No one is stopping you from ignoring people. You see it, just tag it
Why is Chick-fil-A popular?
- Thread starter Pixels
- Start date
No one is stopping you from ignoring people. You see it, just tag it
Whataboutism needs to be laser focused in order to be effective. Which other company does so much to proudly embrace how anti-LGBT they are?
There are companies that give money to both sides of the aisle, and thus have given to shitty people and causes. Chick Fil A basically only wants to make sure that their anti-LGBT cause gets oxygen. That is the difference.
Chick fil A is good as fuck and 10 minutes from my school so...
That being said, while I don't think Popeye's is quite as good, the closest Popeyes to my house is 10 minutes away while the closest CFA is almost 40, so it's a suitable substitute on breaks.
That being said, while I don't think Popeye's is quite as good, the closest Popeyes to my house is 10 minutes away while the closest CFA is almost 40, so it's a suitable substitute on breaks.
Before the controversy came out, it really was as simple as good quality food with great service. Those two things are crazy rare in fast food. In n Out are the only ones who compete there.
I think part of it is a testament to just how shitty the fast food experience has become that people are so amazed when one (albeit ethically gross) company manages to do it right for a change.
For example, I love my local Whataburger but unless you go there during graveyard hours the drive thru is always at least 3 cars deep, it takes 10+ minutes to get a single combo meal, and there's a 1-in-3 chance your order will be wrong. And I don't even get mad about that because I've just come to expect it.
The only time I ever seem to want to eat there is when I drive by one on Sundays. Of course they're like the only fast food restaurant that is closed every Sunday.
I feel that the distinction is meaningless when the end result is the same: your money's going to organizations that harm human rights. Just because you're clearing some arbitrary standard that you set for yourself, it doesn't mean that your money isn't ultimately doing just as much to harm human rights as some other person's money. Nor should it mean that anyone who's not clearing the same standard is, without exception, "a piece of trash". Because otherwise, many millions of otherwise decent people, many of whom are themselves oppressed minorities, would also qualify as "pieces of trash".
If we're going to be basing conclusions as to whether someone is irredeemable trash on this one issue alone, it's fair game to question whether the tangible result of any one person's decision to consume from Chick-fil-A is any different from someone else's decision to consume from Target, Apple, Amazon, etc.
Not sure what state you're in, but the Popeyes sandwich is $3.99. I think Chick Fil A is 30 cents cheaper.
very clean for a fast food place. The workers carry themselves with pride. I just had the Popeyes chicken sandwich though and thats the new king IMO.
This is just "nobody is perfect, we can't judge anyone" dressed up to make people feel better. We're comparing a company that scored a 0 on the Human Rights Campaign Foundation's Corporate Equality Index to companies that have scored 100. While that is only one standard, and we're only talking about diversity and LGBT rights, it gives you an idea of what we're talking about without covering our eyes and ears and saying "NO ETHICAL BLAH BLAH."
.
Make a stand. These threads and posters should go to the old place.
I feel like every week here a thread pops up about chick fil a so people could praise despite it's obvious stances
You people aren't slick lmao
You people aren't slick lmao
Era has an excellent ignore feature, which im about to make use of.
That doesn't address the argument. But if you'd prefer to go through life thinking people are irredeemable trash for the fast food they consume, and that that's the only thing you need to know about them to be sure that they are bad people, then yeah, sure, go ahead. That's a rather sad life to lead, in my opinion, but it's your prerogative.
I think chikfila, for fast food, is okay because the chicken is actually more chicken then other places /shrug
Everything else seems to be just as shitty but at least the chicken itself is kinda acceptable
edit:
Woah, this thread is what...
Everything else seems to be just as shitty but at least the chicken itself is kinda acceptable
edit:
Woah, this thread is what...
Last edited:
Argument? You have no argument. You came in, ignored all the LGBT people who have mentioned why these constant threads praising CFA are shitty and shat out some whataboutism.
I'm not living a sad life, mostly because I'm not a bigot who defends bigots. But that's your prerogative, guy.
Y'know, eating at CFA is cool if you like it, go ahead. But if you see those Anti-LGBTQ+ Statements made by CFA them-fucking-selves (something the other companies who work with the Salvation Army have not done), and ignore them just to keep indulging at CFA?
Getting called out for your shit is completely warranted and maybe you should listen, or deal with people not liking your support of a company like that.
Getting called out for your shit is completely warranted and maybe you should listen, or deal with people not liking your support of a company like that.
This is my favorite new phrase. All these douchebags in this thread praising Chik-Fil-A aren't slick.
My first boyfriend, who I'm still good friends with, was sent to a conversion camp by his parents. It was a pretty damn traumatic experience for him. Chick-Fil-A's donations go towards those programs. You seriously want to sit here and tell queer people it's not a big deal, praise this trash company, or play a game of whataboutism?
Bitch, fucking please. Someone should make a shame list of people from these threads and post it every time one pops-up. People do that shit when console war stuff comes up, like the Switch thread, why can't we shame people who support companies that take part in bigoted practices? Don't post stuff out there if you're not willing to back it up. And don't call yourself a fucking ally
Basically it's also faster than the Wendy's next door even though Wendy's has less customers.
Just wait until they mention their brother's friend's cousin who is gay and owns a CFA or their aunt's paperboy's daycare worker who is gay and eats there.
"Sir, would you like a side of bigotry with that sandwich?"
"No ma'am, just some packets of homophobia"
"No ma'am, just some packets of homophobia"
Stop giving them the benefit of the doubt. Chik Fil A has done the same song and dance, then later it turns out it was donating to the same kinds of groups.
Only recently were they donating to group like:
Focus on the Family(hate group)
Fellowship of Christian Athletes (Anti-LGBT propaganda aimed at kids)
Chick-fil-A is one of the only large American companies that still refuses to include explicit protections against discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity in its employment non-discrimination policy- ThinkProgress
Paul Anderson Youth Home(Anti-LGBT propaganda aimed at kids)
Stop stanning for this org. There's no reason they won't try to secretly donate to more anti-LGBT hate groups, or are right now.
Only recently were they donating to group like:
Focus on the Family(hate group)
Fellowship of Christian Athletes (Anti-LGBT propaganda aimed at kids)
Chick-fil-A is one of the only large American companies that still refuses to include explicit protections against discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity in its employment non-discrimination policy- ThinkProgress
Paul Anderson Youth Home(Anti-LGBT propaganda aimed at kids)
Stop stanning for this org. There's no reason they won't try to secretly donate to more anti-LGBT hate groups, or are right now.
By work we have Chikfila and Burger King. No one in line at BK yet food takes forever and is sometimes room temp or old fries. And then of course always a good chance they fuck up your order. Chikfila always lines, but minimal wait for the food, it's usually hot, and never had an order wrong with them.
Or that one dude who says his lesbian daughters eat there and then make pro-lgbtq donations. Queer people can make terrible choices that have negative consequences on their own community. I've seen it first hand with racism and bigotry in the Chicago queer community.
I think it also helps that their stores are incredibly busy, and therefore the food doesn't spend a long time sitting around. When you get chicken nuggets at Wendy's, most of the time it tastes like it has been sitting under a heat lamp for 45 minutes. Chick-Fil-A is generally pretty fresh, which is really important for fried food.
A progressive website like this shouldn't require its users to find and ignore bigoted content/users. They should be taking care of that for us with bans or notices at the very least.
My dude, are you suggesting people get banned for eating a chicken sandwich
You can't just say the word "Whataboutism" as if it's a rock solid argument when people point out that other companies donate to the same anti LGBTQA+ non-profits.
Nobody demands posters get banned when they talk about an Amazon Black Friday sale or say they like the new Google Pixel.
Nobody demands posters get banned when they talk about an Amazon Black Friday sale or say they like the new Google Pixel.
You are calling me a bigot for thinking that people shouldn't automatically be labeled 'pieces of trash' for eating at Chick-fil-A? You know nothing about me apart from that one fact. You don't know that, in some respects, I might've led a much less privileged life than you have: from having been raised in a very poor, shitty wooden house in rural Puerto Rico, to having lived through a Category 4 Hurricane that left me and my loved ones without running water and power for 3 months. You don't know what I've done to make a positive difference in other people's lives. What you're essentially saying is that even if you did know about all those things, that one fact about myself (that I don't think it's fair to label people irredeemable trash for their unethical consumption) is the overriding factor in deeming me a bigot? Really...? It's not dismissive to question whether it makes sense to label ("without exception") people "pieces of trash" for the fast food they consume. You're labeling and dismissing as irredeemable trash millions of otherwise good people based on one data point alone. If that can't be challenged or questioned, what the fuck can be?
And to be clear, it *is* dismissive and insensitive to pop into a thread, ignore all the ongoing discussion, and simply post "I love Chick-fil-A," but that's not what I'm doing.
I think CFA gets an advantage due to all the bias built up against red meat. That said, their chicken is simply better quality then a lot of the fast food competition, at least in the chicken category. They still inject it with sodium and shit to make it juicier and their breading/sauces are nothing to brag about, but the texture of the chicken makes it taste real and the impression it is healthier because it is white meat goes a long way.
I do not eat fast food mainly cause of the highly processed oils and MSG used.
I do not think most people know about or care about the politics. I am not sure what to think about the politics. I eat, I am certain, factory farmed meat even though I think it is a practice that should be ended due to environmental impact. I never really looked into it, regardless I cannot afford to spend extra money every week on meat atm. If I could I would upgrade to grass fed/finished beef and organic/uncaged chicken, etc..
I do not eat fast food mainly cause of the highly processed oils and MSG used.
I do not think most people know about or care about the politics. I am not sure what to think about the politics. I eat, I am certain, factory farmed meat even though I think it is a practice that should be ended due to environmental impact. I never really looked into it, regardless I cannot afford to spend extra money every week on meat atm. If I could I would upgrade to grass fed/finished beef and organic/uncaged chicken, etc..
Wait a minute, So now we are bigots because we go to chic-fil-A to eat? We talk about whataboutism but companies like apple and google deserve more backlash because of there practises and you can't claim "whataboutism" just to turn around and call people that eat at chic fil a bigots. I for one didn't read any of the replies until after i posted my response cause the thread title clearly asked what is special about chic-fil A and not if i support bigots.
the Stranger spoke on the hypocrisy of people opposing Chick Fil A but still giving business to other businesses
Its obscenely overrated. Anyone who says otherwise is just plain wrong or doesn't know what a good chicken sandwich tastes like.
Yikes, should have googled her first. I felt that she was safe because of the publication she works at (The Stranger)
It is by far the most profitable fast food restaurant by location. Partly due to the real, fresh chicken and also because each franchise owner can only have a single restaurant causing them to have greater attention to detail. The lines are often around the restaurant, but their efficiency has to be 2-3x other fast food places so the line moves quickly. I have also never once had an order be incorrect.
I believe they are now 3rd overall in total revenue behind only McDonalds and Starbucks. However they are like 22nd in number of locations.
Every time I drive past one I at least get some nuggets. By far my favorite fast food place. So much so I hardly even group them into fast food discussions.
Their new Mac and Cheese is great too
**Also, people need to get over boycotting places based on what their administration chooses to donate to (Salvation Army and FCA). Every Chik-fil-a restaurant is willing to serve anybody who walks through the door. If we all boycotted businesses with administrators we disagreed with we would have a fractured society with businesses for the left and businesses for the right.
I believe they are now 3rd overall in total revenue behind only McDonalds and Starbucks. However they are like 22nd in number of locations.
Every time I drive past one I at least get some nuggets. By far my favorite fast food place. So much so I hardly even group them into fast food discussions.
Their new Mac and Cheese is great too
**Also, people need to get over boycotting places based on what their administration chooses to donate to (Salvation Army and FCA). Every Chik-fil-a restaurant is willing to serve anybody who walks through the door. If we all boycotted businesses with administrators we disagreed with we would have a fractured society with businesses for the left and businesses for the right.
Last edited:
Wild concept, but one can point out that their service is above most in many regions (not everyone has Raising Canes or a lot of other regional places) while also recognizing and condemning their bullshit. CFA wouldn't even be on the radar if places like Popeyes can get their act together on the service end.
I think those who just come in with just praise are tone deaf to much of the community here, but there is also a ton of leeway given to other companies for obvious reasons despite them donating to similar organizations and having other problematic issues.
Again, fuck CFA, but hopefully more companies take from them the stuff that works as a service and incorporate them to make CFA irrelevant.
I think those who just come in with just praise are tone deaf to much of the community here, but there is also a ton of leeway given to other companies for obvious reasons despite them donating to similar organizations and having other problematic issues.
Again, fuck CFA, but hopefully more companies take from them the stuff that works as a service and incorporate them to make CFA irrelevant.
To address these points:
CFA is in a very specific situation where they not only donate to SA like other companies do, they donate to even worse organizations. They also score a zero on the Human Rights Campaign Foundation's Corporate Equality Index which those other companies do not do. On top of that, the President of the company has come out and said bigoted shit.
This is all in your face bigoted bullshit that isn't the same as those other things. Other companies do shitty things too, however, and we should definitely talk about those companies. That should be done in threads about those companies and not used to deflect that CFA is shitty.
Adding another quote for the remainder of this post:
The people being called shitty is literally the bolded part. You may not have done that, but you are downplaying and handwaving CFA's actions.
The constant flow of these threads made in order for people to prove how little they care about LGBT rights compared to a sandwich is really shitty for a supposed progressive forum where LGBT people are supposed to feel welcome.
We keep getting these threads so people can freely talk about how yummy the food is, and how wonderfully behaved the workers are. I for one, am not shy in bringing these threads back down to earth. Fuck that bullshit. I care more about the feelings of the LGBT community on this forum than I do about the feelings of the CFA fans who would like a safe space to ignore what the company tries to do to LGBT people around the world.
End of the day, eat where ever you want. The moment you make or post in a thread about how great the food is (it isn't) or how other places should emulate them in any manner, I'll be in the thread letting you know that by doing so, you are sending a clear message. If you want to talk about other shitty companies you are free to do so in threads about those companies. Whataboutism isn't a bullet-proof argument or whatever people said above, but it definitely is something that applies here. Even if all those companies did exactly what CFA does, including the terrible comments by their CEOs/Presidents, it still would not change that CFA DOES do those things, and the thread is about them. The only reason to bring them up, is to take the heat away from CFA.
To reiterate my point:
Praising the good parts of a company is whatever. The amount of CFA threads lately, all designed to try to downplay their bigoted actions or to praise them, is eyebrow raising to say the least. Especially considering the shit the LGBT community deals with around here.
I tried it once a few years back in Orlando International Food Court after hearing rave reviews about it, it was fine enough a tasty chicken sandwich but I felt it was only on par with or slightly below chicken fillet burgers in pretty much any English fried chicken shop (and believe me we have hundreds)
Weirdly I've always found American fast food to be worse than the English counterparts even though they are American franchises, probably just down to what we are used to though
Weirdly I've always found American fast food to be worse than the English counterparts even though they are American franchises, probably just down to what we are used to though
Dunno why you quoted me. Just seems like you decided to mass quote instead of responding to one person or the thread? w.e