the way you brought it up as an example of a recent arcade racer when OP specifically was looking for things like burnout revenge is kind of my point!
paradise was obviously an ambitious, original and accomplished game for the time, but it was directly responsible for the subsequent idea that all arcade racing games have to be open-world. see EA putting criterion to work on NFS, the failure of blur/split second, and so on.
this sucked and continues to suck for fans of track-based arcade racers like burnout 1-4. series like ridge racer have more or less disappeared since (though hopefully RR8 does happen). open-world racers are just totally different games — there's no focus on track design, no way to implement interesting and distinctive mechanics that'd break down in an open world, no proper time trials, less satisfying progression through a career mode, etc.
i like forza horizon 3 as much as the next person but it's really not the same. sometimes i just want to choose a car from a menu and use a dumb nitro system to drift through a lovingly crafted closed track as quickly as possible.
Why miss it? I was playing it just the other week at 4k!
How? it's not possible to buy this thing anymore thanks to Activision. Did you mean by pirating it?
Or I bought it physically all those years ago? either way it's abandonware..no need to cyber police.How? it's not possible to buy this thing anymore thanks to Activision. Did you mean by pirating it?
At least we are getting this magnificent arcade racer soon, and with local multiplayer.
No cyber policing intended. Assuming that is the pc version we're talking about does the physical copy come with a steam key I can use to download the game from steam if I buy the physical copy? I don't have a dvd driver for my pc.Or I bought it physically all those years ago? either way it's abandonware..no need to cyber police.
Nope I have to use a crack with it. I think if you bought it on steam it still works though? You just can't buy it anymoreNo cyber policing intended. Assuming that is the pc version we're talking about does the physical copy come with a steam key I can use to download the game from steam if I buy the physical copy? I don't have a dvd driver for my pc.
well, that sucks.Nope I have to use a crack with it. I think if you bought it on steam it still works though? You just can't buy it anymore
Redout is damn near close to being a masterpiece. Incredible music, one of the most distinctive visual styles in a game ever, an amazing sense of speed, perfect track design, literally all it needs are some minor gameplay tweaks to how ship handling works.Redout is a pretty good arade-y racer like Wipeout. The learning curve is harsh as hell and kinda gets in the way of fully enjoying all the effort poured into it by the devs, tho.
Nintendo released Cruis'n Blast last year.
Cant get more arcade racer than the GOAT
Seems great. Too bad Nintendo is sitting on this instead of porting to Switch.
Yep, you get what I'm talking about. The tracks, music, and visual style are next level. I put a good amount of time into it but the handling eventually got to me which is unfortunate.Redout is damn near close to being a masterpiece. Incredible music, one of the most distinctive visual styles in a game ever, an amazing sense of speed, perfect track design, literally all it needs are some minor gameplay tweaks to how ship handling works.
Preach it, brother!I think any game where you have to use an actual brake around turns is not an arcade game. Ebrake, yes. Drifting yes. But you should never have to slow down around turns.
I've been playing some "Burnout Revenge" on my 360 this week in fact. It's way too dark. Boy, did we get a few things wrong when it came to HD. But hey, it was the first HD title for a lot of us.
We're close to announcing some stuff, so stay tuned.
And this genre is far from 'dead' or 'has been killed' I know that.
My definition of arcade racers is what Sega and Namco were doing in the 90's. (Daytona, Sega Rally, Scud Racer, Ridge Racer and SASRT...)
Mario Kart, Crash Team and first Sonic Racing are a kart/party racing.
Forza Horizon, Burnout, The Crew, Blur and Project Gotham are all sim-cades.
I miss the first group a lot. I enjoy the second. The last group is very healthy.
IronicSonic....I agree with just about everything you said. Let me say this however: Sounds like you and a lot of other people in this thread slept on a game called GRID 2. If you have, I suggest.....no, scratch that....I *IMPLORE* you do check out GRID 2, like.....NOW!!!!!
When the game came out it was hated by a lot of Codemasters fans for not having a silly cockpit cam, and consequently proceeded to get bashed and raked over the coals by many people that would have otherwise mostly like purchased the game. Those of us that actually bought it and stuck with it however, discovered that underneath all the bullshit controversy, was arcade racer that pays a HUGE homage to the Sega and Namco racers of the 90's.
GRID 2's physics are so fucking good you will swear you're playing a mix between Daytona, Outrun 2 and Sega Rally Championship. CM managed to make the cars extremely drifty and you're actually encouraged powerslide around corners to get the best times. Driving the McClaren F1 in GRID 2 is literally like driving the one from Scud Race! The Ariel Atom feels exactly like the Rivelta Solare from Ridge Racer V. These cars extremely fun to drive!
Everyone's talking about Burnout, NFS, etc but I can guarantee you NONE of them hold a candle to the pure arcade fun of GRID 2. The game is 5 years old and there are *STILL* people playing it online on Steam! Buy GRID 2 guys. It has all the hallmarks of the classic racers from Sega and Namco, and has a KILLER career mode and a fairly healthy online community to boot!
By the way guys: two things I'd like to point out....
1)There *IS* another "90's Style Sega-ish" arcade racer many of you may not have been aware of, coming out on May 1st on Steam called Fast Beat Loop Racer: It actually looks VERY good and appears to be sort of a Wangan Midnight/Scud Racer-ish type of mix. I got my pre-order in already and I'm VERY excited!
https://store.steampowered.com/app/633110/FAST_BEAT_LOOP_RACER_GT__GT/
2)I know a lot people here are like me and loathe the whole Open-World style racer that's sort of taken over, but allow me to admit that as much as I scoffed at the idea of embracing an open world racer like Forza Horizon 3, I actually LOVE THIS FUCKING GAME lol! I just got 100% in FH3 and currently going through Blizzard Mountain. I have to say, the Blizzard Mountain DLC has taken the fun to the next level. It is fucking BANANAS!! The cars' physics are somehow even MORE on the arcade side of things because of the snow terrain, and sliding around corners in cars like the Mini Cooper feels VERY Daytona USA-ish! I can't speak for Hot Wheels DLC but if it's anything like Blizzard Mountain, it'll be even more fun!
Definitely check out FH3 guys, and don't let the whole "Open World sucks" thing prevent you from enjoying it. Believe me, FH3 is worth playing if you're looking for that arcade fix. Calling it sim-cade is stretching it IMHO, and this is coming from the biggest Sega/Namco 90's arcade racer whore on this forum!
Hype!I've been playing some "Burnout Revenge" on my 360 this week in fact. It's way too dark. Boy, did we get a few things wrong when it came to HD. But hey, it was the first HD title for a lot of us.
We're close to announcing some stuff, so stay tuned.
And this genre is far from 'dead' or 'has been killed' I know that.
I would brutally destroy someone for arcade-accurate ports of the original Rush games.YES! I would love a new Rush game or a remaster for the N64 Rush games.
This sums up perfectly what I try to say, only I need hundreds of words in a massive bout of verbal diarrhea to explain it :/What happened to arcade anything?
"Content" is King, not the arcade ethos of accessibility x replayability.
That looks pretty cool, appropriately slick, like an Initial D type thing.By the way guys: two things I'd like to point out....
1)There *IS* another "90's Style Sega-ish" arcade racer many of you may not have been aware of, coming out on May 1st on Steam called Fast Beat Loop Racer: It actually looks VERY good and appears to be sort of a Wangan Midnight/Scud Racer-ish type of mix. I got my pre-order in already and I'm VERY excited!
https://store.steampowered.com/app/633110/FAST_BEAT_LOOP_RACER_GT__GT/
"No true arcade racer"
What defines an arcade racer and why doesn't Horizon 3 or the Crew 2 possess those things?
Accessible/simplistic driving controls that are easy to learn but difficult to master?
You're definitely going to have to brake around turns in the Crew 2. I suspects it's handling model won't be that far from the Forza Horizon games.Yeah, it's really sad at the relative lack of them. And people who mention Forza Horizon and Driveclub are crazy. I think any game where you have to use an actual brake around turns is not an arcade game. Ebrake, yes. Drifting yes. But you should never have to slow down around turns.
Onrush looks great but is sadly not a racing game. The Crew 2 looks excellent, though. Really looking forward to that.
Hmm now granted I didn't play a TON of The Crew, but I recall it being a lot closer to Need for Speed than Forza Horizon. Maybe I'm misremembering.You're definitely going to have to brake around turns in the Crew 2. I suspects it's handling model won't be that far from the Forza Horizon games.
Ok. Admittedly I was basing this just on videos I'd seen. It didn't look like the handling model was that arcade like. Hopefully I'm wrong!Hmm now granted I didn't play a TON of The Crew, but I recall it being a lot closer to Need for Speed than Forza Horizon. Maybe I'm misremembering.
Please tell me it will be released this year.I've been playing some "Burnout Revenge" on my 360 this week in fact. It's way too dark. Boy, did we get a few things wrong when it came to HD. But hey, it was the first HD title for a lot of us.
We're close to announcing some stuff, so stay tuned.
And this genre is far from 'dead' or 'has been killed' I know that.
I've been playing some "Burnout Revenge" on my 360 this week in fact. It's way too dark. Boy, did we get a few things wrong when it came to HD. But hey, it was the first HD title for a lot of us.
We're close to announcing some stuff, so stay tuned.
And this genre is far from 'dead' or 'has been killed' I know that.