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Maybe but it wouldn't have been a guarantee like Hololive is. The top independent English speaking Vtubers probably don't make anywhere near as much as she is making now and they've been at it for years and had to buy all the equipment themselves and find artists/riggers and pay them, figure out issues without much support, etc. Gura definitely seemed to have already done some of that beforehand though but still. We also don't know her circumstances, if she requires structure that Cover Corp can provide her, doesn't have business know how, and so on. Its almost certain that she probably wasn't making much money from her previous channel despite the view counts.
Its also hard to figure out what its like now post HololiveEN launch since its brought so much attention to the medium, indy EN vtubers might have more success now. Artemis who didn't make the cut seems to have successfully launched on Youtube and is doing solid numbers but still only a fraction of Hololive. I think she'll definitely grow to be one of the biggest indy Vtubers if she doesn't end up getting picked up for 2nd gen Hololive (which if they were smart, they would do). Only issue in that case would be having 2 sharks lol.
I don't blame her for not wanting to be seen as the drunken shit posting loli anymore. It makes sense.
Literally everyone in Hololive is asked to sing Country Roads all the damn time. Even people who aren't aware of any connection would have been asking.
She tried it already in her old channel. Gain modest success but not really break out hit despite already have sizeable fanbase. She probably want to try to have fresh start in Hololive. Have company backing + her gen mate she make the situation bit easier. She herself definitely did not expect it being very successful though.
It feels like another one those times with Hololive where there's too much content to handle, especially if you try to follow a lot of the members.
Into the rabbit hole, only to fall into a massive black hole....D:
Into the rabbit hole, only to fall into a massive black hole....D:
Her competition will be even more rough now that Hololive EN is a proven success. The talent pool this time will be savage if it wasn't already.
"Wait...Youtube recommendations is all vtubers?"
Korone: "Always has been."
I don't think ppl join hololive for the money, which obvious is better than solo, but its definitely more of a passion and being part of the overall group thing. Resources help too (which im still a bit iffy on how much cover actually provides?).
At the same time there is a lot of restrictions and I can't imagine having 10s of thousands of ppl in chat being all that productive.
I've been enjoying indie stuff too these days. Just being able to chill in mocca's chat when they are playing old games and chat is just a different experience.
Meanwhile hololive folks pretty much are quit restricted in terms of games they can play and songs they can sing. Just a different vibe.
Can't hurt to have both.
At the same time there is a lot of restrictions and I can't imagine having 10s of thousands of ppl in chat being all that productive.
I've been enjoying indie stuff too these days. Just being able to chill in mocca's chat when they are playing old games and chat is just a different experience.
Meanwhile hololive folks pretty much are quit restricted in terms of games they can play and songs they can sing. Just a different vibe.
Can't hurt to have both.
This is my biggest issue with the current state of Hololive, I'm really tired of the holos having to explain almost every stream that they have to get the right permissions before being able to play a game.
It seems crazy that just a few months ago Korosan was playing the Pepsiman and the Spiderman games of PS1...
I remember Kiara saying a few weeks ago something along the lines of: "Please don't ask for Atlus games", so they must have tried already
Still, when a random pekora Minecraft stream can hit 60k peak and her papers please peaking at over 50k it's probably not hurting too badly.
You'll hear it first from Fubuki if they are not being treated well lol
Korone not being able to stream all the weird games she gravitates to just sucks.
Reminds me of Sasaki Saku retiring from her channel four months after her debut because Ichikara wouldn't (or couldn't) get Nintendo streaming permissions.
Once they did get it, they gave her the rare offers to reopen her channel and she accepts. She's currently the 4th most subbed Nijisanji member.
This clip is the only English translated clip I could find on the subject.
I got legit worried for her when the permissions issue started, nowadays it must be practically impossible to contact with the copyright holders of a good ammount of the most infamous retro kusoges
Putting her enormous popularity growth aside (because she doesn't seem to really care about that), I think it has been a pretty hard year for her (COVID, her family issues, her birthday concert being cancelled, the antis attacking her, the sudden lack of permissions to play whatever she wanted...)
Thank god for Okayu being there for her
Japan is extremely strict with streaming rights for games and music even more so than the west so Japanese company-tied Vtubers will have a tough time with that sort of thing compared to western indie Vtubers.
People forget how restrictive Atlus was with Persona 5 just for complete random no name streamers in the west?
Actually Japan in general is so behind that kind of stuff when it comes to their music industry which is why it didn't gain anywhere near the popularity K-pop has in the west. Same with their Dramas, like almost nobody seems to have licensing rights for their shows in the west.
People forget how restrictive Atlus was with Persona 5 just for complete random no name streamers in the west?
Actually Japan in general is so behind that kind of stuff when it comes to their music industry which is why it didn't gain anywhere near the popularity K-pop has in the west. Same with their Dramas, like almost nobody seems to have licensing rights for their shows in the west.
Yeah, with how Atlus was with Persona 5 there is no way they give permission for any of their games.
Fucking Atlus.
Bunch of old men going "Streaming? Whats that? Its spoilers?! Noooo!"
Wait wait, does Nijisanji gets permission to play more games compared to Hololive?
And what's the reason for that?
And what's the reason for that?
It does suck that they can't play whatever games they want to play and its beholden to whether or not the company gives them permission. Then again its better that they do get permission otherwise they'll run into a situation like a few months ago where they have to mass hide videos due to copyright
They were working on getting permissions right from the get go, Cover waited until it was literally too late.
Hana Macchia was playing Persona 4 just a few days ago. I guess Nijisanji got permission from Atlus?
I wonder if that has to do with her being in Indonesia and not Japan, or if Nijisanji just got through to Atlus and managed to convince them to give them permission to stream.
Oh my god...what a blunder <facepalms> would this be still recoverable in the future?
That really sucks
Do you guys have any recommendations for Nijisanji streamer to really watch for? who is their highest subbed member?
It's not monetised and she says in the description she's not allowed to stream the ending. She must have gotten permission yeah.
Tsukino mito
Also look for kaoru and kanae, the highest sub male vtubers.
Well, they managed to patch thing up with Nintendo and they got their permissions, so they just need to keep trying.
I still don't understand what the hell is going on with Capcom tho...
She's been playing it for the last few months on and off but her description has warned people that she won't be able to do the ending or monetize it so they're definitely still on a leash.
I read that they had a specific issue with Ghost Trick (any maybe other story based games like Ace Attorney) don't know if there's any truth to that.
Ugh Capcom. I would love to see Ina play Monster Hunter or Gura play RE and all the countless other games I'm sure the Holos would want to play.
It always amazes me that nijisanji can't break into the en market as well as hololive considering that they have some real top tier talents.
They need more English translated clips? lol
I'm also checking some Nijisanji clips.. Guys and girls are playing together!
Why can't hololive play like this lol
Hololive doesn't actually have any restrictions as far as I'm aware against their girls streaming with guys, it does happen with some of the talents, they just kind of don't promote their guys very much at all, and to a lot of the girls it's not worth potentially alienating their crazy audience for very little benefit.
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