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What do you want out of the next "New Super Mario Bros." game?
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I don't want a New Super Mario bros. Game. But I would like a new 2D Mario game that controls as tightly as the original NES games. And has a general faster pace, as well. I think that's one of the reasons why Super Luigi U was my favorite of that bunch. The stages were shorter and more compact while being challenging, but the pace was faster well. And a more interesting art direction wouldn't hurt, either.
NSMB didn't even reach the previous bar for visuals. I would keep expectations low.
This and to not keep using the same level ideas from other NSMB games.
Ala Wario Shake It. It would be fantasticNew 2D Motion Artstyle based on classic 2D art by Yoichi Kotabe
A new art style is all. Seriously why haven't we got a Mario game in the style of the classic Mario art?
All of the New series is good, and U was amazing, but man is that art style tired and boring. Hopefully they drop the "New" part of the title as well. Ain't nothing new about it.
Otherwise I just want them to make the 2D Mario they know how to make oh so well.
All of the New series is good, and U was amazing, but man is that art style tired and boring. Hopefully they drop the "New" part of the title as well. Ain't nothing new about it.
Otherwise I just want them to make the 2D Mario they know how to make oh so well.
Beside the aforementioned art style and music, I would like to see the challenges from the 3DS Mario maker be included for all levels (personally over the 3 star coins being the challenge portion of each level). Those challenges are some of the most enjoyable moments in any 2D Mario game.
Get rid of yellow Toad because he should never have been the 4th player in the first place. Add at the BARE MINIMUM Peach and Rosalina because they already have designs for them in power-up suits (because of 3D World). New art style would be great, I'd prefer the one in OP. The NSMB art style is fine but it's just... soulless.
Yeah this. We need a NSMB game with playable Peach / other playable female characters. The yellow Toad thing was ridiculous.
Hear hear.
At this point, existence.
I was just thinking this morning about how Odyssey didn't really sate my appetite for some Mario platforming. NSMB probably has a much better chance of hitting soon than a 3D World successor, and I'm ready for it.
Improving the music would be the best change they could make. A new visual style wouldn't hurt but isn't necessary IMO. A more interconnected world map would also be nice, NSMBU did a little but didn't go as far a SMW.
I was just thinking this morning about how Odyssey didn't really sate my appetite for some Mario platforming. NSMB probably has a much better chance of hitting soon than a 3D World successor, and I'm ready for it.
Improving the music would be the best change they could make. A new visual style wouldn't hurt but isn't necessary IMO. A more interconnected world map would also be nice, NSMBU did a little but didn't go as far a SMW.
Not to be called "New". How about Super Mario Adventures?
- A more organic world map, and each level has its own unique look.
- Crazier levels, like a witch house where you get shrunk and fight ants (like in Super Mario Land 2), a lego tower, a carnival, etc etc.
- Meet well-known as well as new faces on the way and have them team up. Including Bowser, Wario, Captain Toad, Peach, Luigi, Rosalina and more.
- Swap (somewhat) freely between characters within the levels, and let more players join your adventure whenever they want.
- Secret branches that make sense, like taking you to a harbor where you play a harbor level and meet a new character and you get on a boat to reach further down the map that way.
- Special coins/stars/items on each stage that are easier to collect with certain characters.
- More interesting visuals.
Something like that would be cool.
- A more organic world map, and each level has its own unique look.
- Crazier levels, like a witch house where you get shrunk and fight ants (like in Super Mario Land 2), a lego tower, a carnival, etc etc.
- Meet well-known as well as new faces on the way and have them team up. Including Bowser, Wario, Captain Toad, Peach, Luigi, Rosalina and more.
- Swap (somewhat) freely between characters within the levels, and let more players join your adventure whenever they want.
- Secret branches that make sense, like taking you to a harbor where you play a harbor level and meet a new character and you get on a boat to reach further down the map that way.
- Special coins/stars/items on each stage that are easier to collect with certain characters.
- More interesting visuals.
Something like that would be cool.
Did you play Super Mario Challenge in Mario Maker 3DS? It's amazing.
- New 2D Motion Artstyle based on classic 2D art by Yoichi Kotabe
You all know the artwork. You've seen it everywhere. It's been used more and more to represent Mario and friends outside the games. But I think if Nintendo were to use this artstyle in a similar vein to Cuphead, it would excite a lot of fans and give the series a fresh look.
I hate the look of NSMB.
Ok you sold me with that artsyle. I would absolutely love that for a 2d game! In actuality maybe letting us swap artsyles? That could even be turned into a gameplay gimmick where certain obstacles require certain artsyles to progress (wall jumping for 3d art work, go behind objects with 2d).
Actual new worlds like a space theme. Ditch the ground, desert, ice, rock, lava, etc. type worlds that they keep repeating in every game with little variation.
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I've been looking for this quote, I'll add to OP, but Miyamoto spoke on a new artstyle for a 2D game.
https://nintendoeverything.com/miya...t-interest-in-having-classic-games-on-switch/
https://nintendoeverything.com/miya...t-interest-in-having-classic-games-on-switch/
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At that point they'll call it New Super Mario Land lol. But I definitely agree with more variety in levels. No more Grass/Desert/Snowy/Seaside/Forest/Mountain/Sky/Lava themed levels.
The art style is the most immediately noticeable shortcoming. I just can't get excited for a new Mario 2D platformer when the recent Rayman games have been so great. It's just not something I need anymore.
Just anything not "New". So many other 2D platformers since 2006, when NSMB was actually fresh, have surpassed Mario with freshness. Sonic Mania, Freedom Planet, Tropical Freeze, Rayman Origins, Shovel Knight, Celeste, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Wario Land Shake It, etc...
I will say Super Mario Maker was perfect, but I want something actually new. Bring back the crazy fantastical worlds. Have Koji Kondo compose the original soundtrack or Mahito Yokota.
I'm tired of the plastic feel and same damn worlds geeze.
I will say Super Mario Maker was perfect, but I want something actually new. Bring back the crazy fantastical worlds. Have Koji Kondo compose the original soundtrack or Mahito Yokota.
I'm tired of the plastic feel and same damn worlds geeze.
I agree with OP's suggestion of using the artstyle of Yoichi Kotabe.
Other than that, I want them to focus on making the game feel like an adventure.
It's become clear that the NSMB series have leaned way to hard on the "levels" type of gameplay, where you need a flagpole at the end because traditions or something.
Fuck that. Be original. Make more levels like the Spiral Tower (my favorite from SMB3):
Other than that, I want them to focus on making the game feel like an adventure.
It's become clear that the NSMB series have leaned way to hard on the "levels" type of gameplay, where you need a flagpole at the end because traditions or something.
Fuck that. Be original. Make more levels like the Spiral Tower (my favorite from SMB3):
I like those ideas, but I think it will stay separate. I think Mario Maker will go in the direction of giving people more tools to do what Nintendo has done in 2D Mario, while NSMB tries to do new things you won't be able to do in Mario Maker.
I'd definitely like to see NSMB play around with new art styles. Make the switching of styles the gimmick of the game even. There's so much they could do.
I'd definitely like to see NSMB play around with new art styles. Make the switching of styles the gimmick of the game even. There's so much they could do.