a private organization but it also holds itself out as a place of discussion. You walk a dangerous path.
Let me just put these here as food for thought.
Books won't stay banned. They won't burn. Ideas won't go to jail. In the long run of history, the censor and the inquisitor have always lost. The only weapon against bad ideas is better ideas.
Alfred Whitney Griswold
All censorships exist to prevent anyone from challenging current conceptions and existing institutions. All progress is initiated by challenging current conceptions, and executed by supplanting existing institutions. Consequently the first condition of progress is the removal of censorship.
George Bernard Shaw
Censorship is the child of fear and the father of ignorance.
Laurie Halse Anderson
Thought that is silenced is always rebellious. Majorities, of course, are often mistaken. This is why the silencing of minorities is necessarily dangerous. Criticism and dissent are the indispensable antidote to major delusions.
Alan Barth
Without free speech no search for truth is possible... no discovery of truth is useful... Better a thousandfold abuse of free speech than denial of free speech. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race.
Charles Bradlaugh
"Censorship reflects society's lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime."
–Potter Stewart
I detest sexual harassment. Women should certainly be treated better than they are in society. However, be aware that by walking this censorship path you are only creating the very thing you intend to destroy. Those voices will go elsewhere where people think the same way and they will be ever ingrained further into their way of thinking rather than being challenged and having to engage with differing views. It is especially stupid when it is a few mod's doing the censoring since it imposes such a limited scope of ideas upon this discussion.
I'm sure I will myself be banned for pointing this out.
The fuck are you talking about? The article makes that plenty clear.
I look out my window, I'm not seeing a warzone. I don't need to snap four necks on my way to my favorite lunch place, or do any gruesome stab finishers to save my own life.
Sexual harassment permeates every facet of our culture. And this game (and media such as this) normalizes it by treating it as a fun joke.
Why the fuck should I care about what any of these people think? Dropping a bunch of worthless quotes out of the context they were said means absolutely nothing.Even considering the actions portrayed in this game, the scariest part of this thread is the blatant censorship of any account that puts forth any sentiment that doesn't completely agree with the OP, even if they don't promote sexism.
I understand that this may be a private organization but it also holds itself out as a place of discussion. You walk a dangerous path.
Let me just put these here as food for thought.
Books won't stay banned. They won't burn. Ideas won't go to jail. In the long run of history, the censor and the inquisitor have always lost. The only weapon against bad ideas is better ideas.
Alfred Whitney Griswold
All censorships exist to prevent anyone from challenging current conceptions and existing institutions. All progress is initiated by challenging current conceptions, and executed by supplanting existing institutions. Consequently the first condition of progress is the removal of censorship.
George Bernard Shaw
Censorship is the child of fear and the father of ignorance.
Laurie Halse Anderson
Thought that is silenced is always rebellious. Majorities, of course, are often mistaken. This is why the silencing of minorities is necessarily dangerous. Criticism and dissent are the indispensable antidote to major delusions.
Alan Barth
Without free speech no search for truth is possible... no discovery of truth is useful... Better a thousandfold abuse of free speech than denial of free speech. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race.
Charles Bradlaugh
"Censorship reflects society's lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime."
–Potter Stewart
I detest sexual harassment. Women should certainly be treated better than they are in society. However, be aware that by walking this censorship path you are only creating the very thing you intend to destroy. Those voices will go elsewhere where people think the same way and they will be ever ingrained further into their way of thinking rather than being challenged and having to engage with differing views. It is especially stupid when it is a few mod's doing the censoring since it imposes such a limited scope of ideas upon this discussion.
I'm sure I will myself be banned for pointing this out.
Even considering the actions portrayed in this game, the scariest part of this thread is the blatant censorship of any account that puts forth any sentiment that doesn't completely agree with the OP, even if they don't promote sexism.
I understand that this may be a private organization but it also holds itself out as a place of discussion. You walk a dangerous path.
Let me just put these here as food for thought.
Books won't stay banned. They won't burn. Ideas won't go to jail. In the long run of history, the censor and the inquisitor have always lost. The only weapon against bad ideas is better ideas.
Alfred Whitney Griswold
All censorships exist to prevent anyone from challenging current conceptions and existing institutions. All progress is initiated by challenging current conceptions, and executed by supplanting existing institutions. Consequently the first condition of progress is the removal of censorship.
George Bernard Shaw
Censorship is the child of fear and the father of ignorance.
Laurie Halse Anderson
Thought that is silenced is always rebellious. Majorities, of course, are often mistaken. This is why the silencing of minorities is necessarily dangerous. Criticism and dissent are the indispensable antidote to major delusions.
Alan Barth
Without free speech no search for truth is possible... no discovery of truth is useful... Better a thousandfold abuse of free speech than denial of free speech. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race.
Charles Bradlaugh
"Censorship reflects society's lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime."
–Potter Stewart
I detest sexual harassment. Women should certainly be treated better than they are in society. However, be aware that by walking this censorship path you are only creating the very thing you intend to destroy. Those voices will go elsewhere where people think the same way and they will be ever ingrained further into their way of thinking rather than being challenged and having to engage with differing views. It is especially stupid when it is a few mod's doing the censoring since it imposes such a limited scope of ideas upon this discussion.
I'm sure I will myself be banned for pointing this out.
It is my understanding that this is not pervasive throughout the whole game. This would be a very different discussion if it were (and maybe it is). This would be a very different piece of entertainment if it were.
To me, its an individual choice. I think all this is cringey as fuck and have NEVER liked the anime tropes like this. However, I can also separate fiction from reality and can look at the whole game and decide as a whole of whether its worthy of time and money.
I hate this. I loved VC1 for, among its many other merits, avoiding all the shonen/ "dumb anime tropes," yet this game brings them all back with swimsuit DLCs and the stuff mentioned in this article. Just...why did you have to do this, SEGA? Why? And why is this still a thing in Japan? I know they've always been like this, but...how is this still "the norm" over there?
Not liking something, not wanting to buy or support something, and disagreeing with other people is not censorship. Nor is banning people who don't read OP, constantly whine about people being angry about sexual assault, and can't follow forum rules.
Even considering the actions portrayed in this game, the scariest part of this thread is the blatant censorship of any account that puts forth any sentiment that doesn't completely agree with the OP, even if they don't promote sexism.
I understand that this may be a private organization but it also holds itself out as a place of discussion. You walk a dangerous path.
Let me just put these here as food for thought.
(Pretentious quotes omitted)
I detest sexual harassment. Women should certainly be treated better than they are in society. However, be aware that by walking this censorship path you are only creating the very thing you intend to destroy. Those voices will go elsewhere where people think the same way and they will be ever ingrained further into their way of thinking rather than being challenged and having to engage with differing views. It is especially stupid when it is a few mod's doing the censoring since it imposes such a limited scope of ideas upon this discussion.
I'm sure I will myself be banned for pointing this out.
I've been thinking about those paragraphs you have quoted for a while. It is clear that the writer of the article has made some generalizations and sweeping statements that would extend to more of the game, but they are mostly left as stated conclusions or implications and not examined at all. Which is why I am quite curious about whether someone else wants to confirm and elaborate on them or, on the contrary, dismiss them as overstated.
As has been said, this is a strong incident in this game (and a lowlight,) but it's not an isolated incident in the game. It's a recurring theme and issue. With a lot of things, for example the trans character in the game, the localization team did a pretty good job massaging the text - but they didn't remove anything, for better and in this case worse.
Hard to take the argument "the game is actually condemning that sort of behavior" seriously since the game has a accidental upskirt scene not 5 minutes after as well as a nude hot springs and fanservice beach scene.
Like the game is going "yeah that perverted creep got what he deserved" and then proceeding to oogle women throughout the rest of the story.
Things get real bad with Crimeria later on. This combined with the quality of writing got me to put down the game before completing it, despite the gameplay being better than the last two games.
What the fuck is this post even. Anytime someone catches a warning or ban, their post is flagged with red text explaining the decision to take action. They broke specific site rules, established when they signed up. It's pretty fucking simple.Even considering the actions portrayed in this game, the scariest part of this thread is the blatant censorship of any account that puts forth any sentiment that doesn't completely agree with the OP, even if they don't promote sexism.
I understand that this may be a private organization but it also holds itself out as a place of discussion. You walk a dangerous path.
Let me just put these here as food for thought.
Books won't stay banned. They won't burn. Ideas won't go to jail. In the long run of history, the censor and the inquisitor have always lost. The only weapon against bad ideas is better ideas.
Alfred Whitney Griswold
All censorships exist to prevent anyone from challenging current conceptions and existing institutions. All progress is initiated by challenging current conceptions, and executed by supplanting existing institutions. Consequently the first condition of progress is the removal of censorship.
George Bernard Shaw
Censorship is the child of fear and the father of ignorance.
Laurie Halse Anderson
Thought that is silenced is always rebellious. Majorities, of course, are often mistaken. This is why the silencing of minorities is necessarily dangerous. Criticism and dissent are the indispensable antidote to major delusions.
Alan Barth
Without free speech no search for truth is possible... no discovery of truth is useful... Better a thousandfold abuse of free speech than denial of free speech. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race.
Charles Bradlaugh
"Censorship reflects society's lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime."
–Potter Stewart
I detest sexual harassment. Women should certainly be treated better than they are in society. However, be aware that by walking this censorship path you are only creating the very thing you intend to destroy. Those voices will go elsewhere where people think the same way and they will be ever ingrained further into their way of thinking rather than being challenged and having to engage with differing views. It is especially stupid when it is a few mod's doing the censoring since it imposes such a limited scope of ideas upon this discussion.
I'm sure I will myself be banned for pointing this out.
Damn bruh that was a whole ass grab, I don't usually refrain from buying games I'm remotely interested in due to content, but can anyone let me know if the dude really gets redeemed somehow?
What the fuck is this post even. Anytime someone catches a warning or ban, their post is flagged with red text explaining the decision to take action. They broke specific site rules, established when they signed up. It's pretty fucking simple.
You're acting like people are shouting in the middle of Times Square and being dragged off by police and thrown in jail. There are plenty of other platforms to go which are more lenient toward accepting said behaviors and viewpoints. Banned users are more than welcome to go elsewhere to discuss "both sides"ing progressive values.
This site makes the rules that must be adhered to, and if they're broken, they're well within their rights to action accounts. Users agree to those conditions before they sign up.
Well shit, guess ill be fine with that wiki knowledge then, thanks.I'll put it in spoiler tags just in case anyone is sensitive to this, but I'm not revealing plot info:
No, Raz doesn't get redeemed per se. He comes to people's aid and individual characters tolerate him more, but in terms of an actual redemption or behavioral change, not really. Read: if this stuff is almost enough to not make you buy the game, you probably don't want to buy the game.
As has been said, this is a strong incident in this game (and a lowlight,) but it's not an isolated incident in the game. It's a recurring theme and issue. With a lot of things, for example the trans character in the game, the localization team did a pretty good job massaging the text - but they didn't remove anything, for better and in this case worse.
Working in this industry, I know a couple of teams from different Japanese studios that made a game and were basically told by marketing and higher ups that they had to go back into their games and edit things to be more demeaning/more sexualized towards underage characters/grosser overall. One example, which I can't specify because it was from within the last 5 years, had some of the sexuality and grossness removed for the West and while people complained about "censorship," the person I knew on the original development team said the team felt relief at being able to ship what they actually wanted to outside of Japan.
Why do Japanese higher ups and marketing feel these things are necessary for a domestic market? I don't have the answer beyond a generic "culture(?)" answer. It's gross, but hope my insight is worth something.
Shonen is just a demography and word for boy. Sorry, I can't leave this pass like always.
There was a preview thread a while back that had one of the cutscenes posted earlier in the thread. It turned into a shitshow.Wow that's awful. What the hell is the developer thinking with this shit in 2018?! That pretty much cements my decision not to purchase this game. Was this not mentioned in any reviews? Reviews dropped weeks ago and this is the first I'm hearing about this
Again, don't know what the fuck you're talking about. The article is plenty specific on multiple examples of shitty sexism throughout the game, but even if it wasn't (or if for some reason you decided you don't want to believe it), there have been plenty of people here confirming the general tone of the game. Just from a quick scan of the previous page:
...
Are you purposely ignoring all of these posts or what?
As has been said, this is a strong incident in this game (and a lowlight,) but it's not an isolated incident in the game. It's a recurring theme and issue. With a lot of things, for example the trans character in the game, the localization team did a pretty good job massaging the text - but they didn't remove anything, for better and in this case worse.
Working in this industry, I know a couple of teams from different Japanese studios that made a game and were basically told by marketing and higher ups that they had to go back into their games and edit things to be more demeaning/more sexualized towards underage characters/grosser overall. One example, which I can't specify because it was from within the last 5 years, had some of the sexuality and grossness removed for the West and while people complained about "censorship," the person I knew on the original development team said the team felt relief at being able to ship what they actually wanted to outside of Japan.
Why do Japanese higher ups and marketing feel these things are necessary for a domestic market? I don't have the answer beyond a generic "culture(?)" answer. It's gross, but hope my insight is worth something.
I'll put it in spoiler tags just in case anyone is sensitive to this, but I'm not revealing plot info:
No, Raz doesn't get redeemed per se. He comes to people's aid and individual characters tolerate him more, but in terms of an actual redemption or behavioral change, not really. Read: if this stuff is almost enough to not make you buy the game, you probably don't want to buy the game.
As has been said, this is a strong incident in this game (and a lowlight,) but it's not an isolated incident in the game. It's a recurring theme and issue. With a lot of things, for example the trans character in the game, the localization team did a pretty good job massaging the text - but they didn't remove anything, for better and in this case worse.
Working in this industry, I know a couple of teams from different Japanese studios that made a game and were basically told by marketing and higher ups that they had to go back into their games and edit things to be more demeaning/more sexualized towards underage characters/grosser overall. One example, which I can't specify because it was from within the last 5 years, had some of the sexuality and grossness removed for the West and while people complained about "censorship," the person I knew on the original development team said the team felt relief at being able to ship what they actually wanted to outside of Japan.
Why do Japanese higher ups and marketing feel these things are necessary for a domestic market? I don't have the answer beyond a generic "culture(?)" answer. It's gross, but hope my insight is worth something.
I am talking about Persona 4 which came out a decade ago. It doesn't make if any less reprehensible.
Persona 5 has plenty of it's own gross problems too, like forcibly putting Ann in a compromising position to pose nude for Yusuke, right after a dungeon all about how she was a victim of sexual harassment and her friend was raped by the gym teacher. And, you guessed it, plenty of homophobia.
So Crimeria, the Valkyria in the game resists another another male character, but he continues his advances anyways. I can't remember the exact language used, but it's portrayed as in a "no matter how she resists, she actually needs him" way. The game seems to think it's romantic or something and makes him a strong character.
It's real fucking bad.
No, I've responded to Syrenne and had also read Saucycarpdo's post. I didn't see the third one, though it lacks details about what's going on after Crimeria. Nothing I've said involves claiming that those posters are lying or denying the sexism present in the game.
Which is why I am quite curious about whether someone else wants to confirm and elaborate on them or, on the contrary, dismiss them as overstated.
It's super disappointing to read about this because I've been interested in getting into this series. It seems like the first one is the only one that manages to avoid most of the pervy anime garbage.
I hated this kind of thing in Fire Emblem:Fates so I hope the new one that's coming has toned down the waifu bs.
Oh man. I got the first 3 Persona games on PSP after enjoying SMTIV on 3DS. I know that this is slightly OT, but what can I expect from those?
The "character who acts lecherous and gets slapped in response (sometimes)" is a fairly common perverted trope in Japanese media, including video games. It's so prevalent that Persona 5 tried to deconstruct this trope in one of its earliest dungeons while later falling into some of the same traps Valkyria Chronicles 4 did with how it treats its women characters.Yeah that crosses a clear line for me. Why did the devs ever think that this was ok?
Assuming you're talking about the remakes of Revelations up to Eternal Punishment, they're relatively trope-free in the pervert anime trash department. They're by no means perfect in other areas (Innocent Sin has, to my recollection, one of the earliest examples of transphobia in an ATLUS game via an NPC who they joke about their gender and the way they dress as it pertains to the gender they were assigned at birth, well before Persona 3 came to be) but the worst they get is "three women jokingly flirt with demons and one of them is uncomfortable while doing so ", and even then the discomfort is framed moreso with their actions being unlike how they would normally act when interacting with demons since the rest of their conversation choices tend to be a lot more in your face and aggressive. As for the other content...let's just say you're going to see why Persona 1 isn't as widely praised as the other entries, be it for its gameplay (Persona 5) or story (Persona 2: Both of them).Oh man. I got the first 3 Persona games on PSP after enjoying SMTIV on 3DS. I know that this is slightly OT, but what can I expect from those?
Persona 1 and 2 are completely free of Otaku trash to an awe inspiring degree.
Persona 3... eeeeehhh kinda. It has its moment, like how you literally cannot refuse to date a girl if you max out her social link.
If it's a well known company that localized it, it probably wouldn't be hard to guess what exactly it was. We only get so many games over here that are so filled with sexual content that they have to be edited to see a release.
To answer your questions honestly:If you think the issue is about his behavior per se, rather than how it's framed / treated and the consequences it has, then I'm afraid you don't "see" at all.
It's quite simple, really. Replace the assgrab with, say, beating the shit of a subordinate for no reason. Ask yourself:
If this example seems farfetched or exaggerated, remember: the original example is sexual assault, a crime in most developed countries, often with jail time. If you think sexual assault isn't a serious crime, consider it might be you who needs to readjust your views.
- How does that make you feel about the character? Do you feel he can still be a sympathetic main character? Or would this scene rather characterize him as a villain (or a very unhinged individual at least) in your eyes?
- How would you feel if the game portrayed it as something funny, other characters didn't much react, and went on to have him among the main cast with no consequence? Would this seem odd to you? Would there be some strain in the back of your mind to believe this?
- If you complained about it, would you be complaining about the fact that a character has beaten up another character, or would you be against how the game frames the severity of the action? What would you say to someone who interpreted your objection as saying that "characters can't be depicted beating another character", ever? Would you consider that to be an accurate summation of your point of view, or a strawman far removed from your actual complaints?
Or the needless transphobic part of "Operation Babe Hunt" (already a sucky event) where you walk up to a woman and your characters freak out because there's a facial hair on a woman. Pretty much every Hashino-san directed game (P3, P4, P5, Catherine, Catherine Full Body) has needless and random homophobia and transphobia just randomly placed in it seemingly out of context. It's what makes me have zero trust in Full Body's portrayal of a presumed trans woman romance option.
Even considering the actions portrayed in this game, the scariest part of this thread is the blatant censorship of any account that puts forth any sentiment that doesn't completely agree with the OP, even if they don't promote sexism.
I understand that this may be a private organization but it also holds itself out as a place of discussion. You walk a dangerous path.
Let me just put these here as food for thought.
Books won't stay banned. They won't burn. Ideas won't go to jail. In the long run of history, the censor and the inquisitor have always lost. The only weapon against bad ideas is better ideas.
Alfred Whitney Griswold
All censorships exist to prevent anyone from challenging current conceptions and existing institutions. All progress is initiated by challenging current conceptions, and executed by supplanting existing institutions. Consequently the first condition of progress is the removal of censorship.
George Bernard Shaw
Censorship is the child of fear and the father of ignorance.
Laurie Halse Anderson
Thought that is silenced is always rebellious. Majorities, of course, are often mistaken. This is why the silencing of minorities is necessarily dangerous. Criticism and dissent are the indispensable antidote to major delusions.
Alan Barth
Without free speech no search for truth is possible... no discovery of truth is useful... Better a thousandfold abuse of free speech than denial of free speech. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race.
Charles Bradlaugh
"Censorship reflects society's lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime."
–Potter Stewart
I detest sexual harassment. Women should certainly be treated better than they are in society. However, be aware that by walking this censorship path you are only creating the very thing you intend to destroy. Those voices will go elsewhere where people think the same way and they will be ever ingrained further into their way of thinking rather than being challenged and having to engage with differing views. It is especially stupid when it is a few mod's doing the censoring since it imposes such a limited scope of ideas upon this discussion.
I'm sure I will myself be banned for pointing this out.
Holy shit.Working in this industry, I know a couple of teams from different Japanese studios that made a game and were basically told by marketing and higher ups that they had to go back into their games and edit things to be more demeaning/more sexualized towards underage characters/grosser overall. One example, which I can't specify because it was from within the last 5 years, had some of the sexuality and grossness removed for the West and while people complained about "censorship," the person I knew on the original development team said the team felt relief at being able to ship what they actually wanted to outside of Japan.