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Windows Mixed Reality |OT| PC VR on a budget
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Yeah. I think the slow state of VR has only re-enforced he was right. Really love my Vive (now that I've settled into the things I actually like in VR... which is probably outside the norms a bit). But I've always completely agreed with his stance on wireless. It's such a buzz-kill. I get so much more immersion/presence from seated games simply because I hate the cable with a white hot burning passion. There are well known presence multipliers in VR, well wires should create a term called presence divider. Because as far as I'm concerned, it reduces presence by such a dramatic degree that it's crazy.
I think MS are omitting a significant reason/obstacle but they know it internally: even if the One X supported WMR, it doesn't have a big enough installed base to make VR software sales thrive. They shouldn't even consider supporting VR until they have a 20M console installed base. So in 4-5 years the stars should align with wireless VR being mainstream ready and MS's next-gen installed base being 20M strong.
New Samsung Odyssey HMD coming soon.
https://www.roadtovr.com/samsung-odyssey-plus-headset-leaks-fcc-documents/
https://www.roadtovr.com/samsung-odyssey-plus-headset-leaks-fcc-documents/
Really interested in this, if this is solid it may push me over to buying a new GPU for my PC and getting into PCVR. I love my PSVR but I'm absolutely fed up with the tracking being absolute garbage and it being so blurry, not to mention the lack of controls on the move.
The Acer OJO 500 Windows Mixed Reality Headset.
$399. November. US/EU.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/29/...d-reality-headset-features-price-release-date
$399. November. US/EU.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/29/...d-reality-headset-features-price-release-date
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Haven't kept this really up to date, so here's a bunch of info on the HMD Odyssey+, which is an update Samsung's making for the HMD Odyssey. Biggest change (outside of some minor hardware changes like different padding and nose pad shape) is that they're now using some sort of filter on the screen to diffuse light into the area between pixels. Short and long of it is that it'll blur the image a little, but completely eliminate the SDE (screen door effect). Here are some impressions and pictures:
Some more pictures here: https://imgur.com/a/6nD2nwX
Official PR: https://news.samsung.com/us/samsung-hmd-odyssey-plus-mr-mixed-reality/
It's $500 like the last HMD and is available in a bunch of different markets already, including the US. No word on EU support.
Top is Odyssey+ and bottom is original Odyssey. User who posted this said that the decreased vibrancy isn't something to worry about; it's only noticeable when comparing the two headsets back to back, otherwise the Odyssey+ looks plenty vibrant, and even then this picture isn't a true representation of color saturation, just the SDE differences.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/9s1ihi/samsung_odyssey_initial_test_impression_with_robo/
Some more pictures here: https://imgur.com/a/6nD2nwX
Official PR: https://news.samsung.com/us/samsung-hmd-odyssey-plus-mr-mixed-reality/
It's $500 like the last HMD and is available in a bunch of different markets already, including the US. No word on EU support.
Really want to give this a go, wish there was a Microsoft store near me.
It was the one I got. Price is low enough to not get irritated because I don't use it very often. It works. I find it comfortable. I do need to wear my glasses when I use it (didn't expect that)
I've pulled the trigger after doing some research and actually got the headset already. Spend 2-3 hours messing around with it. I'm shocked how seamless, plug and play Windows Mixed Reality is. I just connected the headset, Win10 already started installing the software while I emerged from under the desk, hooks right into Steam VR, BAM, DONE, no BS. Played Redout, can't go back to 2D now. WMR might not be the best VR solution, but it's amazingly convenient and quick to get going.
Yah. Its the most plug and play high end VR solution among all platforms and hardwares
Acer has launched the Acer OJO 500 in India. It is priced at Rs 39,999 and will start shipping from February 2019.
I think we might get announcement at CES regarding the Western market release
https://indianexpress.com/article/t...eadset-price-in-india-specifications-5468808/
I think we might get announcement at CES regarding the Western market release
https://indianexpress.com/article/t...eadset-price-in-india-specifications-5468808/
You don't have to plug the headphones into the headset. The headset audio is just another USB soundcard. You can freely route the audio how you see fit with the Win10 audio systemtray thingy. WMR got an option to auto route audio to the headset upon headphone insertion, but even that can be toggled on/off in the Win10 settings.
Just wanted to put this out there. I'm a fairly large VR user - have the PSVR, Vive and Rift. PSVR has recently been my go-to for the ease of use and quality of games (Astrobot etc etc).
However just has some spare cash and bought the Samsung Odyssey plus. Very impressive - lightweight, comfortable and much sharper image than the 1st gen Vive.
I have tried the Vive Pro but wasn't that impressed - this is much cheaper than that and the inside out tracking worked a lot better than I thought - I'd assumed lighthouses were a must for VR, but am sold on the newer approach.
However just has some spare cash and bought the Samsung Odyssey plus. Very impressive - lightweight, comfortable and much sharper image than the 1st gen Vive.
I have tried the Vive Pro but wasn't that impressed - this is much cheaper than that and the inside out tracking worked a lot better than I thought - I'd assumed lighthouses were a must for VR, but am sold on the newer approach.
None of my PCs or laptops are powerful enough for WMR. My Xbox One X is, but Phil Spencer removed WMR from it right before launch for "reasons". I *really* hope WMR is available on the next Xbox. I just can't justify a new PC or laptop just for VR. Gahhhhh.
WMR Minecraft looks SO cool. Have they fixed the movement? That was the big complaint when it first came out.
WMR Minecraft looks SO cool. Have they fixed the movement? That was the big complaint when it first came out.
PCVR Game Discussion Thread - A New Era of Gaming
For hardware / setup related questions or discussion, please use the SteamVR Hardware thread or the Oculus thread. This is a thread for PCVR users to discuss VR games available on all the compatible platforms (Steam/Oculus/Windows). In the previous incarnation of the thread I tried making a...
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PCVR Game Discussion Thread - A New Era of Gaming
For hardware / setup related questions or discussion, please use the SteamVR Hardware thread or the Oculus thread. This is a thread for PCVR users to discuss VR games available on all the compatible platforms (Steam/Oculus/Windows). In the previous incarnation of the thread I tried making a...
Thanks! I think I was searching for "VR |OT|" which is why it didn't find that.
Next gen Samsung Odyssey might have been leaked. Check out the link for details
Am I missing it, or are there no links in that article? Would have loved to have seen the actual patent (since it must have been a patent for something).
Strange article. I do think I like the pictures (assuming it's anything more than a generic patent mockup). It seems like they returned to a hinge design? And it seems like there's vents on the front? Not sure why this isn't a thing. I don't see why you can't have the actual screens sealed for dust, but still have vents for all the electronics to breathe.
Strange article. I do think I like the pictures (assuming it's anything more than a generic patent mockup). It seems like they returned to a hinge design? And it seems like there's vents on the front? Not sure why this isn't a thing. I don't see why you can't have the actual screens sealed for dust, but still have vents for all the electronics to breathe.
More interesting pictures there (and text if you know Korean).
Reddit is speculating it's using Lighthouse, but I see zero proof at all. Really looks like there's 2 forward facing cameras and then two cameras that look left/right. This would align with the 4 camera MWR revision that's been rumored.
If they're implementing their curved OLED patent (for a higher FOV), they could have a real niche with this. The Vive Pro/Samsung Odysessy/Oculus Quest OLED screens are a couple years old. So it's reasonable to think there could be a resolution/refresh rate bump coming at some point.
O+ seems to be out of stock everywhere except the official Samsung website and they're selling it for 229.99. They have to be clearancing out the old stock.
If they're genuinely close to unveiling the new model (why else get rid of all the stock with this pricing of late), I'm surprised MS didn't just let them unveil things at CES.
If they're genuinely close to unveiling the new model (why else get rid of all the stock with this pricing of late), I'm surprised MS didn't just let them unveil things at CES.
My roommate gave me his old Lenovo Explorer today since he replaced it with the Samsung Odyssey a while back. The Explorer itself is really nice-- I know the FOV is more limited than something like the Odyssey, but the unit is so much more comfortable for long sessions.
That said, the controllers are kind of... eh. I flat-out hate the touchpads, and I wish there were more buttons. Playing something like VRChat with these controllers is really annoying.
What are my options for getting different controllers? I think the Index controllers would work if I were to get the base stations for them, but that's out of my price range for a while. Are there any other alternatives folks suggest?
That said, the controllers are kind of... eh. I flat-out hate the touchpads, and I wish there were more buttons. Playing something like VRChat with these controllers is really annoying.
What are my options for getting different controllers? I think the Index controllers would work if I were to get the base stations for them, but that's out of my price range for a while. Are there any other alternatives folks suggest?
Cheapest option would be to hope the new WMR2 controllers are backwords compatible and you can buy those. There doesn't appear to be any reason they shouldn't be. They're Touch knockoffs and get rid of the dumb trackpad for the Touch layout.
Next Gen HP VR Headset ( Developed in collaboration with Valve and Microsoft)
https://www8.hp.com/us/en/vr/reverb-g2-vr-headset.html https://store.steampowered.com/app/1271440/Next_Gen_HP_VR_Headset/ Developed in collaboration with Valve and Microsoft, the next gen HP VR headset delivers a more immersive, comfortable and compatible experience than the previous...
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We're beyond confirmed at this point. The HP tweet matches perfectly with the leaked photo that exposed the WMR2 controllers. The only question at this point is whether WMR2 NDAs will expire before HP unveils all the G2 info in 46 hours. Could be more headsets waiting for an NDA to expire.
I hadn't seen this, thanks for linking to it. I hope those controllers are sold separately and work with the older WMR headsets. They look a lot better than the current ones.Cheapest option would be to hope the new WMR2 controllers are backwords compatible and you can buy those. There doesn't appear to be any reason they shouldn't be. They're Touch knockoffs and get rid of the dumb trackpad for the Touch layout.
Next Gen HP VR Headset ( Developed in collaboration with Valve and Microsoft)
https://www8.hp.com/us/en/vr/reverb-g2-vr-headset.html https://store.steampowered.com/app/1271440/Next_Gen_HP_VR_Headset/ Developed in collaboration with Valve and Microsoft, the next gen HP VR headset delivers a more immersive, comfortable and compatible experience than the previous...
We're beyond confirmed at this point. The HP tweet matches perfectly with the leaked photo that exposed the WMR2 controllers. The only question at this point is whether WMR2 NDAs will expire before HP unveils all the G2 info in 46 hours. Could be more headsets waiting for an NDA to expire.
In the HP interview with Sebastian, HP confirmed they will be backwards compatible with all WMR Gen 1 HMDs and HP will be selling the controllers separately for people who want to upgrade.
Absolutely perfect. Thanks a lot for pointing this out. I'll probably end up buying a pair.