Supporting racism and bigotry isn't a "divergent belief", it's just wrong.
I took a "political leaning" test and I fell right down the middle. Come at me, bro.
Supporting racism and bigotry isn't a "divergent belief", it's just wrong.
Okay, then you're smart enough to realize our country is in the grips of a crisis threatening its existence and there isn't much of a spot or you aren't doing any good by equivocating both sides when one side is actively trying to destroy the country. One side is worse than the other.I took a "political leaning" test and I fell right down the middle. Come at me, bro.
We?
https://www.resetera.com/threads/vi...o-fire-employees-for-being-transgender.65107/I honestly don't see much difference between the republican and Democratic Party. Just different rhetoric. It's all just lip service at the end of the day. That's why I try not to pre-judge an individual even if they inflict themselves with uncessary labels. Get to know people, brehs.
Regardless, falling somewhere in the middle isn't an achievement in and of itself. I'm a liberal on nearly all domestic issues, but I have my realist tendencies in terms of foreign policy.Okay, then you're smart enough to realize our country is in the grips of a crisis threatening its existence and there isn't much of a spot or you aren't doing any good by equivocating both sides when one side is actively trying to destroy the country. One side is worse than the other.
Growing up on the border makes the issue much less black and white than many here or on the other side make it out to be.
I hate this argument, same as the "turd sandwich" meme that gets thrown around constantly. Both parties are not the same and saying so only perpetuates that belief.
No, but y'all sure do have a persecution complexThe point of this thread was to get conservatives banned lol, don't pretend like it wasn't
Okay, then you're smart enough to realize our country is in the grips of a crisis threatening its existence and there isn't much of a spot or you aren't doing any good by equivocating both sides when one side is actively trying to destroy the country. One side is worse than the other.
But who is we? I'm still on thatThe point of this thread was to get conservatives banned lol, don't pretend like it wasn't
I still don't get what exactly is small government. I don't think most people really want to live in a place with small government.
You're a man, are you white? Are you straight?What I did today, I'd imagine, would be the same if we had a Democratic President and a democratic controlled congress. Can't say I agree with you.
Sitting in a dumb hole.
The part where what you're describing more or less calls it a day after normalizing the views.
I think it does, Republicans are openly stoking the flames that lead to black people being murdered in the streets by police at a previously unseen rate, and are enabling a level of racism that has seen a huge resurgence in Nazism in America. LGBTQ people, women, immigrants, they are all demonstrably in greater danger due to the policies and rhetoric coming out of the right. That your day would be the same under either party is a shortsighted way of looking at things I think when there are so many who are at risk. There are children being put in cages, their day is not the same.I'm black. straight. I don't think any of that matters though.
If someone tells you they support white supremacy, what more do you have to say to them? If they support kids being in cages, if they support gay people not having the same privileges under the law, why even entertain that idea when it's so incredibly harmful?If you meet someone new, and by some happenstance you learn they have a political label opposite of yours, don't ridicule or dismiss them straight away. Get to know them and make a determination through experience. Someone telling me they are left or right leaning doesn't move my needle at all.
Because you never answered my question. Anyway what is even your point. Are you a trump supporter or something different?
Because you never answered my question. Anyway what is even your point
Says a lot about you. You should also ask yourself why you bother posting in a forum that will look down on your beliefs if you are too afraid of posting them.
your non-moderator opinions? The fuck you talking about. It as if I stated my point in the op,but I don't think you read it.What was yours? You made the thread. I think your point was conservatives are not welcome on this forum, in your non-moderator opinion
I think it does, Republicans are openly stoking the flames that lead to black people being murdered in the streets by police at a previously unseen rate, and are enabling a level of racism that has seen a huge resurgence in Nazism in America. LGBTQ people, women, immigrants, they are all demonstrably in greater danger due to the policies and rhetoric coming out of the right. That your day would be the same under either party is a shortsighted way of looking at things I think when there are so many who are at risk. There are children being put in cages, their day is not the same.
If someone tells you they support white supremacy, what more do you have to say to them? If they support kids being in cages, if they support gay people not having the same privileges under the law, why even entertain that idea when it's so incredibly harmful?
Sorry this may not be the appropriate place for this but I'm really interested. How did politics turn in to like the NFL? It's either your team or mine.
I guess I wasn't influenced much by politics growing up so I registered as an independent. However, I have never voted for a republican president because they have all been insane in my lifetime if you are looking thru a normal point of view.
your non-moderator opinions? The fuck you talking about. It as if I stated my point in the open, but I don't think you read it.
No one is going to open up a conversation with "hey I support white supremacy". Even if you think thats what being a republican is, that doesn't mean they do. THAT is exactly the issue here. You are already under the idea that anyone not w/ you is an nonredeemable monster. So what do you actually expect by consorting w/ them at that point? You aren't going to change minds, not when you already think that lowly of them. That manner of thinking already taints your message at that point.
Bottom line, regardless if you think they are the lowest of the low for being "in the middle" or not, those are the people that have the power to change things for better or for worse. Be it due to ignorance, laziness or obliviousness, those are the peeps that CAN be swayed to your side. And regardless of whether or not you think it to be so simple that we= good them = bad, that is obviously not the case to them. You can go "well its not my place to educate assholes" and well yeah sure...NOT educating them sure as fuck isn't getting things done. This may seem to be very idealistic but there is still some "saving" folks and you don't do that by openly thinking of them as trash because the oblivious, lazy and ignorant all have one thing in common....they are very fucking stubborn and like it or not, being mean to them is more than enough for them to go against you to just spite you via voting against their better interests or what probably actually happened not voting at all because both sides-ism. The thing Trump and his lackeys did was lie to enough of those same peeps in the middle to have them join up...we have to get off of the superiority complex and do the same if you truly want some change...regardless of how obvious you may think it is. Otherwise you are just going to be stuck in place yelling at walls in hope of something different happening.
Luckily I think Trump has posioned the well enough for sweeping changes to be on their way but still this mentality taints a lot of you and its not a good look.
A Republican vote is supporting white supremacy, intention be damned. Don't make me post that Atwater quote again please, we've been over this already.
But what are you trying to do? Because again everything someone ask you" what is your point "you don't answer the question. I'm starting to think that maybe you don't have a opinion for this topic. Also for my point allnyoa need to do is read my op my dudeNot even trolling here, but did you even read what you wrote before posting? "It as if I stated my point in the open, but I don't think you read it"
It sounds like a stroke.
Tell me where the logic fails and we can talk about that aspect:No one is going to open up a conversation with "hey I support white supremacy". Even if you think thats what being a republican is, that doesn't mean they do. THAT is exactly the issue here.
I don't know about you but I don't want racists or people who support racism on my side and I'm certainly not going to bend for them. They can come into the new world we're trying to build willingly, or they can stay in the dust.those are the peeps that CAN be swayed to your side. And regardless of whether or not you think it to be so simple that we= good them = bad, that is obviously not the case to them.
I try to educate some people because I have the privilege to do so, that's on my shoulders, not people who are shit on by those people and the system constantly. But there's a limit to what I tolerate.You can go "well its not my place to educate assholes" and well yeah sure...NOT educating them sure as fuck isn't getting things done.
I don't think most people can change when they have racism built into society and buried in their hearts, and if they can it requires a patience very, very few have.This may seem to be very idealistic but there is still some "saving" folks and you don't do that by openly thinking of them as trash because the oblivious, lazy and ignorant all have one thing in common....they are very fucking stubborn and like it or not, being mean to them is more than enough for them to go against you to just spite you via voting against their better interests or what probably actually happened not voting at all because both sides-ism.
People wanted to believe him because he spoke to what is in their hearts, Racism, sexism, xenophobia, he didn't fool people so much as he said what they were feeling and thinking and he was the first to do it so openly.The thing Trump and his lackeys did was lie to enough of those same peeps in the middle to have them join up
Sorry this may not be the appropriate place for this but I'm really interested. How did politics turn in to like the NFL? It's either your team or mine.
I guess I wasn't influenced much by politics growing up so I registered as an independent. However, I have never voted for a republican president because they have all been insane in my lifetime if you are looking thru a normal point of view.
I am a fiscal conservative, didn't vote for trump, more right of center. I am a Christianbut would prefer the republican agenda actually believed in small government and stayed out of gay marriage/bathroom bills/ war on Christmas though I am conflicted on abortion for full disclosure. I grew up on the border and have issues with how Republicans have become so xenophobic but I am also not for open borders either, somewhere more in the middle. Growing up on the border makes the issue much less black and white than many here or on the other side make it out to be.
I don't talk much here because as someone else said, I can read the room, this is not a place where even moderates are welcome because that isnt good enough for folks. Same thing on another enthusiast site I am a part of (college sports) that has a damned active Q thread and it is he same there. The liberals read the room and just don't talk much because like here they will get shut down.
The thing Trump and his lackeys did was lie to enough of those same peeps in the middle to have them join up...we have to get off of the superiority complex and do the same if you truly want some change.
Nothing until you stop infantalizing them because of their inability to embrace simple logic.
The point of this thread was to get conservatives banned lol, don't pretend like it wasn't
But what are you trying to do? Because again everything someone ask you" what is your point "you don't answer the question. I'm starting to think that maybe you don't have a opinion for this topic. Also for my point allnyoa need to do is read my op my dude