Just got my toothpaste stolen because it was too big. It's a regular sized tube. I'd like to know how stealing my toothpaste keeps America safe.
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Why does the TSA suck so much?
- Thread starter BladeoftheImmortal
- Start date
because the aviation business doesn't want people to be afraid of flying after 9/11 so they set up this huge security theater, that really won't help if someone really is determined to get something dangerous on board, in order to make dumb people feel safe
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That TSA Agent is a huge fan of 1994's Richie Rich and it makes them suspicious of toothpaste.
I don't get why three small tubes is OK but one large one is a no no.
I don't get why three small tubes is OK but one large one is a no no.
On one trip to Japan, I was constantly hassled on every leg of the trip. Pulled aside for bomb tests, had to go through separate screenings, had my checked luggage rifled through. No idea why.
The checked luggage thing was the worst. Everything was in disarray and the zipper was hulked open and broken. I'm lucky that nothing fell out. They left a nice note telling me they were not responsible for damage to luggage during checks.
The checked luggage thing was the worst. Everything was in disarray and the zipper was hulked open and broken. I'm lucky that nothing fell out. They left a nice note telling me they were not responsible for damage to luggage during checks.
It doesn't really bother me anymore. I get that whole TSA pre check thing due to being in the military
Ima be honest, i always read complaints about TSA and I'm lost at why y'all have such a bad experience? It has never took me longer than 10 mins to go through there and they never go through my luggage and take anything
No one likes the TSA because they slow you down. We all like being safe when we fly though. It's s compromise.
The TSA are terrible at making anybody safer though, they are there to trick people into believing they are safer by harassing brown people
Are you not American? You haven't been allowed liquids greater than 3oz since 2006.
Since getting Precheck and Clear I don't have a problem with the TSA anymore. The whole process takes less than 2 minutes now.
I love the TSA and security check points in most of the West.
"You canne be carrying that 1.5 liter bottle of water onto the plane. That could kill people. Just dump it in the bin in the most crowded area of the airport."
"You canne be carrying that 1.5 liter bottle of water onto the plane. That could kill people. Just dump it in the bin in the most crowded area of the airport."
Oh, come on, you simply didn't read the instructions.
It's been known for years that you gotta bring those tiny little toiletries on plane trips.
Every online ticket service will direct you to a page that has all that shit explained. With pictures.
There is a reason why there are travel size toothpaste tubes sold everywhere. This has been known for almost 20 years now.
It's pointless. Failed tests of its effectiveness in prevention. TSA only exists so they can say "See, we did something about 9/11 with regards to air travel."
Forget about getting a bomb (I imagine that's the large fluids ban reason) on a plane. They can just bomb the security line during peak hours. How safe!
Forget about getting a bomb (I imagine that's the large fluids ban reason) on a plane. They can just bomb the security line during peak hours. How safe!
Because they're shit scared of someone putting plastic explosive into a full tube of toothpaste and bringing it on the plane.
It's not about a bottle of water being a bomb. A bottle of "water" filled with nitric acid on its own will do nothing if you throw it into a trash can. A bottle of nitric acid bought onto a plane then mixed with hexamine crystals smuggled onto the plane can make RDX.
They're not trying to stop bombs. They're trying to make it difficult to bring precursors and larger amounts of explosives on board. It's basically harm minimization on a giant pain in the ass scale.
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Have you thought this thru ? You take 3 tubes of explosives try and combine them someone will notice you're now mixing things . Lot more work even if no one notices these are measures to ensure safety .
Edit also it's a fucking toothpaste tube buy a new one costs nothing almost
What is so hard about following the instructions that are known for decades and displayed everywhere? No fluid containers above 100ml and all in a resealable bag. Its not rocket science.
Which is exactly what somebody attemped to do on a UK flight in the early 2000's.
It's all about false security.
It makes no sense, as long as you have 3oz or less of something in the same container it's okay, but 3.1oz it's now contraband.
What's stopping someone from bringing something dangerous on the plane in multiple 3oz containers? As long as they fit in the clear quart bag, you can bring as much of anything you want as long as it's in a 3oz or smaller container.
It makes no sense, as long as you have 3oz or less of something in the same container it's okay, but 3.1oz it's now contraband.
What's stopping someone from bringing something dangerous on the plane in multiple 3oz containers? As long as they fit in the clear quart bag, you can bring as much of anything you want as long as it's in a 3oz or smaller container.
Nobody likes tsa, however your reasons for not liking them is entireentirely due to your ignorance.
The limited number of 3 oz you can bring and the fact that scanners can pick them up.
Well, if you are truly limited, what is stopping say a group of 5 people to all bring the maximum they are allowed, and then combine everything later?
You hope someone notices a group of 5 people setting up a meth lab in economy.
The more people involved the more chance of picking up an operation by intelligence before it starts. It's a continual balancing act.
If you do the prep of moving the liquid from smaller to a larger container say in the bathroom at the terminal.
Then on the plane they do the other part?
I have no faith in the TSA.
It's false security at best.
I know at my local airport EWR (Newark) they routinely fail random checks for knives/guns/contraband.
Fuck the TSA and their waste of billions just to make flying worse. Security theater that is fucking worthless and incompetent.
I gladly drove 8 hours each way to avoid a 2 hour flight late last year.
They literally fail 90-95% of security tests and that isn't hyperbole at all.
You're much more likely for a TSA agent to steal your ipad than have them correctly find a smuggled weapon.
I gladly drove 8 hours each way to avoid a 2 hour flight late last year.
They literally fail 90-95% of security tests and that isn't hyperbole at all.
You're much more likely for a TSA agent to steal your ipad than have them correctly find a smuggled weapon.
I'm not sure what you're arguing here. Organizing a group of 5 people to mix together a bomb onboard a plane is more complicated than a single person doing something with as little prep as possible because of relaxed rules.
It's just about making it as difficult as possible. No one is saying all flights are now immune to all threats because of current rules.
I'd be fine with TSA if they were actually keeping the planes safe. All of the hassle and waiting...and it doesn't work!
http://abcnews.go.com/US/tsa-fails-tests-latest-undercover-operation-us-airports/story?id=51022188
Quote story: The news of the failure comes two years after ABC News reported that secret teams from the DHS found that the TSA failed 95 percent of the time to stop inspectors from smuggling weapons or explosive materials through screening.
If you're going to fail 95% of the time, just let me bring my damn bottle of coke I purchased through security check and on the plane. They don't let you because they'd rather you spend $4 on a coke after the security check.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/tsa-fails-tests-latest-undercover-operation-us-airports/story?id=51022188
Quote story: The news of the failure comes two years after ABC News reported that secret teams from the DHS found that the TSA failed 95 percent of the time to stop inspectors from smuggling weapons or explosive materials through screening.
If you're going to fail 95% of the time, just let me bring my damn bottle of coke I purchased through security check and on the plane. They don't let you because they'd rather you spend $4 on a coke after the security check.
Same thing happened to me in Japan. They were even checking to see if I had porn. I swear to god.
Who said anything about onboard a plane? I'm not sure why there haven't been more attempts of something to be done inside a terminal.
To do what inside a terminal, some type of act of terror?
It's certainly possible but why target that. If you just want to attack a place on the ground for terror, there are lots of places that are as populated and with much less surveillance and with a lot less security / sniffer doggies walking around.
The plane itself is the golden goose when it comes to aviation security. If someone performed an attack outside the TSA security area it would be taken as evidence that it would be too difficult to defeat the security and necessitated a target change.
Also, the economic impact of a plane going down is weighed much higher than a ground based attack.
As a Brit who's been to many UK airports and recently visited multiple US airports, TSA are unbelievably inefficient.
- Incredibly slow.
- Make travellers perform ridiculously petty actions like removing food from all bags, giving insignificant items their own damn tray and just making a general hassle.
- They seem over-employed. There are tons of people just standing around doing nothing.
- They somehow seem both inattentive and annoyingly present at the same time.
- Some think they are cops.
Overall, it feels like a big show more than anything. British and most European airports can process passengers quicker and more thoroughly without making such an effort of everything.
- Incredibly slow.
- Make travellers perform ridiculously petty actions like removing food from all bags, giving insignificant items their own damn tray and just making a general hassle.
- They seem over-employed. There are tons of people just standing around doing nothing.
- They somehow seem both inattentive and annoyingly present at the same time.
- Some think they are cops.
Overall, it feels like a big show more than anything. British and most European airports can process passengers quicker and more thoroughly without making such an effort of everything.
I like Amsterdam Schiphol airport security.
I was flying to stay at my parents house for Christmas and was carrying a wrapped Christmas gift I'd been given. The gift got flagged for containing liquids, so after I explained that it was a Christmas gift and didn't know what it was, the security guy was just like "OK, you can take it on board. No need to open it. Just promise you won't take it out on the plane or allow it to be seen by anyone".
Also, based on his reaction and comments to seeing the PS4 in my carry-on, I think he was a gamer too.
I was flying to stay at my parents house for Christmas and was carrying a wrapped Christmas gift I'd been given. The gift got flagged for containing liquids, so after I explained that it was a Christmas gift and didn't know what it was, the security guy was just like "OK, you can take it on board. No need to open it. Just promise you won't take it out on the plane or allow it to be seen by anyone".
Also, based on his reaction and comments to seeing the PS4 in my carry-on, I think he was a gamer too.