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Were they trying to solve the mystery? Yes or no?
Them failing to do so is a different topic.
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Why I think Persona 5 is the Most Over-Rated Game this Generation
- Thread starter JayWood2010
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Them failing to do so is a different topic.
Again, confirmation bias, a single hate thread is not a good measure, nor do I find your points valid at all
No because if they were they would confirm their speculations instead of doing the same thing that leads them to no closer to solving what they want to solve. My point is that despite having an end goal P4 has bad pacing because the group's actions never lead them closer to the end goal for 8 whole months.
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A hate thread? lol If a game is criticised its now a hate thread.
Apollo's Sun We are going to have to disagree on whether or not they were trying to solve the mystery. I'll respect your opinion.
Is it a praise thread? I wont play semantics with you about calling it "overrated", extend me the same courtesy.
Word for word my exact thoughts, straight from the mouth of my twin :p
Easily one of the best games I've played this gen, personally.
Re-read the OP. I just think the OP did not understand or resonate with what P5 was going for.
At least for me, I am itching to replay the game each time I think about it even after replaying it 3 times. There were lots of discussion in the old forum on the meanings and how everything fits together. I was part of that discussion in the first month having finished the game in the first week from when it came out. I'm sorry that its not for you OP and the other people constantly bashing on P5.
At least for me, I am itching to replay the game each time I think about it even after replaying it 3 times. There were lots of discussion in the old forum on the meanings and how everything fits together. I was part of that discussion in the first month having finished the game in the first week from when it came out. I'm sorry that its not for you OP and the other people constantly bashing on P5.
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Its neither.
Criticism - the analysis and judgment of the merits and faults of a literary or artistic work.
I have brought the question about whether or not reviewers got this correct in terms of people's opinions.
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Actually, P3 party members are quite good, especially since their development is tied to the story.
I agree with the pacing and Tartarus (and also the abyss of time) being terrible and one of the worst aspects of P3.
But your criticisms are bias to an extent because you apply to them P5 but not to P4. When someone brings up the bad pacing P4 has, You go but it has an end goal so it's fine.
I know people love it, but I hated it personally. Was my first Persona and I bought it based on all the acclaim. Thought it was a dismal game: overlong, poor writing, dull localisation, bad dungeons, restrictive, repetitive. I really, really disliked it.
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I did not say it was fine. I said one issue with P5 was that there was no end goal. You then brought up P4(or somebody else), and I said it did have an end goal.
And I said that it has bad pacing despite having an end goal because the group doesn't work towards it.
For those complaining about the dungeons in P5 : please save yourself a migraine and stay away from the SMT titles. I'm not trying to be an elitist douchebag, just a honest advise.
That's where I'm at. I tried to love it but it felt so dull and outdated. The dialogue and writing were poor and I hated how restrictive the game is. It felt more like a VN at times. Game drags on way too long, as well.
I remember getting super pumped up for the Hawaii trip in P5 since me and my GF were going to Hawaii a few months later. I let her know that P4 had an awesome event similar to this where everyone went on a camping trip and a lot of fun, goofy and memorable moments ensued.
Then the trip happened. And it was literally them complaining the whole time and/or talking about investigation shit. It was SUPER underwhelming and it left a bad impression. Goddamn that trip was super disappointing compared to P4. The game rarely let the cast interact together, and the Hawaii trip was the perfect moment. Alas, that perfect moment wasn't seized, and it seemed to be rushed along to get to the main plot. Shame really, the characters never got enough time to have character.
Then the trip happened. And it was literally them complaining the whole time and/or talking about investigation shit. It was SUPER underwhelming and it left a bad impression. Goddamn that trip was super disappointing compared to P4. The game rarely let the cast interact together, and the Hawaii trip was the perfect moment. Alas, that perfect moment wasn't seized, and it seemed to be rushed along to get to the main plot. Shame really, the characters never got enough time to have character.
I guess they needed more than 100 hours to properly develop the cast.
I'm replaying it right now. Disagree entirely. The characters are awesome.
Futaba's palace is some of the heaviest shit in any game.
Futaba's palace is some of the heaviest shit in any game.
Can't wait for the "Spiderman, GOW and Detroit are overrated and bad games, here why" threats.
I just loved everything about Persona 5, especially the replay value.
I just loved everything about Persona 5, especially the replay value.
I found it disappointing.
I love the combat, the aesthetic, the music and the setting. But the languid, indolent pace of the narrative forced me to take a break for about a month before I could muster the enthusiasm to jump back in. One of my hopes for the anime is a reasonably well paced take on the story from the game.
I love the combat, the aesthetic, the music and the setting. But the languid, indolent pace of the narrative forced me to take a break for about a month before I could muster the enthusiasm to jump back in. One of my hopes for the anime is a reasonably well paced take on the story from the game.
Pacing, really. Keep me hooked all the 100+ hours, never saw the time to come back home and unravel the mysteries that keep it moving: flashfoward, cat and mouse game with the police, know-how of cognitive theory, interesting mini-stories involving each boss and palace (reflection of a rotten real world that we live on), the different confidants,... I enjoyed it as much as I did with the murder mystery solving of P4 but with better cast, music, gameplay, art, dungeons,...
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The events are super disappointing in Persona 5 and it ties together with the lackluster characters. The character and confidant storylines in Persona 5 are just not interesting or memorable. It's like they actively tried to create the most boring stories and characters they could come up with. I really can't understand how anyone can praise the characters and confidants storylines.
Sojiros, Futabas and Kawakamis Condidants are among the best in the series and the general quality is above P4s. Characters appearing in each other Confidants is a huge step up feom previous games.
Of course they're bad ones, Chihaya for example imo, which all comes down to personal preference in the end.
But nothing beats the boredom I felt with Ayanes SL in 4.
Im pretty sure the events are supposed to be not funny, they're not the focus like they were in 4 and wouldn't fit the atmosphere at all. I can't imagine them going out camping or to an cross dress contest, without thinking about what's going on.
I just bought Persona 5 during the Golden Week sale and I don't play many jrpgs so I'm hoping op is wrong here lol
Get off the internet and play the game. This will make our experience better.
Sound advice lol. Just waiting for a long weekend where I can dive in for a while.
God you're obnoxious. My response is to your statement that you cant dislike p5 if you enjoyed 3 and 4, even though you have countless of examples in this thread already. If you want to know my feelings on the game in depth then feel free to check my post history . I think p4g is one of the best games I've played and I think 5 is one of the worst games I bought last year. You dont get to decide what I feel.
Threw off the pacing so damn bad. After Egypt the game dipped in quality with the following dungeon.
I don't want to decide what you feel.. I respect people's opinions with the exception of outliers. To me, your opinion is like you liking Street fighter 2 and championship edition, but hating SF2: Turbo/ hyper fighting.
That is an unlikely opinion when all things considered. If it wasn't for golden; spruced up graphics and being portable (and Chie chan), it would still be the least favorite out of 3,4 and 5. The dungeons weren't changed up too much from 3; blobs on the floor enemies, wacky ass tv portal hook, etc. I could go and on.. but I still love the game. Because of it being on a portable, maybe it was "paced" better for you like it was for a lot of people..
But to go from "the best you've played" to "the worst game you bought" the entire year, without a why or how makes you seem like you're not being truthful and that's in my opinion anyway. Why would i believe this from someone who apparently put in hundreds of hours into a game and can't even compare and contrast the two
What you call being obnoxious is me phishing for more out of your post than "you can't tell me how to feel!"
Edit: I erased the last line, twas unnecessary.
Of all the complaints anyone can have to P5, i don't even get this one.
How P5 doesn't have an end goal? How it doesn't "make promises"? the game literally goes media-res in the beginning and establish an end goal from the get-go, how did they got there? why police caught them in this other world? how did they know of it's existence and managed to catch Joker? who is the traitor? The interrogation is used as a frame device for most of the game for a reason.
And then there is the mystery of Morgana, the man who ruined the protagonist's life,the whole mental shutdowns thing, and more importantly, the Mementos, why it exists really? you know from the beginning that it will lead to something, they are all established from the beginning of the game, and it do it's job to follow on them in the end, it doesn't introduce anything new at the last minute for example.
Now you could argue whether it was good or not or if it was executed poorly or decently, that's valid and fair - i think the mystery of traitor was very poor compared to the culprit in P4 for example-, but to outright claims that there is NO end-goal whatsoever is just blatantly wrong.
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An easier way to start a productive conversation would be to just ask normally? You never questioned you just went ahead and did the whole sarcasm .gif shit right away. Anyway I'm over it. Moving on.
Yeah, I loved the first villain and the story arc but after that it just gets generic and boring imo.
It was ok. Took about 100 hours over 3 months because I got super burned out on a lot of it. Everything about the kamoshida arc was great. Then it went downhill. Getting boring, repetitive. The time constraint started becoming more and more a hassle. Some of this dungeons were just super grindy. Then the story started getting stupid *cough* akechi.
The persona stuff was interesting at first, but it's just not as fulfilling as a Pokémon game is
I love anime so I wanted to give it s try since people always rave about the games. It's as I said, ok. One good take away Is that I left the game really wanting a persona/yakuza style game in the sense that I want to be able to do all of the social stuff without the other stupid BS
I'd say it's a good 7.2-7.3/10( I also think game scores are too high in general)
The persona stuff was interesting at first, but it's just not as fulfilling as a Pokémon game is
I love anime so I wanted to give it s try since people always rave about the games. It's as I said, ok. One good take away Is that I left the game really wanting a persona/yakuza style game in the sense that I want to be able to do all of the social stuff without the other stupid BS
I'd say it's a good 7.2-7.3/10( I also think game scores are too high in general)
