What If...? |Spoiler OT| Groot Was One Of Us?
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I think the death of Gamora can be considered fridging - especially in comparison to Widow's.
That's only ever been the case in the comics. Otherwise the entire premise of Endgame doesn't work.
Thank you!
I was wondering if I was the only sane person here. Did basically nobody pay any attention at all to Endgame? Damn comic book nerds. The entire thing hinged on grabbing alternate realities versions of the stones and of course they work in both other timelines and other Dimensions (See : E.g. Dr. Strange 1).
My favorite part of the episode was Ultron eating an entire galaxy. Cmon, that was just awesome.
For real, that was some comic book ass shit right there.
And man I actually really loved Hawkeye and Widow in this episode, like I never really cared for either in the movies but I was invested in the here. Loved the Watcher becoming more and more incredulous about Clint not looking at the right box right next to him.
I liked the Thor episode (always glad to see more Howard the Duck), but the Ultron one was even better. This second half has some really good eps and now they are bringing back dark Dr Strange? Hyped for next weeks episode that's for sure. The action in this series I feel has been consistently excellent. I'm glad another season is coming, definitely cant wait to see what they do next.
seriously, that was some comic book comic book shit of the highest order
also the battle taking place simultaneously across multiple universes, that shit was cool
Great episode
really cant wait to see what the animators do with an evil doctor strange vs ultron fighting across galaxies
really cant wait to see what the animators do with an evil doctor strange vs ultron fighting across galaxies
The story answer would be something like the TVA exists outside of the multiverse (e.g. what effect can the Time Stone have in a place where time doesn't flow?). The real life answer is the What If and Loki writers weren't exactly sharing notes.
Magic also doesn't work at the TVA.
Does that mean magic only works in its own universe?
No.
Probably because the TVA exists outside of normal spacetime. They can still channel the cosmic energy they need to work regardless of which universe they're in, but not if where they are supposedly lacks that energy.
Time stone worked in a dimension without time, so it's got to be more than that as well.
Comic fans: "Infinity stones shouldn't work outside their own universe!"
Marvel Studios:
People be tripping themselves up for literal years when the far simpler and honestly for-the-best answer is that the MCU multiverse is its own thing disconnected from the rest of the Marvel canon. It is as much a part of the official Marvel Comics multiverse as DC's multiverse is.
Shit, Arrowverse fans didn't shit themselves like when they did their own Earth-1 and Earth-2 and expanded their own multiverse far beyond the core 52, this isn't that hard.
Endgame would still work. They took the stones from their own timeline, not other universes.
I really missed quippy Spader Ultron in this.
Is that why Ultron won in this universe? Because he wasn't a quip-bot?
Is that why Ultron won in this universe? Because he wasn't a quip-bot?
At the point this was probably recorded, she was too busy playing Animal Crossing. :)
I was thinking the same thing. He goes from a one movie "monster of the week" type villain to a threat so dangerous that he decides to start destroying planets and dimensions just for the heck of it.
Given unlimited power Ultron would indeed cause unlimited destruction and chaos, that's what makes him so much more dangerous than someone like Thanos who has specific goals and can actually be reasoned with.
Agreed. Definitely the perfect choice for a big villain in What If? as well, I now cannot wait to see next week's episode!
Thats a really interesting point. As a being made of flesh and vibranium, he can handle their power in a way that nobody else we've seen so far can.
This is how i looked at it. Ultron has incorperated the stones into his very being and able to perform acts that even Thanos with the stones couldn't do. He has basically become a living infinity gauntlet run by an AI. That energy being stored within him probably allows him to break any restriction the stones have.
Hell him existing might be why the TVA has the robot scanner in the first place. Ultron getting access to TVA tech would be a disaster.
I guess that's one way to get people to buy all the figures.
Yeah thats common for Marvel Legends figures
I guess that's one way to get people to buy all the figures.
Now this is some serious bullshit haha.
Nearly every Marvel Legends line has a build a figure. It's annoying at times but a tradition going back to the ToyBiz ones in the early 00s.
The one where Jubilee was the BAF was the most annoying. To be fair though they've gotten much much better at making the build a figure related to the line, i.e. XMen lines have a mutant or other related figure where before it was some random shit where you had to buy the Punisher or Bullseye to complete Man-Thing or some such.
They do it all the time since the mid-2000s at least, like almost every Legends line has a a build-a-figure. It's a feature of the brand.
Hell, base the next Marvel VS around "What If..." It'd be the perfect premise for introducing character variants ala Mortal Kombat X and XI. Gimme Copter Blade Thanos and Mjolnir Cap alongside Infinity Ultron
What if Nebula was the favorite daughter? A what if within a what if. Or what if Thanos had a dog?
I guess the great thing about "plot holes" of multiverse stories is every answer is "it's an alternate reality" 😝
Thanos was also well ahead of schedule here, like 2-3 years assuming a similar timeline to our own. So yeah, must have been a very different story for just about every stone - like, Xandar and Asgard are still around to get blown up by Ultron despite Thanos having the Power and Space stones.
what?
yeah, i suppose that would be a good angle. though i guess it would also mean they wouldn't work once he hit the Watcher's bachelor pad
Possibly...his space where he looks into other universes appears to be in between them rather than entirely outside them. We don't know for sure based on the information provided in Loki so far but it seems to me the TVA exists in some sort of pocket dimension specifically outside the realm of spacetime.
It's not something I'm too concerned about though lol
Capcom's positively salivating at all the DLC costumes they can sell for such a game. And Id buy them all lol.
yeah, I just liked that scene in Loki and thought it was cool if that's what it was a nod to, but who knows.