Aside from Aliens and Terminator most of his movies stories are kinda so so.
Wkd Box Office - 3•22-25•18 - BP retires the title as War Ready Jaegers bring down the Panther.
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You realise the action in RPO was filmed in the exact same way as Avatar, right? With the virtual Simulcam that Cameron and crew invented for Avatar - that Spielberg also used on Tintin.
Cameron and Spielberg actually do all the blocking of the scenes themselves. It's not like they're handing the camera off to a bunch of CG guys.
Ryan Coogler last three movies >> James Cameron last three movies >> Nolan's last three movies >> Spielberg's last three movies
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The Abyss actually has some of Cameron's best writing imo. It certainly has his best characters and performances.
Isn't it like 7:45 in the morning on a Saturday in Australia right now?
Sculli's Cameron-Sense must've been tingling.
You don't check your phone when you first wake up in the morning? :p
Abyss is weird for me. There are really strong parts and others that kind of fall off upon rewatchs.
And it lost all its charm once you watched it at home with no 3D.
Well opinions are a thing, and the directors of the movies you mentioned are all top tier.
You mean a movie that regurgitates a formula that has been done multiple times before?
Am I talking about Avatar or Creed? You be the judge!
The problem with Cameron is that he disappears for so long between films, that people forget what a stellar blockbuster actually looks like. To the point where 'blockbuster' has now been adopted as a term to sub for 'movie that costs a lot of money', instead of 'movie that still causes round-the-block lines and sold-out showings a month after its release.'
Jett. Come on buddy. You should be smarter than this. Pretty much every movie is regurgitating a formula at this point, but that's not a bad thing. That's literally what genres are: formulas. The execution is what matters.
You're missing the fact that what Creed does with it's formula, is pretty astounding. It takes the archetypes and tropes of Rocky, and transplants them into an under-represented point of view. That changes the story up an awful lot.
Ha! Well done.
Rocky is better than Cameron's entire filmography. It shouldn't be too surprising that the modern retelling of that would be better than a middling effort like Avatar.
Yeah, but the allure of Avatar was it's CGI in its time, the worldbuilding, sweeping shots, and while it has action-adventure elements, it's not exactly the same type of action we see from a lot of the MCU movies and the directors some people here are comparing Cameron with. The action from the Russo brothers and other MCU movies really can't be compared to what we see in Avatar. Coogler's form of filming action isn't the same as Cameron's love for huge action sequences in Avatar. Not saying one or the other is better, but it's really different. You can tell Coogler is better at one type of action sequence than another, by comparing the tight Casino fight with the final battle that is a mediocrely shot.
Cameron, viceversa, hasn't done a lot of tightly shot or intimate action scenes in a while, not like Coogler or the Russo brothers have.
RPO has a combination of both, in my opinion, and not just in the virtual world of the movie. We get a surprising amount of action in the real world too. So it's easier to compare it to both Avatar and the MCU.
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p.s. I really like Creed, I'm a huge Rocky fan.
Personally, I thought it really stuck to the Rocky blueprint, and that's why it work as well as it does, unlike some awful garbage like Rocky V.
We all know you love Cameron. But stop doing weird revisionist history or weird revisionist etymology, whichever it is you're doing. From a dictionary.com article (which is so damn publicly accessible and is not from a single readthrough wrong)
It has pretty much from the get-go been a marketing term, and marketing doesn't always adhere 100% to the truth.
And we still get genuine box office phenomena like Black Panther, which is deserving of it's blockbuster status.
Too true. I'll only say one more thing on the subject, and that's what we're all thinking.
Fuck James Francis Cameron and his stupid little submarines.
Absolutely.
The D-Day sequence in Saving Private Ryan is better than anything Cameron has done.
RPO> Nolan's last 3 movies (okay maybe not Dunkirk).
Rocky better than Aliens and T1? Hell naw.
Your article proves my point. It has to do with how much a film should make. Not how much money is put into a film.
My point wasn't that BP isn't a blockbuster. My point is that these days you have people calling movies with high budgets that end up bombing blockbusters.
Coogler is a damned good director, but I'd say action is probably not his strongest area. Joss Whedon is a servicable director, but works because he works what audiences want to see.
James Cameron is better than both and I don't even really like Avatar.
Lord no. He's definitely up there, but the best? I think Bay is stronger when he's not shooting Transformers films. Cameron is up there and he's one of the longest in the game, because John McTiernan flamed out due to legal troubles. Miller made it look effortless in Fury Road and other Mad Max films. I'd probably put Takashi Miike up there. There's also a solid next level that includes directors who specialize in other things, but can direct great action: Spielberg, JJ Abrams, Ridley Scott, Tarantino, Kathryn Bigelow, Edgar Wright. Gareth Evans has to show me if The Raid and Raid 2 are all he's got.
Lord save us from these takes. Spielberg been slumming it so long that folks have forgotten how good he can be when he's not doing serious dramas.
James Cameron is better than both and I don't even really like Avatar.
Lord no. He's definitely up there, but the best? I think Bay is stronger when he's not shooting Transformers films. Cameron is up there and he's one of the longest in the game, because John McTiernan flamed out due to legal troubles. Miller made it look effortless in Fury Road and other Mad Max films. I'd probably put Takashi Miike up there. There's also a solid next level that includes directors who specialize in other things, but can direct great action: Spielberg, JJ Abrams, Ridley Scott, Tarantino, Kathryn Bigelow, Edgar Wright. Gareth Evans has to show me if The Raid and Raid 2 are all he's got.
Lord save us from these takes. Spielberg been slumming it so long that folks have forgotten how good he can be when he's not doing serious dramas.
We are going to have to disagree on this one. While the D Day invasion had a ton of moving parts in no way is it close to the feats of what Cameron did with Titanic(overated movie but technically amazing) or Avatar.
Cameron can make a better overall film, but Bay is amazing when it comes to action.
Oh now Bay is a better action director than Cameron? I gotta get out of this thread.
Bay can't even make explosions exciting anymore.
Bay can't even make explosions exciting anymore.
Spielberg is a better director not even close, but when it comes to implementing effects and pioneering film techniques Cameron is the best.
Absolute nonsense. Jurassic Park? Saving Private Ryan? ET? Close Encounters?
Dude's been at the forefront of film technology and artistry for his entire career.
Hes been at the top, but Cameron has stepped above the top and set new standards.
Are you honestly going to say Speilberg was just as responsible for the CGI in Jurrasic Park, as Cameron was the 3D techniques and cameras used to make avatar?
Sure if you intentionally leave out the bit about how it's been (deceptively) used as a marketing tool from pretty much the get go.
People forget that JP wouldn't have been possible if Cameron didn't make both The Abyss and T2 beforehand.
Let me just state this thread has made me into a Cameron defender and I hate it.
This plus the Avatar love..... i dunno Sculli. It might be time to turn in your film buff card.
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