There's also just a lot of generic "benevolent" sexism. https://www.bustle.com/articles/131...sm-that-are-just-as-harmful-as-hostile-sexism
I'm not saying it's as bad as P4 or P5, it's worse there, but even in P3 it's smattered throughout.
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There's also just a lot of generic "benevolent" sexism. https://www.bustle.com/articles/131...sm-that-are-just-as-harmful-as-hostile-sexism
I'm not saying it's as bad as P4 or P5, it's worse there, but even in P3 it's smattered throughout.
AH right forgot. The beach scenes always get ya.
I still think you can show boys being idiots about girls without it being sexist, but the beach scene is definitely bad all around.
I'd love for a game to handle things like what my gf and her friends say for once. If half the things my gf says about Ryan Reynolds made it into a game script it'd get interesting really quick
The mandatory romance for the female S.Links when playing as a boy is atrocious, made worse by the reasoning behind it ("we couldn't imagine friendship between a boy and a girl"). They didn't even bother to change that in P3P, so MasC is still terrible! I wouldn't be able to play P3 without FeMC.
The dating / relationships in these games are couched in parochial, backwards nonsense for the majority of their discourse. They are caricatures of human relationships.
At least a fair amount of that comes from gamifying the relationship, which is why it so often comes off as pick-up artist garbage.
Of P3-P5, my favorite female cast is no question P5 but god damn the whole way the narrative treats Ann's body is so obnoxious. I'm already dreading Kasumi's portrayal and her outfit.
I know this would never happen but if you're going to have horny characters make them at least college students. So sick of schoolgirl sexualization bullshit.
I know this would never happen but if you're going to have horny characters make them at least college students. So sick of schoolgirl sexualization bullshit.
And even worse, they refuse to acknowledge the FeMC to the point where they refused to put her in the dancing games because "canon" but was fine with going back in time to resurrect dead people for other cameos. Basically we got Q2 and that has been it.
I understand a certain level of caricature is needed for game scripts to work. As much as I'd aspire for "realism" in relationships with characters most characters with basic motivations can't even get 100% well written, let alone an intimate relationship being written typically by people who aren't used to them or in them for the most part.
But I still enjoy finding fictional characters I like and attaching my character to them in whatever form that takes if they're a personality I find endearing or likeable. Maybe I've got a bad perception of it because I'm in a relationship and we both enjoy dating mechanics (she loves Chrom/P3P/etc) but I see "characters" usually as just a set of personality traits attached to an either attractive or unattractive design. So maybe my perception is different than others.
I'm just saying we could build on it and have more/better versions in the future. For all parties involved.
I honestly blame Hashino for that. As soon he's out of the picture, FeMC makes a triumphant return.
I seriously think he had a hand - or rather, a whole arm - in keeping FeMC out of the series.
They're already fetishizing Kasumi's legs and flexibility, so we're in for a trip. I'm fearing she has a creepy devotion to the protagonist.
Dating in Persona games isn't even fun. You say "I love you," spend time in your room and that's it. It doesn't exist outside of the S. Link. Even some stuff like Mementos dialogue that pops up when you've romanced someone would make it more worthwhile.
Maybe I've misremembered then. I could have sworn it was each jump in SLink rank attached to dialogue/going out someplace with dialogue options and the like but maybe I'm forgetting. Apologies!
In my heart, she will always be canon and the true leader of SEES.
I really hate how Atlus has treated her all these years. At least they seem to be correcting themselves with PQ2. Time will tell if she will continue appearing).
Besides the other issues people have mentioned, I also want to mention how Atlus is allergic to Female Protagonists. It reeks of sexism. Not surprising considering how they view LGBTQ+ people.
It's a definite problem though certainly not the only JRPG series where this happens. Dragon Quest hasn't had a female protagonist since DQ4, Final Fantasy has only done it twice across 30 years of mainline titles, it took Tales 20 years, etc.
DQ 9 and 10 had customizable protagonists who could be female. Although it's true they've dropped gender choices outside of those two cases that had full character creation systems.
Agree about this. And if there is the option of selecting a male and female protagonist, if they adapt the game into other media like Fate/Extra and Fate/Grand Order for example, they go with the male protagonist and ignore the female protagonist.
To think that Phantasy Star series had a female protagonist in the very first game back in 1987.
One of the many ways the game was ahead of its time.
What the usual crowd think people mean when they say Tifa should have more muscle mass:
What people actually mean at most:
What people actually mean at most:
What the usual crowd think people mean when they say Tifa should have more muscle mass:
What people actually mean at most:
I mean...not going to lie the former is also completely acceptable too.
What character is the second one? Looks badass.What the usual crowd think people mean when they say Tifa should have more muscle mass:
What people actually mean at most:
Glad to have you back!
Who's the 2nd chick?What the usual crowd think people mean when they say Tifa should have more muscle mass:
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But yeah, definitely. Or Hanna in Suikoden.
Googling it it seems to be an OC from an artist (that or Lena comes from somewhere but I can't remember where)
In the general sense but for Tifa?
OC by a very talented concept artist. Another hella reasonable design by the same person:
Holy fuck that's good. And yeah they appear to be insanely talented. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks!In the general sense but for Tifa?
OC by a very talented concept artist. Another hella reasonable design by the same person:
A JRPG with her as the character designer would be awesome.
I like when characters seems to have thoughts and feelings outside of the player character and dating mechanics tend to destroy that notion.
The former is fine with meWhat the usual crowd think people mean when they say Tifa should have more muscle mass:
What people actually mean at most:
In the general sense but for Tifa?
OC by a very talented concept artist. Another hella reasonable design by the same person:
I mean her having more of a "gun show" wouldn't be that different since her whole point is that her appearance is supposed to be different from her personality. It'd still be playing against expectations.
In the general sense but for Tifa?
OC by a very talented concept artist. Another hella reasonable design by the same person:
This is beautiful!
I'm conflicted since I like DL's story (except the fact that you can't choose MC gender) but their female designs are all over the place. Like I get it but sometimes I want believable armors/clothes for everyone.
The only positive aspect I can think of is that some of them are wearing pants.
The only positive aspect I can think of is that some of them are wearing pants.
There's an alternate reality where Fire Emblem gets designs as awesome as this.In the general sense but for Tifa?
OC by a very talented concept artist. Another hella reasonable design by the same person:
I wish I was in it.
What the usual crowd think people mean when they say Tifa should have more muscle mass:
What people actually mean at most:
I want Square to announce that they've added extra muscle tone to Tifa's limbs, but the amount is so minimal that you would have to zoom in with a browser extension just to spot the difference.
Even that extremely tiny amount will have people screaming "What have they done you buffed her up like a fucking gorilla!!!"
Course. Bit amusing coming back to see this after just looking at some armor stuff in Dauntless.
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You didn't miss much. Just your run of the mill incel gaslighting, poorly framed statistics, and accusing everyone in this thread of being male white knights protecting the honor of Persephone. lol
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