The faster it sheds screens the faster it makes room for more screensIf the demand were there it wouldn't be shedding screens faster than Infinity War.
Can we now go back to mocking Godzilla and prepping for Dark Phoenix to bomb?
The faster it sheds screens the faster it makes room for more screensIf the demand were there it wouldn't be shedding screens faster than Infinity War.
Can we now go back to mocking Godzilla and prepping for Dark Phoenix to bomb?
I'm saying if they would schedule for it to be rereleased it would be in a date that doesn't conflicts with there other movies, and I would expect a re-release a Avengers Endgame to at least be profitable"later"
When?
"less in theaters"
What is less? When?
"extra money so wouldn't be meaningless"
How much do you it costs to for them to put the movie back in theaters and how much would you expect it to make on a re-rerelease?
Yes it is over. 2nd place isn't bad for EndgameAugust would be a nice re-release / expansion window, culminating with one last push by Labor Day. But some just don't want to even entertain the idea of that happening for ~reasons~. :)
I won't waste my time because it is over. Pack it up guys, give up Disney, it's dead Jim.
I'm saying if they would schedule for it to be rereleased it would be in a date that doesn't conflicts with there other movies, and I would expect a re-release a Avengers Endgame to at least be profitable
There's a very real chance that Aquaman ends up as one of their 5 highest grossing movies this calendar year and potentially the only one in the top 5 not released under New Line.What is it with WB this year and all these soft openings? After 2018, a year where they couldn't miss, they have solid but unspectacular openings for LEGO 2, Shazam, Detective Pikachu and now Godzilla KOTM.
I think that Endgame casting a long shadow at the box office can explain some of the soft numbers but not all. I think WB will see Shazam's numbers as win but DP (finishing over $400m worldwide) could he harder to look upon as favourable even if they were the minority financier.
If Godzilla 2 has similar legs to Godzilla 2014 and finishes under $100m domestic that would be a disaster especially as they try and drum up interest for GvK next year.
Neither these films are what Endgame or Avatar are. But it's a fool's errand to keep engaging on these arguments. Endgame is still in theaters, it is still playing and it's estimated $74m away of Avatar. It has been barely a month, other than the drama, I've enjoyed the run a lot, and it's clear that it's far from over.Reissues of event films in theaters pulled in money like 7 years ago when they could slap 3D onto it and bring in more cash. But a reminder of just how big some reissues of other beloved event films have gone in the last few years:
And that Dark Knight gross was piggybacking off Dark Knight Rises too.
But your data is usually inaccurate or fails to take in the bigger scope of things
See, this is why you get dunked on.Neither these films are what Endgame or Avatar are. But it's a fool's errand to keep engaging on these arguments. Endgame is still in theaters, it is still playing and it's estimated $74m away of Avatar. It has been barely a month, other than the drama, I've enjoyed the run a lot, and it's clear that it's far from over.
Tracking says $70MWhat numbers are we expecting SLOP 2 to open at? The first one somehow made $880 Million worldwide. Is this one looking to be in the same ball park, lower or higher?
There's a very real chance that Aquaman ends up as one of their 5 highest grossing movies this calendar year and potentially the only one in the top 5 not released under New Line.
Man Who Doesn't Realize It's Already Over said:It has been barely a month, other than the drama, I've enjoyed the run a lot, and it's clear that it's far from over.
When it is running im circles and dealing in absolutes, it's non-sense. I have said time and time again that even if Endgame doesn't top Avatar, it still is making a spectacular run. Calling it now that it's over is premature, and I expect the actuals that are coming later today to keep proving that. Discussions that run in circles are absolutely not enjoyable for me. Have fun tho.You also post predictions and people challenge those predictions, whats wrong with that.
First I'm not expecting a rerelease to make much but I'm also not expecting the gap to be much etherOkay, but again
When is that date? You can look at their box office schedule same as everyone else. Tell me when that magical date is.
Do you have any idea how much re-releases typically make?
Disney got tired of Illumination hurting their legs so they came with sledgehammers for Illumination's legs.Tracking says $70M
It won't make $880M worldwide with Toy Story 4 and The Lion King consuming all the oxygen.
Here's the thing man. You keep moving goal posts and use "it's part of tracking box office" to justify it. No one has an issue with you in other threads (I assume) it's just what you say in here it seems.I swore for my own sanity that I won't be entering in pointless arguments and drama here. Endgame can still get a re-release. I still think it can top Avatar.
My 2 cents. Now you can go back to the dunking thread or the Cameron thread or whatever these threads are nowadays. I will just post data, my opinion and that's it.
This is the first time (or one of the few) that a Pixar movie is going to cut the legs out from under Illumination. Usually it is the other way around. Usually Illumination comes in about two to three weeks after Pixar, and this time SLoP2 is gonna have two weekend to itself before Toy Story comes in and steamrolls everything.Tracking says $70M
It won't make $880M worldwide with Toy Story 4 and The Lion King consuming all the oxygen.
The deal with WB and Toho supposedly ends in 2020, so Kong vs Godzilla is likely the last one either way. Unless this movie and KvG were huge hits, they likely were not gonna renew that contract.
First I'm not expecting a rerelease to make much but I'm also not expecting the gap to be much ether
Second I don't know the schedule for all the Disney releases but I'd imagine they'd have room next year or this year, like they don't release big box office smash hits every two weeks, some of there movies are going to end up underperforming
I have come to terms that I "get dunked on" because I "get dunked on", even not posting on the thread. I disagree with the assessment, it's my opinion, because these films unlike Endgame, Avatar and Titanic aren't really as big of a box office draw. Stop trying to make me feel guilty for thinking differently than you. It's not an argument to win. Endgame will have a re-release if Disney decides so. If we can't even entertain the discussion without people calling it completely unreasonable, let's discuss I don't know, Godzilla.But your data is usually inaccurate or fails to take in the bigger scope of things
See, this is why you get dunked on.
You say shit like "I will just post data" and then when someone posts data that contradicts your stance you default to "but that data doesnt matter because Avengers has magical movie dust sprinkled on it"
Again, any time someone counters you with raw data you reply with "pure magic" and then shift the goal posts because you refuse to even look at the possibility that you might be wrong. What are you going to do when the actuals reaffirm what everyone else has been saying?Calling it now that it's over is premature, and I expect the actuals that are coming later today to keep proving that.
Would be a shame because KOTM teases a lot of future potential.
Speaking of running in circles, this is the same argument you have tried a few times.When it is running im circles and dealing in absolutes, it's non-sense. I have said time and time again that even if Endgame doesn't top Avatar, it still is making a spectacular run. Calling it now that it's over is premature, and I expect the actuals that are coming later today to keep proving that. Discussions that run in circles are absolutely not enjoyable for me. Have fun tho.
I think Zatt is giving up on the box office threads here. Not trying to stay on a thread I don't feel welcome.
Nah. I like to talk box office, I will keep sharing data, just like I've been doing when I can. I'm just done with the banter and the arguments. They are to me pointless. I want to enjoy talking about box office, it's simple. When I can, I will. I'm happy with my daily updates and sharing data when I can.Speaking of running in circles, this is the same argument you have tried a few times.
Im sure they wanted to keep the door open for potential more movies but with how these are doing I doubt they will renew the contract.
Maybe they do an IW/Endgame double feature with some special footage but even that probably wouldn't make up the difference.
All of the unresolved threads in KotM are clearly there to be resolved in Kong vs Godzilla. Spoilers:Would be a shame because KOTM teases a lot of future potential.
What does this have to do with the conversation of whether fury road is overrated?Fury Road made about half as much money as Ant-Man 2 at the box office. It may shit on all the MCU movies from a great height in terms of quality as you say, but it failed at the very basic level of convincing people to go to the theaters and watch it.
Neither these films are what Endgame or Avatar are. But it's a fool's errand to keep engaging on these arguments. Endgame is still in theaters, it is still playing and it's estimated $74m away of Avatar. It has been barely a month, other than the drama, I've enjoyed the run a lot, and it's clear that it's far from over.
All of the unresolved threads in KotM are clearly there to be resolved in Kong vs Godzilla. Spoilers:
You can't exactly have Godzilla and Kong kill each other, they are too bankable. Hence, Mecha-Ghidorah.
Yeah, that $1000 or less that screen would get over 6 hours would be a great idea for theaters. They could cram 2 screenings of Lion King or even Dora since it is out in August and pull in more money.I'm sure theaters would love to book nearly six-hour showings for a movie that people have largely stopped being interested in watching, instead of giving that slot to multiple showings of The Lion King or whatever.
ZattMurdock I'm sure I speak for a lot of people here when I say that we want you to be in these threads and discuss things with us. But, like, dude, you perpetuate a lot of the endless discussion and arguments because you have a long history of doubling down, dipping into the hyperbole well, and shifting the goal posts when it's becoming obvious that you are wrong about something. People have been using the actuals to show that Endgame has been falling off at a faster rate than Infinity War did and that Endgame surpassing Avatar has become less and less likely with each passing day, and all you do is backpedal and say that something that boils down to "well this week the actuals will be different" and give zero evidence as to why there's going to be a sudden resurgence in Endgame viewership.Nah. I like to talk box office, I will keep sharing data, just like I've been doing when I can. I'm just done with the banter and the arguments. They are to me pointless. I want to enjoy talking about box office, it's simple. When I can, I will. I'm happy with my daily updates and sharing data when I can.
Excuse me for not memorizing there entire movie schedule but I think it's kind of ridiculous to assume that there's no room in the next couple years to re-release one of there biggest box office success, if you're going to give me attitude for having the audacity to assuming that Multi Billion dollar company can schedule a rerelease then I have nothing more to say to youTheir entire schedule for the next five years is out there. If you can't be bothered to do the bare minimum research before posting, maybe you shouldn't post.
I hope not, I've really enjoyed these movies
no to August because of late run Lion King.Excuse me for not memorizing there entire movie schedule but I think it's kind of ridiculous to assume that there's no room in the next couple years to re-release one of there biggest box office success, if you're going to give me attitude for having the audacity to assuming that Multi Billion dollar company can schedule a rerelease then I have nothing more to say to you
And yeah looking at the schedule
Late August 2019
Ant time in September 2019
Early October 2019
Any time in January 2020
Any time in February 2020
Early March 2020
Early July 2020
And August and October 2020 are times I can see a rerelease possible, and that's just looking at the next 2 years
Late August will have the tail end of Hobbs and Shaw playing. Early September has IT Chapter 2 opening, which is going to be big.Excuse me for not memorizing there entire movie schedule but I think it's kind of ridiculous to assume that there's no room in the next couple years to re-release one of there biggest box office success, if you're going to give me attitude for having the audacity to assuming that Multi Billion dollar company can schedule a rerelease then I have nothing more to say to you
And yeah looking at the schedule
Late August 2019
Ant time in September 2019
Early October 2019
Any time in January 2020
Any time in February 2020
Early March 2020
Early July 2020
And August and October 2020 are times I can see a rerelease possible, and that's just looking at the next 2 years
Excuse me for not memorizing there entire movie schedule but I think it's kind of ridiculous to assume that there's no room in the next couple years to re-release one of there biggest box office success, if you're going to give me attitude for having the audacity to assuming that Multi Billion dollar company can schedule a rerelease then I have nothing more to say to you
And yeah looking at the schedule
Late August 2019
Ant time in September 2019
Early October 2019
Any time in January 2020
Any time in February 2020
Early March 2020
Early July 2020
And August and October 2020 are times I can see a rerelease possible, and that's just looking at the next 2 years
What does this have to do with the conversation of whether fury road is overrated?
Great movies don't always get people to come out in droves for them. By that same standard, Booksmart is hot garbage because it only made ~14M. The simple truth of the Box Office is that results are generally separate from the actual quality of a film.
Joker should open fairly big I expect but I also bet that it will be a profoundly unpleasant film (think Hangover 3) and that its legs will be shit.I think Joker gets in there but I do see your point. New Line has something like 9 releases this year which doesn't seem like that much of a stretch given that the new head of WB, Toby Emmerich, used to run New Line having been there before it was absorbed into Warners proper.
I think that IT Chapter 2 will do even better than the first film as it basically has the first three weeks of September all to itself.
All I said was that I assume Disney can find a date, it's not an outlandish assumption, heck it's more outlandish to think they can'tI'm not expecting you to memorize Disney's schedule. However, if you're coming into a thread to talk about a re-release I expect you to have put in the effort looking at their box office schedule close enough to be able to talk intelligently about the subject. If you haven't put in that leg work, don't be surprised when you get called out for it here.
And Disney+ as well, because you know they are going to use it as an incentive to get people on that service.There's basically no window from now until, like, roughly February where Disney could re-release Avengers that wouldn't be either stepping on the toes of one of their other movies or running head first into a major new release that would overshadow it. And by then Endgame is going to be available on Bluray, so the appeal of going to a theater to see it is even further diminished.
Still not understanding the point. Good movies do poorly and bad movies do well.It doesn't. I didn't like the Marvel jab and I was responding to that.
True, but a failure to resonate with the target audience is in my opinion indicative of some sort of fault.
There's basically no window from now until, like, roughly February where Disney could re-release Avengers that wouldn't be either stepping on the toes of one of their other movies or running head first into a major new release that would overshadow it. And by then Endgame is going to be available on Bluray, so the appeal of going to a theater to see it is even further diminished.