Vic Mignogna Lawsuit |OT| Hold My Beard (Update: Appeal lost, Mignogna must pay attorney fees to defendants)
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Oh, in that case, Beard's just clinging to Huber's affidavit because his position is straight up garbage and he has very little work with, so the guy who still kind of admits that Vic's a sexual predator and that everyone thought that of him already is marginally better than all of the other people who are that he's a predator straight up, or the ones who are saying that they don't care but saying it didn't affect them anyway.
"Rumors of Vic being "an asshole" "using fans" & "being a pedophile" was started Funimation's "de facto manager" Chris Sabat in the early 2000s"
Like... Vic made his name off of Funimation roles in the early 2000s... Surely the way to get rid of Vic if Sabat didn't like him would be to not hire him for his projects... not play the 15 year long con, build up his name and wealth to get him fired NOW.
There is a level of idiocy here that I don't understand.
And speaking as a gay man taking a hit at Sabat for thinking Vic was gay? Everybody thinks Vic is gay. It's been an ongoing thing in almost every single affidavit. I'm pretty sure it's intentional. He's Peter Paning his life.
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Post's real big so gonna selectively quote here, cause I want to single this bit of the document out as being super weird to me.
They make this huge deal about the "anime community" being an undefined thing, when in context it can be easily understood as "the people attending a convention", or something along those lines? Maybe there's some legal stuff here I'm not seeing, but it's such a weird point to lock onto. Especially as IIRC Huber literally refers to the "anime community" as well in his affidavit, when talking about why he sent those e-mails.
In general... maybe it's a little late, but I would really say to wait for the lawyer commentary to happen more before taking anything away from this. My perception from the vague stuff that's been said already is that even the stuff that appears slightly coherent may really be a mess, as you'd kinda expect. Not sure if it's really worth trying to read how "strong" anything is with that in mind.
This entire filing is 95% (and probobly more) smoke and mirrors. It is utterly fascinating, and we should keep the discussion to the actual case and the people involved in it, and not let this shit distract us.
Reading through Huber's affidavit again, his fears regarding Sabat's "retaliation" and "attempts to destroy my career" come across as...paranoid? I'm assuming this is because apparently Sabat and co. got pissy at Haberkorn for allying with Beard, but even then it's not like he runs FUNimation.
Sorry I haven't been following this thread closely, but have the recently leaked "satirical blooper" audio bits with DBZ dub voices making gay and incest jokes factored into all of this?
Not at all. The only tangential connection is that Nick Rekieta -- the GFM grifter who convinced Vic he had a case -- purposely leaked the audio for the purposes of distracting from the lawsuit in an attempt FUNi and co. as hypocrites.
Cue faux-outrage from endless Vic stans gaslighting the narrative with "OH YEAH, SO VIC GETS FIRED OVER A JELLYBEAN JOKE BUT IT'S OKAY TO MAKE HOMOPHOBIC JOKES HUH?????"
Pretty much not at all?
Not a part of the case in any way. More of a distraction from Vicstans. It got its own thread since it had fuck all to do with this, actually.
Well considering it took Sabat 15+ years to take out Vic, Chuck's got an easy 20 years before the chickens come home to roost on him.
Yeah, you didn't hear about the rape accusation earlier this year? The exact details escape, but he did obtain counsel with Beard.
Yeah I thought it would be brought up in this situation by Vick's camp as classic whataboutism. Still I did find the audio to be kind of disappointing to be honest.
Yeah nothing is adding up. It's clear obfuscation.
Bringing in Sabat really showcases this is a frivolous lawsuit and Funi were right to hire anti-SLAPP lawyers.
Bringing in Sabat really showcases this is a frivolous lawsuit and Funi were right to hire anti-SLAPP lawyers.
Because the relationship likely isn't as toxic as Chuck is making it appear. He accuses Jamie & Monica as making their stories bigger than they were, but that reality is his own.
At the very least, most everyone here expressed disappointment at Sean using a slur even despite the "it was a different time" excuse, myself included.
Same reason why conventions kept inviting him: because he brought bank.
Except it was Funimation's casting that allowed him to become big. If Vic was an asshole, he was always one it didn't come from his fame. Vic's fame came completely devoid of his own acting abilities and rather roles that were already written that he fell into. Had they gotten rid of him prior to those marquee roles (Given Chuck's claims of Sabat's blind hatred of him and control over casting) it would have never been an issue. I'm also confused why he'd be given such marquee roles BEFORE he blew up if the story goes that everyone in Funimation hated him from the jump. These things don't match up.
I heard about the rape but didn't realize he was throwing in with these assholes too.
After #KickVic started trending, a female VA joined the conversation by saying (paraphrased) "I got raped once, by a man who I will not name."
Haberkorn immediately jumped up and yelled "Fuck you! I never raped you, it was consensual!"
The authorities are presumably giving Haberkorn the side-eye, although probably nothing will ever happen, because rape hardly ever gets prosecuted.
Haberkorn decided to run off and hire Beard as his lawyer, because he learned that Beard is now the Anime Rapist Lawyer. With any luck, Beard's utter incompetence will lead to Haberkorn implicating himself and putting himself behind bars.
Yeah.....
He could've stayed silent.
I'm not sure what this means for him, he has done some WatchMojo videos.
I mean he still fucked up by being a rapist in the first place.
I mean she didn't even name him.
Then he was stupid enough to reveal it.
A shame really, I liked him as Jaco.
Very hard for her to be "let go" when there hasn't been a need for child goku or young child gohan in a while. As well, Voice Acting is contract work for the most part. Once the role is done, you may or may not find work again. Now, if you're truly let go and the situations bad enough, your work may be replaced in a prior role. As far as I'm aware, that has not happened with Stephanie. It's possible her DUIs caught up with her professionally though.
There is a reason Nadolny was removed from OK KO. It's likely the same reason she was no longer contracted by Funimation.
The company Vic worked for worked on some raunchy cartoons, therefore Vic should be allowed to creep and harass freely.
Wow, sounds like Beard worked hard over the course of a month to top his "Vic is not a literal pile of poop" argument.
Wow, sounds like Beard worked hard over the course of a month to top his "Vic is not a literal pile of poop" argument.
Whoa, this is new to me. I heard Nadolny was on OK KO, I assumed she moved to LA to get better gigs like a bunch of the Texas VAs.
I have been staying the hell away from this topic since I wanted to get all the facts before I land on a decision. Although, it has been hard since for months my Youtube feed has been swimming with StandWithVic videos with obvious click bait titles and 'gotcha Funi' titles.
That said, I find it disturbing that Vic and his followers' defense so far seemed to be that the people he worked with are assholes too instead of trying to prove his innocence. So what if Sean and Sabat are homophobic? What does that have to do with Vic being accused of sexual assault among other things? That and the entire trial by media that Vic's lawyer is doing, including giving interviews to YouTube of all things, is extremely unprofessional. Maybe I missed more since I have been admittedly not following for the reasons I posted above and feel free to correct me.
Overall, while before I was willing to give Vic the benefit of the doubt since he did file a lawsuit and I figured one way or another we will learn more about what happened, so far Vic only shown that he is guilty and the only thing he can do is sling mud at the other side and go 'no you'. That and the weird 'why he was really fired' conspiracy theory boarders on Moon Hoax level of weirdness. To me, once you start going to the tin foil hat, you lost the case.
That said, I find it disturbing that Vic and his followers' defense so far seemed to be that the people he worked with are assholes too instead of trying to prove his innocence. So what if Sean and Sabat are homophobic? What does that have to do with Vic being accused of sexual assault among other things? That and the entire trial by media that Vic's lawyer is doing, including giving interviews to YouTube of all things, is extremely unprofessional. Maybe I missed more since I have been admittedly not following for the reasons I posted above and feel free to correct me.
Overall, while before I was willing to give Vic the benefit of the doubt since he did file a lawsuit and I figured one way or another we will learn more about what happened, so far Vic only shown that he is guilty and the only thing he can do is sling mud at the other side and go 'no you'. That and the weird 'why he was really fired' conspiracy theory boarders on Moon Hoax level of weirdness. To me, once you start going to the tin foil hat, you lost the case.
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From what I've heard, Nadolny mostly left to focused on her singing career while the original English Bulma had a disagreement with Sabat. Although, Nadolny did say fairly recently that she would love to play Kid Goku again. So, who knows.
That's what is really perplexing honestly. If Funimation really didn't like him they could just stop giving him work at literally any time. His contracts only last a few months at a time for the given project he was working on. They didn't NEED all this pageantry. Texas is literally the easiest state in the country to fire somebody in and they technically aren't even firing him because he's not even their employee.
That too since Vic was, from what I remember, a freelancer. Which is how he did voice work on Jo Jo and Viz dubs. So why is only Funi getting all this shit while other dubbing companies also aren't hiring Vic because of this allegations?
I thought Tiffany Vollmer left to pursue a different career?
All of them are just Independent Contractors (Except Sabat I'd think, he's a Funi employee proper), none of them have any loyalty nor bound to only work for Funimation. People aren't yelling at other Dub companies because they're stupid and think that Vic was getting a weekly pay check from Funimation like some 9 to 5 job as if Voice Work isn't "Gig Economy"
I know I was told that it was really Nadolny when I asked about it recently. It was in relations about someone asking why Nadolny hasn't done Kid Goku in games.
Yeah, don't know what the disagreement was. From what I've heard, it wasn't on good terms. But the whole thing with Nadolny and Tiffany is kinda confusing, and I don't want to go around spreading false rumors.
I know Sean is a contractor, but I thought more than a few were working directly for Funi like Sabat.
Apparently Nadolny had some run-ins with the law, with her DUIs making recording sessions difficult.
What does they mean by 'And she has been shopping this casting couch story for years'?
Money, fame, he had pull with Funimation and MeToo hadn't happened yet.
Just like any other sex pest that kept working before MeToo.
Man, I always knew it was only a matter of time before those old outtakes came back to bite Sean and the others in the ass.
They're trying but it doesn't look like it's working. Most everyone is just disappointed in Sean's comments in those old outtakes, but nobody's coming for his or Sabat's head over them. It doesn't seem to have really moved the needle at all which isn't surprising as it isn't relevant to the case at all.
So it looks like since Greg got taken down, every other lawyer on the Threadnought has felt the need to step up and give their analysis of Percy's filing. It's getting ripped apart by lawyer after lawyer.
Good job guys getting Greg locked for a few days. You've made things infinitely worse.
Good job guys getting Greg locked for a few days. You've made things infinitely worse.