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  • Oct 25, 2017
    41,368
    Miami, FL
    Megan Thee Fury et al.

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    www.nytimes.com

    Unequal treatment (Published 2007)

    Harriet Washington investigates the exploitation of African-Americans in medical research.

    You all can do well to spend some time in this book. It should be considered required reading for those who want to know more about what has happened to people of color in the past AND present. This will provide the requisite context for the real, on-going fears in the community regarding healthcare and unequal care for people of color. Tweets are nice, but it doesn't compare with 522 pages of straight, researched talk. Unequal treatment from healthcare professionals is not imagined; it ls real, demonstrable, measurable, and has result in the deaths and injuries of countless people of color.



    Medical Apartheid: The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black Americans from Colonial Times to the Present: Washington, Harriet A.: 9780767915472: Amazon.com: Books

    Medical Apartheid: The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black Americans from Colonial Times to the Present [Washington, Harriet A.] on Amazon.com. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. Medical Apartheid: The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black Americans from Colonial Times...

    You can also find it in your local library.
     
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    Threadmark 2! He's dropping facts!
  • Oct 25, 2017
    41,368
    Miami, FL
    Stories like this are where the mistrust comes from. Just one example of so very many.

    www.npr.org

    N.C. Considers Paying Forced Sterilization Victims

    Barely 40 years ago, more than half of U.S. states had eugenics laws that made it legal for states to sterilize people against their will. North Carolina is now considering compensating those victims. On Wednesday, a state panel heard from some who were mostly poor, uneducated — and often just...

    www.npr.org

    A Brutal Chapter In North Carolina's Eugenics Past

    One county sterilized more people than any other, partially because the head of welfare believed it was a good option for women at a time when abortion was illegal and the birth control pill didn't yet exist. But in the context of an ugly eugenics campaign, serious questions remain over whether...


    My father is an ER physician. He could go on all day with stories about how he saw his white counterparts treating black patients differently in real fuckin time.

    The point isn't that the vaccine here is unsafe; it's that a long-established and deep-seeded mistrust for the healthcare system due to decades of abuse and poorly delivered care may impact people's decision-making with regard to getting said vaccine. To their detriment.

    After Tuskegee I can't blame any black person that doesn't trust doctors especially for early/experimental treatment.


    Outreach is definitely essential and as the tweets mentioned if the medical system doesn't work to improve then it could be even worse next pandemic.
    If you can make time for any portion of the book I linked (threadmarked), you'll see just how deep the rabbit hole of experimentation on people of color goes. That was just one of thousands of instances. Think how researchers treat lab rats; but with...you know...actual humans instead of lab rats. Surgeries where pain medications were purposefully left out, risky medical trials testing being offered in poor communities, intentionally poor care from birth to death.

    Hell, quite a few surgical techniques were perfected on slaves because they couldn't say no. Including the hysterectomy, as I recall. Perfected by white doctors on black bodies who were awake and alive for the procedures. And again, pain medications were unnecessary because lol slaves.
     
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    More proof!!!
  • Hollywood Duo

    Member
    Oct 25, 2017
    42,329
    Sounds a lot like anti-vaxxers not getting shots for their kids because they know some kid that developed autism.

    Obviously there is an abhorrent history 40-50 years ago and beyond but you're wilfully ignoring science if this is your reasoning to avoid it in the modern age. Statistically speaking, you're a demographic facing the most risk due to socio-economic factors at some point you need to take ownership and weigh the risk v reward.
    50 years ago huh?

    www.statnews.com

    Black children are more likely to die after surgery than white counterparts, new study finds

    Even among apparently healthy children, Black patients are almost 3.5 times more likely to die within a month after surgery than white patients, according to a new study.
     
    Pretty much
  • Spinluck

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    Avenger
    Oct 26, 2017
    28,611
    Chicago
    French Doctors: let's use poor Africans as test subjects since they will likely die of hunger or some other disease

    Anyone Black: I don't trust these white folk

    White People: I don't know why anyone would be weary of medical practices
     
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  • krazen

    Member
    Oct 27, 2017
    13,324
    Gentrified Brooklyn
    Sounds a lot like anti-vaxxers not getting shots for their kids because they know some kid that developed autism.

    Obviously there is an abhorrent history 40-50 years ago and beyond but you're wilfully ignoring science if this is your reasoning to avoid it in the modern age. Statistically speaking, you're a demographic facing the most risk due to socio-economic factors at some point you need to take ownership and weigh the risk v reward.

    40-50 years ago?

    newyork.cbslocal.com

    'It's Disgusting, It's Inhumane': Fathers Who Lost Partners To Pregnancy Complications Shine Light On Medical Disparities For Black Women

    In the United States, Black mothers are three times more likely to die in childbirth compared to white mothers. In New York City, that number increases to eight times.

    While yes, Vaccines are safe, kinda can't get mad at a demographic not trusting the medical establishment that they have hard proof has intentionally fucked them over. This is on the medical establishment, not on them
     
    Two conversations! Good idea
  • Royalan

    I can say DEI; you can't.
    Moderator
    Oct 24, 2017
    12,115
    Ultimately, I think there are two different conversations going on here. Or, at least, two different conversations that need to happen, depending on who you're talking to.

    There's the conversation framed for Black people that seeks to dispel the myths, stigmas, and conspiracies around the COVID-19 vaccines. This form of the conversation isn't really focused on regurgitating historical Black trauma at the hands of the medical community, because most Black people already have some level of awareness of this. And, as some have pointed out, it would be counter-productive.

    Then there's the conversation framed for non-Black people who are completely unaware of where that distrust in the Black community comes from in the first place, and might assume that Black people are operating from some unique form of selfishness. An often-banged drum is that Black history is history, and it isn't taught enough. That much is clear. I think that conversation is where all the history lessons are coming from.

    I think both conversations are important.
     
    Information on the vaccine trials!
  • Boondocks

    Member
    Nov 30, 2020
    2,686
    NE Georgia USA
    If anyone needs some info, this page is an update on the Pfizer/BionNTech vaccine study.

    Coronavirus COVID-19 Vaccine Update: Latest Developments | Pfizer

    See how Pfizer and BioNTech are leveraging decades of scientific expertise together to develop, test and manufacture a mRNA vaccine to help prevent COVID-19.
    Hopefully the FDA will release their findings after approval and we can see a more balanced report.