I'll update it in a little bit unless someone else posts an updated version themselves!
If someone beats me to updating it, I recommend noting alongside this that when asked in his deposition Vic said he didn't know how much he was suing for.
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Vic Mignogna Lawsuit |OT| Hold My Beard (Update: Appeal lost, Mignogna must pay attorney fees to defendants)
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If someone beats me to updating it, I recommend noting alongside this that when asked in his deposition Vic said he didn't know how much he was suing for.
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Also. Another defense against defamation is that Vic has been asserted to be libel-proof, meaning his reputation was so bad already that the defendants had nothing to damage even if they did defame him. Vic himself supported this argument when he referred to his reputation being damaged by "death of a thousand cuts" - his case is dependent on the defendants specifically being the ones causing the damage.
For the tortious interference bit, a few staff members from conventions which have cancelled have went on record to state that defendants did not influence them, and Vic himself has admitted that he doesn't know they're responsible.
On the vicarious liability bit, the defense's claim is that since they're independent contractors and not employees, they aren't agents of Funimation.
(P.S. stop reminding me that I still haven't watched the Clear Card series)
Also. Another defense against defamation is that Vic has been asserted to be libel-proof, meaning his reputation was so bad already that the defendants had nothing to damage even if they did defame him. Vic himself supported this argument when he referred to his reputation being damaged by "death of a thousand cuts" - his case is dependent on the defendants specifically being the ones causing the damage.
For the tortious interference bit, a few staff members from conventions which have cancelled have went on record to state that defendants did not influence them, and Vic himself has admitted that he doesn't know they're responsible.
On the vicarious liability bit, the defense's claim is that since they're independent contractors and not employees, they aren't agents of Funimation.
(P.S. stop reminding me that I still haven't watched the Clear Card series)
(My deep dark secret is that I've only watched the first two episodes myself)
Is it? Thought they were in Mountain...
(checks)
Nope, it's past 5. Good lord, it must be a Friday.
Check in to this thread during my small bits of free time was certainly making my day slow.
Wasn't Greg corrected to 11.59pm being the deadline? Not entirely sure, but ffs he can't have missed it?
Huh, I came to the same realization earlier today. Go figure.
I was just wondering if someone explain what the jellybean incident is? I've seen it being used by ConVic's to either prove his innocence or the real reason he was fired in the first place, being that it was blown out proportion by Monica or something like that.
Named Jellybeans. Rial had some made. Vic ate one and made some "I am eating Monica" remark when he ate it, afair.
If I remember right, once at a con, Vic wrote Monica's name on a jellybean and said, "look, I'm EATING Monica". Vicstans were trying to say that was the incident that Monica was referring to and trying to cover up the actual allegations.
Part of the evidence for Vic being "fired" from Funimation (as much as you can fire an external contractor) was an indicent involving Monica Rial and Vic where Vic wrote Monica's name on a jellybean, ate it, then said "Now I've eaten Monica." in a sexually suggestive way.
Vicstans have long proclaimed that this was "just a joak" and "humorous", and a smokescreen for what really happened, which is that Monica was jealous of Vic's ability to get plum roles (ha!) and she engineered everything in order to take over his positions.
All BS, of course.
They can't even play the same roles.
Even their shitty conspiracies make no sense.
For those who are wondering, the "war story" is about Ty Beard being a fucking moron although he never says it's Ty. It's Vic's deposition that he's describing.
I've got to say though, I don't give a damn what your credentials are or how close you are to the case, no one is going to convince me that trying to give a definition of the word "shit" comes from being out of your element. There are some cases where you have to take someone being a huge moron at face value.
EDIT: I totally forgot that Vic tried to bring his makeup artist into his deposition. I can't remember if there was even a reason why he wanted to do that.
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She was the "Vic Whisperer" I recall the idea was that she would clarify what Vic "actually" meant.
So...Percy might have missed the filing deadline. Nothing definite yet, but the Threadnought and Sean Lemoine are strongly hinting it.
EDIT: Confirmed by Ty himself:
The running theory is that Percy's having issues attaching all the "leaked" Funimation audio clips to the filing.
EDIT: Confirmed by Ty himself:
And of course, we're having technical problems getting it filed. Typical.
The running theory is that Percy's having issues attaching all the "leaked" Funimation audio clips to the filing.
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Gotta respect the hustle.
I'm sure all weekend Percy and Blackface will be spinning how awesome there late filing is to get more money for the GFM that Vic has no idea how its been spent.
Probably leaking a lot of stuff in the process. And counting bills as they continue to take Vic and the Alt-right for a ride.
I'm sure all weekend Percy and Blackface will be spinning how awesome there late filing is to get more money for the GFM that Vic has no idea how its been spent.
Probably leaking a lot of stuff in the process. And counting bills as they continue to take Vic and the Alt-right for a ride.
God, Beard is so incompetent. This probably won't impact anything though, the judge will probably accept his excuse. The defendants might file a motion to strike his late filings when they go up because he was tweeting a bunch literally minutes before the deadline...not exactly trying hard to get it filed on time.
Really I'm just annoyed because I wanted to read Law twitter tear his response apart but now nobody will see it until at earliest Monday but more likely Tuesday (because it's a holiday in the US i believe?)
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I'm seeing who that leaked audio was really for. The morons who think the "jellybean" story was the only reason Vic was fired, and not the years of abusive behavior and inappropriate touching. It's to convince THEM they're right, while everyone else just rolls their eyes.
This is such a shit show...
This is such a shit show...
IGN reports that Nick Rekieta leaked these voiceover sessions:
Vic's response has been filed.
Just started reading and they're citing Panty and Stocking as evidence FUNi's work culture was "sexually charged".
Just started reading and they're citing Panty and Stocking as evidence FUNi's work culture was "sexually charged".
...........
That's like saying Eugene Levy is a sex pervert because of his appearances in American Pie.
Panty and Stocking is intended to be sexual, that's the joke!
"Funimation made anime with sexy stuff in it recently, so it's okay that Vic harrassed women repeatedly over the past few decades" is one hell of an argument lol.
Also, yikes. He's actually trying to use the Stan Dahlin affidavit as proof that Monica lied about Vic assaulting her. The affidavit that has Dahlin saying he doesn't remember :|
Edit: he uses the Dahlin affidavit multiple times. Like pretty much his whole argument relies on it. This is an insanely stupid thing to have filed lol
Also, yikes. He's actually trying to use the Stan Dahlin affidavit as proof that Monica lied about Vic assaulting her. The affidavit that has Dahlin saying he doesn't remember :|
Edit: he uses the Dahlin affidavit multiple times. Like pretty much his whole argument relies on it. This is an insanely stupid thing to have filed lol
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Oh c'mon, Beard is just fucking with Vic now. I refuse to believe someone is this freaking incompetent.
Lol he spends like a page on the Hanleia stuff.
For people who don't know: One of the original tweets that sparked Funimation looking into Vic was a tweet by someone asking why Funimation hired known pedophiles. People thought that meant Vic because of his history, Funimation investigated Vic, found a bunch of dirt on him and severed ties. That original tweet was never about Vic, it was about someone else.
This is also not at all relevant to the lawsuit. The things Funimation fired Vic for doing have affidavitz from his victims supporting that he did them, as do the things the other defendants tweeted about him doing. The original reason for starting the investigation is irrelevant, if they had learned these things through any other path they would probably still have fired him... If anything this line of argument helps the defense because it re-enforces that Vic's reputation was already so damaged before the events being sued for that PEOPLE MISTOOK HIM FOR A DIFFERENT PEDOPHILE.
For people who don't know: One of the original tweets that sparked Funimation looking into Vic was a tweet by someone asking why Funimation hired known pedophiles. People thought that meant Vic because of his history, Funimation investigated Vic, found a bunch of dirt on him and severed ties. That original tweet was never about Vic, it was about someone else.
This is also not at all relevant to the lawsuit. The things Funimation fired Vic for doing have affidavitz from his victims supporting that he did them, as do the things the other defendants tweeted about him doing. The original reason for starting the investigation is irrelevant, if they had learned these things through any other path they would probably still have fired him... If anything this line of argument helps the defense because it re-enforces that Vic's reputation was already so damaged before the events being sued for that PEOPLE MISTOOK HIM FOR A DIFFERENT PEDOPHILE.
Just an FYI: this isn't as meaty as it appears. Most, if not all, of the new information's within the first hundred pages -- Beard bloated the formatting with copy-pasted depositions and only using one page for each tweet.
Damn!!!! I didn't even know that the Hanleia tweet was about a different anime industry person, I wonder who is this garbage person that was mentioned in the original tweet.
Probably Illich Guardiola or Scott Freeman, both voice actors that worked with Funi that got caught being pedos (and were fired).
If there's another one though... I don't know who.
Oh ok, I have heard of that name, as well as Scott Freeman mentioned in DanarchyReigns post.
Good that these people are being outed and fired.
Amazing. The fact that Beard didn't even try to respond to a lot of the arguments made in the defense's motions is kinda hilarious also.haha holy shit
It's also conveniently ignoring that this is not a criminal trial, and that Vic is the PLAINTIFF.
It's kind of amazing how I've run out of adjectives to describe the incompetence of these lawyers.
Holy fuck.
Holy fuck.