[VGC] The entirety of Twitch has reportedly been leaked
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Unlinked my Amazon account from Twitch (didn't know it was linked anyway...) and changed both my passwords, that'll do.
The lottery is random. I can't tell most of the top streamers apart.
I'm glad you are getting something out of it.
What I would say however regarding streamer discords is that it's simply another way to keep your audience engaged and is another aspect of marketing and audience engagement.
If the streamer is not currently on, having your audience have a dedicated place to all go and talk together about the streamer or things related to their content, increases the chance of them staying engaged and feeling like they are a part of a community.
Having a place to discuss things with like minded people is a good thing. I post a lot in the AEW thread here as it has a lot of good people who also enjoy that product.
I personally however don't like communities that are built for following specific personalities or groups. I find that often it ends up being a place where fans feel they have a relationship with the person/group and it ends up fostering an uncritical environment that pushes away any form of criticism that gets brought up. I have decided to stop posting in more than one OT here for content creators because if I being up something I am not a fan of, I get jumped by the hardcore fans in the group because they take it as an attack on the people.
Im sure a lot of them do, but lets be honest, theres a ton of people that work just as hard as they do with just as much talent that havent made it, because a lot of success in entertainment is based entirely on the zeitgeist lining up with your personality in just the right way. Speaking as someone who knows a lot of people who work in the industry
Barb being on the list of top earners is really surprising. I've been watching him since he was averaging 500 viewers a stream, and it doesn't feel that long ago to me. I've had it in my mind that he's been hovering around 10k subs for a while now, but apparently not if he's pulling in that kind of money. I skipped through the thread, do we know if that sheet includes donations or is it just the money they're pulling from subs alone?
Catching up but to put that number in context that would be less than what you would make working full time at a minimum wage. After taxes and factoring all expenses it's nothing.
the fact that their personality and resources happens to fall within the archetype that succeeds is the luck component
[Insert literally any media thing] and Parasocial relationships. Let's not pretend that this is some unique issue only with streamers and isn't something that people do with literally anything. People only get mad here because people are making more money then them.
The same people here saying not to give money to millionaires shop at Amazon and Walmart.
Guys, this isn't a streamer thing.
Guys, this isn't a streamer thing.
I think a lot of it comes from seeing *who* is catching those lucky breaks.
Like, just seeing xQc get almost a million last month is depressing.
Stability.
I suspect they have a baseline payout per month from YouTube plus a cut of streaming revenues, and that baseline payout is the floor that provides them stability Twitch didn't.
Lupo did an interview where he seemed to indicate that was the case and he'd have more time now to spend with his family.
I mean, even if the person is dislikable, they arent responsible for happening to walk into a situation that made them a millionaire. The rage (if any is even justified) should be directed at a higher, systemic level. But also, I get that it can be fun to complain about a shitty person catching a break
My only thoughts are after someone hits a certain tear it should just be locked to subs and not "donations." If top celebrities/actors started adding donation links along with dropping their latest trailers I think I would be sick to my stomach.
People should be donating to those in need. Of course donations should be around for those streamers who could use it.
I think it's overall revenues. And he's pulling 3.6K on his RE2 stream right now. I know he's sub 15k subscribers because we haven't seen him be forced to go back to Skyward Sword again.
Breaking this down a bit more, if that 930k figure is pretax and if Barb gets a 60/40 split, after taxes, over two years his net total takeaway is a bit higher than 260k over two years, which actually does sound about right from what he's said on stream about his income. You'd have to making considerably more than just a million to be walking away with at least a million net so I don't think the majority of the people on that list should quit taking donations even when they're drawing in 6 figures off subs. Barb streams at least 8 hours a day 7 days a week, so he's putting in work for that money. I'm not sure if that's true of most of these guys, but I think jumping to assumptions does a disservice to just how much work some of them are doing.
Twitch would love a revenue payout cap, FWIW. It's free money to them at that point.
Of what I could find via a quick couple of google searches, at least 50% of that list is composed of either current or former twitch staff members.
Yeah, that sounds about right on the math. Those numbers seem like pre-tax revenues from Twitch alone, so it's not a full accounting.
they work a lot but relative to other jobs they arent doing hard labor, or skilled labor, and the ones at the top have 7 figure bank accounts mostly based on luck, a minimal amount of humor and physical looks.
My favorite thing about the "parasocial relationship" talk of the past few years is that nobody mentioned it until a popular youtube video came out and suddenly everyone wants to talk about it like they've always been aware of it and above it.
Sometimes people just like watching someone's content and enjoys engaging with it.
Have you tried it?
Because I did once and surprise, I was garbage at it.
Being entertaining and engaging, in public to an audience, while also performing any kind of task, is not something everyone can do. It absolutely takes both practice/work and a certain level of skill to get anywhere with it.
I don't mind donations.
For me I see it as tipping. I enjoy the content, they get some money from me. And I don't need to sub via Twitch where Twitch gets a cut. So I rather donate to show support. If a streamer can entertain me and I spend some time on their streams and enjoy it, I don't have a problem with paying for this.
I guess but people would probably just stop buying the currency to donate if they only donate to big streamers or best case scenario they donate more often to smaller streamers.
Well maybe I'm over thinking it but they should change the option to tip . It just seems weird to me for rich people to be asking for donations.
I should probably change all my passwords, on all accounts everywhere.
I should probably do that once a week.
I should probably do that once a week.
is 3.6k viewers a high number now? he usually ends his morning streams at around 5k. I always thought top earners on twitch were regularly pulling in 10k+ viewers per stream. I'm surprised you can be a top earner on there with lower numbers than that, especially as a variety streamer.
There is no reason to change passwords every week. It actually could make it unsafe (if you do not use a password manager with randomly created PWs).
If you have different passwords for each platform, there is no need to worry in general.
of course it takes some amount of ability but its not a skilled job
Turns out the only person I follow who actually makes any money on Twitch is Maximilian Dood. Glad he's doing well though.
So I changed my PW on my pc downstairs, but now I cant login on any of my other PCs bc it says I need a verification code sent to my email, but I'm getting nothing in my email.....wtf???? Anyone?
And yes, my email is verified, and I checked spam folders.
And yes, my email is verified, and I checked spam folders.
My dude, it would be fairly difficult to live on ~$11k pre-taxes. That is not a lot of money.
Are actors or comedians not skilled jobs either? Where is the line drawn?
It's probably slow right now with everyone changing stuff.
Well it is official.
Probably the only guy I am comfortable with what he makes. The man IMO deserves it.
I'm going to start saving for a nice PC and start streaming lmao. Even "small" channels are doing like 3 to 4 times the money I make with my sad low-paying-Mexican-10-hours-a-day job.
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I would bet it was an external hacker that used social engineering to get in. The amount of leaks that have been caused by someone infiltrating Slack or finding some other way to get credentials for an engineer is higher than you would expect. Even with that in mind getting able to get the entire database with no problem is crazy.
11.5k is dogshit money over a year span. That's nothing.
It's maybe a nice bit of extra income if you have a 9-5 and stream on the side but I don't see how anyone could reliably live off of less than 1k a month.
I'm pretty sure these are pre tax figures as well.