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Warhorse; the studio behind Kingdom Come Deliverance will announce their new game on April 18th at 20 CEST

Y2Kev

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People always talk about the reading quests and other immersive sim elements (like needing to bathe) but I think they need to go further. It becomes kind of like work after you get the initial hang of it. The combat sure needs work too. But I do like how the wilderness feels.
 
Shivam

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Can't wait, it's time to end Henry's story. I hope they will improve the combat and there's a big city to explore.
 
DrFreeman

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Reckheim said:
It's really not that bad, especially if you don't activate any of the modifiers.

It's definitely a refreshing take on the genre tho.

The longer I am removed from last generation, the more I associate the game with being my game of the generation.
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Thanks! By the last part, do you mean to say you it is aging well or that you remember it more fondly as time passes by?

TimotheusNL said:
It's not that intimidating, to be honest. It just does things a bit different. It mostly plays just like Skyrim but with a lot more depth and systems to dive into.

Also, without the dragons, magic and other fantasy tropes. It tries to stay grounded in that way and that's one of the best things about it.

Don't sleep on it.
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That sounds good and exactly like what I wanted. Skyrim had some depth but it was also quite shallow (and opaque) in some aspects.
 
EntelechyFuff

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Archduke Kong said:
So what's this game's deal? An RPG in a realistic setting as opposed to fantastical?
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That's basically it, but there's a lot of froth about how realistic is realistic. Not in terms of game mechanics, but content. The (as I'm sure you have seen) lack of black people portrayed in 1400s Bohemia is a massive topic.

For me the portrayal of women was the tipping point—within the first couple of hours it seems like every woman at every level of society is aggressively trying to bang Henry at the earliest opportunity. 1400s Bohemia or not, that struck me as overtly unrealistic and I just couldn't stick with it after that.
 
Jay_AD

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EntelechyFuff said:
That's basically it, but there's a lot of froth about how realistic is realistic. Not in terms of game mechanics, but content. The (as I'm sure you have seen) lack of black people portrayed in 1400s Bohemia is a massive topic.

For me the portrayal of women was the tipping point—within the first couple of hours it seems like every woman at every level of society is aggressively trying to bang Henry at the earliest opportunity. 1400s Bohemia or not, that struck me as overtly unrealistic and I just couldn't stick with it after that.
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But you see, it's only MY specific power fantasy that I see as 'realistic' and project as fact onto an era of history that is as sociologically complex as any other time.

It's probably the genre of pop culture discourse that I find the most tiring of 'em all.
 
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Reckheim

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View: https://twitter.com/WarhorseStudios/status/1779871914766344638

new image, yeh, that looks like St Vitus church from Prague.

if you zoom in on the tower, you can see the small Gargoyle's sticking out.
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Ertleon said:
I don't see a problem with a blacksmith becoming a knight. The story does not have to be 100% historically accurate even if the rest of the world is trying to be. The problem is rather that the games that say they are historically accurate like Kingdom Come are not actually historically accurate. they use their fake historical accuracy to justify women's role in the games or lack of poc and other things.

For me even fantasy games are allowed to try and be historically accurate to the time period if they want. but with for example Final Fantasy 16 "historical accuracy" was just an excuse to not include any poc.

At the same time Kingdom Come portrayal of the medieval period is pretty standard way to do it in mainstream media i feel. and when it comes to games it is probably one of the most accurate games there is. Should we improve how women/poc/minorities are represented in all historical media and other things? Yes. Hopefully the second game tries to improve on that front.
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Did the mods even read/understand this post? No wonder nobody wants to engage in the conversation: even if you agree that the the game uses its "fake historical accuracy to justify women's role in the games or lack of poc and other things" and hope the "second game ties to improve on that front" you get reported and banned.
 
Ruken

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Metadata for the reveal video was mined before going public. It's almost 14 minutes long. Has a hashtag for KCD2.
 
wafflebrain

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KC: D was one of the most memorable and immersive games I played last gen, no other AAA game besides Witcher 3 has captured natural looking topography and treelines so well. Those forests 👀

I really hope they up the simulation aspects for whatever this ends up being.
 
TimotheusNL

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EntelechyFuff said:
That's basically it, but there's a lot of froth about how realistic is realistic. Not in terms of game mechanics, but content. The (as I'm sure you have seen) lack of black people portrayed in 1400s Bohemia is a massive topic.

For me the portrayal of women was the tipping point—within the first couple of hours it seems like every woman at every level of society is aggressively trying to bang Henry at the earliest opportunity. 1400s Bohemia or not, that struck me as overtly unrealistic and I just couldn't stick with it after that.
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Did you accidentally boot up Dragon Age, The Witcher or Mass effect or something? There's hundreds of games where the power fantasy basically is 'i'm attractive and women are attracted to me' and apparently no-one bats an eye. But KC:D is the one that broke you? It sounds like you played a completely different game.

As far as I remember, this game barely has any romance in it and the only real courtship part is a rather involved questline where Henry basically is a shy, clumsy oaf for the first few hours while you take your love interest for walks, choose the right dialogue options and go to the tavern on occasion. Did he end up in bed with a noblewoman once? I honestly barely remember. It's certainly not a running theme and there are so many games far, far more egregious in this regard you can almost not even play many RPG's if this is the thing that really rubs you the wrong way.

Not to mention the DLC that has a powerful woman as the main character that by all means goes in on the role of women in 1400's bohemia.
 
Odinsmana

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Did the mods even read/understand this post? No wonder nobody wants to engage in the conversation: even if you agree that the the game uses its "fake historical accuracy to justify women's role in the games or lack of poc and other things" and hope the "second game ties to improve on that front" you get reported and banned.
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Yeah. I have read the post 3 times now and I genuinely don't see how it is dismissive of concerns regarding representation and sexism. Half the post is saying how the game has poor representation of PoC and women and how media often uses historical accuracy to "justify" that and the other half of the post is about how the game is mostly historically accurate in the areas other than representation. It seems like the post agrees with the people who have concerns about representation.

I am genuinely asking if someone can explain it to me because I might just be blind here and if so I want to improve.
 
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RedSparrows

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Odinsmana said:
Yeah. I have read the post 3 times now and I genuinely don't see how it is dismissive of concerns regarding representation and sexism. Half the post is saying how the game has poor representation of PoC and women and how media often used historical accuracy to "justify" that and the other half of the post is about how the game is mostly historically accurate in the areas other than representation. It seems like the post agrees with he people who have concerns about representation.

I am genuinely asking if someone can explain it to me because I might just be blind here and if so I want to improve.
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No, I don't think you're wrong.
 
DoradoWinston

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I wanna see that forest more than anything

played the first one, it was unique. Clunky as all hell but was pretty different than your average medieval RPG
 
Tankshell

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I really did enjoy the first game, but I never actually finished it. Think I got about 60% through… anyway I'm interested to see what this sequel brings to the table.
 
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Reckheim

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Hoping that they release a 60fps patch for the first game this summer for the console users.

would make sense to drum up some hype.
 
hobblygobbly

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Reckheim said:
The major city in the game looks to be Kutna Hora (which at the time was the second most important city in Bohemia).
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That would be interesting too, if thats the case i wonder if they will be doing a time skip of henry from like 1403 of the first game, to about 10-15 years later, because historically there is some very interesting developments with the start of the Hussite Wars and Kutna Hora being an important location for that. Wonder if Battle of Kutna Hora will be part of the game then..
 
Nameless

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DD2, STALKER 2, and KCD2 in the same year can only mean I'm subconsciously controlling The Simulation.

Saw the leaked trailer. My boi Henry is a MAN now.
 
Sparks

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Ughhh I need to finish this game, I forget why I dropped it. Did it have annoying overburden mechanics or something?

God I hate games with inventories for some reason.
 
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Reckheim

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Pistols confirmed as well.

also looks like the rumored Trosky castle is in the game as well.

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Yes amazing
End of 2024 too.

This is their Witcher 3 moment.
Game looks absolutely stunning and a good step up.
You can see they really cared and want to push forward.

Hopefully the game is as bug free as possible with all those new systems and variety it seems to have.
 
Rodrigues solitaire

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Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 Announced, Will be 'Twice as Big' as the Original: ‘A Behemoth of a Game’ - IGN

Warhorse Studios has announced Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2, the sequel to its popular first-person RPG set in medieval Bohemia. Here are the first details on the world, the story, and much more.
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But when asked if Warhorse's philosophy had changed at all for the sequel, or if it would incorporate more stories like the original game's DLC, A Woman's Lot, Stolz-Zwilling told IGN, "The story and plot of KCD has evolved—it's darker, deeper, and more cinematic, yet also crueler with pivotal decisions and plot twists that challenge the players's conscience. Nevertheless, it retains its humor and down-to-earth approach. As mentioned already, Henry is embarking on a journey from the countryside and local quarrels to a relatively Cosmopolitan city. that is besieged and occupied by the invading king. Naturally, in a place like this, people can expect a wide range of ethnicities and different characters that Henry will meet on his journey.
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IsaacVarion

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Would you suggest the first one to a rpg fan? I tried it at launch on Ps4 but it wasn't the best experience performance wise.

Now I'd play it on a powerful pc.
 
cowbanana

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That music... holy shit.

Game looks good, I love the medieval architecture and the nature scenes. I never actually finished the original, so maybe I should do that. I remember it being quite decent, but somewhere along the way I got sidetracked and just never returned.
 
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"Naturally, in a place like [Kuttenberg], people can expect a wide range of ethnicities and different characters that Henry will meet on his journey"
 
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hobblygobbly

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IsaacVarion said:
Would you suggest the first one to a rpg fan? I tried it at launch on Ps4 but it wasn't the best experience performance wise.

Now I'd play it on a powerful pc.
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its an excellent RPG, with a lot of skills, choice, good story, etc, but what it also does, is being excellent immersive sim too. its a rpg a lot in styles to older RPGs, so your char's skills really matter, and there is a lot of them.
 
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