Valkyrie Profile 2. Grandia 2 as a close second.
Goddammit now I feel like playing VP2 again and my PS2 is ded.
Goddammit now I feel like playing VP2 again and my PS2 is ded.
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Which (single player) JRPG has the best battle system of all-time?
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I stopped playing the series after Graces F, I played Xillia and I COULD NOT believe that they dropped the incredible battle system.
Bye Tales of series, I won't miss you.
Don't want to he rude, but i think you shouldn't have made a poll just to put likely random games and exclude most of what's considered great battle system wise in the genre.
I would say Grandia 3 is clearly better than 2 and Shadow Hearts From the new world light years better than Covenant in the combat department. You can disagree but that's why a poll with so few options do not make sense.
On topic: Press Turn Battle system is my favorite in the jrpg genre and SMT 3: Nocturne is still the best version of it.
I would say Grandia 3 is clearly better than 2 and Shadow Hearts From the new world light years better than Covenant in the combat department. You can disagree but that's why a poll with so few options do not make sense.
On topic: Press Turn Battle system is my favorite in the jrpg genre and SMT 3: Nocturne is still the best version of it.
Correct answer to the poll is Tales of Graces F though. It's absolutely astounding that a game so dumb can be so fun to play.
Same. I love how simple and fast paced the combat is. I love that the move names aren't up their own ass and easy to tell what it does quickly. Lightning II is a stronger version of lightning, not Thundara or Ziodyne or whatever.
Xillia was a regression for sure, but even so it feels far better than Vesperia. The way the enemies literally walk away from combos, the way your character gets stuck in a enemy "line", the insane amount of time the enemies are completelly invincible with no visual indicator...
Vesperia is super bad, people like it for some reason. It might have been nice when it came out and I do love some of the characters but the story isn't that special either, it aged super badly.
I forgot to say that I love the combat in Kiseki games too. It's not balanced at all (you can basically abuse Arc Slash in Cold Steel 1, and the 2-turn invincibility from Graham in the Third) but it's a ton of fun. Also pushing the enemies out of reach with Titat's mech never gets old.
Is Pokemon not on there because of the SP stipulation? The games are still SP in spite of the MP component...
Baten Kaitos Origins
EDIT: forgot Bravely series
and Trails of Cold Steel
Final Fantasy XIII/XIII-2/X-2/....and tbh XV even though it's really flawed
Grandia III
Kingdom Hearts 2
The Last Story
Resonance of Fate
Shadow Hearts series
Star Ocean 3
Tales of the Abyss
Valkyrie Profile series
Xenosaga II
I didn't vote in your poll because the options are weird. Like why Grandia II when Grandia III's battle system exists?
EDIT: forgot Bravely series
and Trails of Cold Steel
Final Fantasy XIII/XIII-2/X-2/....and tbh XV even though it's really flawed
Grandia III
Kingdom Hearts 2
The Last Story
Resonance of Fate
Shadow Hearts series
Star Ocean 3
Tales of the Abyss
Valkyrie Profile series
Xenosaga II
I didn't vote in your poll because the options are weird. Like why Grandia II when Grandia III's battle system exists?
Voted for Grandia II. I think it's a great mixture of strategy with the tension of a real time system. I imagine a 2019 updated version of those ideas would be pretty amazing.
I have a feeling many of the "Other" votes are for Souls games, but I respect you OP for not including them because I don't think they are JRPG's other than a semantic and narrow interpretation of the phrase.
I have a feeling many of the "Other" votes are for Souls games, but I respect you OP for not including them because I don't think they are JRPG's other than a semantic and narrow interpretation of the phrase.
Octopath with it's boost system was engaging and made a constant risk reward.
Paper Mario kept you active with mini rythem games and input blocking.
I'd be very happy if these two could somehow combine.
Paper Mario kept you active with mini rythem games and input blocking.
I'd be very happy if these two could somehow combine.
I know I'm a super minority but I agree and voted FF12. I adore the entire game and the battle system is incredible
As a sidenote, I always thought a simplified version of the FFXII battle system would be a great way to teach kids about programming.
If we're talking zodiac age then yeah I'd have to agree, though I could probably do without the programmable AI.
I think I'd prefer something like the D:OS 2 battle system ultimately.
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Absolutely not. Choosing your gambits was fun, the fights themselves were not.
I really love Xenoblade Chronicle 2/Torna's system. On auto, it lets me focus on party makeup, aux cores, pouch contents, weapon types, etc., and then see how it all works out when I press A to engage. I can always turn it off if I want to go full manual, it allows me to turn off QTEs, turn off aggro, adjust difficulty, etc. It's as manual or automatic as you want, which has given me a very late appreciation for what was done in FF12 and FF13.
Edit: Also agree on Panzer Dragoon Saga's. Man, that was good!
Edit: Also agree on Panzer Dragoon Saga's. Man, that was good!
I don't get the praise for XII's battle system. It's well-made and there's a shit load of customization options but I wouldn't call it "fun."
Also the Zodiac License Board is horrendous, at least in the PS4 version. You can't change your jobs, you can screw yourself out of certain good licenses, and then there's stupid stuff like a White Mage not being able to fully unlock Remedy Lore. Like that makes any sense
Also the Zodiac License Board is horrendous, at least in the PS4 version. You can't change your jobs, you can screw yourself out of certain good licenses, and then there's stupid stuff like a White Mage not being able to fully unlock Remedy Lore. Like that makes any sense
Grandia II, of all the options you could have given us? Grandia 3 basically perfects the turn-based battle system (in unfortunately the worst Grandia game).
Smart man. My vote as well.
You get kudos as well.
Bloodborne, if that counts
You can keep your MMO gameplay in the MMO, 14
FF10 is rock-paper-scissors gameplay for 80% of the game and the remaining 20% is abusing quick hit and grinding to redesign the whole sphere grid in order to catch up to the stats race of superbosses. FF10 is more autoplay than FF12 will ever be.
Yes, I played both.
Both involve limp autoattacking between skills which aren't reliant on actually controlling said characters and have no impact outside Limit Breaks.
FF X employs tactics and the battle order emphasizes that even more. Of course you can cheese it - like you can in almost goddamn every game there is. That doesn't distract from the fact that the basis is incredible sound and fun.
I'm still a big fan of the systems in both Shadow Hearts and Legend of Dragoon.
Maybe I'm just a fan of getting the timing down.
Maybe I'm just a fan of getting the timing down.
I'm not sure you know what ATB is, cause Final Fantasy XV doesn't use it.
Oops, my bad. I suppose I inferred the "active" in ATB meant a battle system where you actively move around in real time with light turn-based elements, but looks like I've had it switched around all this time. What would FF15's combat be identified? A-JRPG? ARPG?