Drop the idea of "residuals" and just pay for the job up front.
Bonus: You don't have to deal with Hollywood accounting.
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WSJ: Scarlett Johansson Sues Disney Over ‘Black Widow’ Streaming Release
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Drop the idea of "residuals" and just pay for the job up front.
Bonus: You don't have to deal with Hollywood accounting.
Who knows. If Deadpool comes into the mainstream movies, it could create issues? I think he'd get over it or should, anyway, tbh.
Who gives a shit what her doofus irrelevant ex husband has to say? She is 100% entitled to the money and will get it.
The mental gymnastics to defend **the corporation** over workers in this thread is embarrassing.
If Delta variant makes the box office comeback take longer than expected I will be interested to see what happens.
Hypothetically you can bet that if they had to do a day and date Disney+ on Dr. Strange 2 they will absolutely renegotiate with Cumberbatch before release. But would they renegotiate with Simu Liu if they did a last minute change for Shang Chi? Or the cast of The Eternals? Not so sure about those.
Hypothetically you can bet that if they had to do a day and date Disney+ on Dr. Strange 2 they will absolutely renegotiate with Cumberbatch before release. But would they renegotiate with Simu Liu if they did a last minute change for Shang Chi? Or the cast of The Eternals? Not so sure about those.
Don't care how rich you are, people have died for far less.
Jesus Christ
It's all good.
If the facts of the case are as clear-cut as they appear then a ruling that Disney is in breach of contract seems fait accompli and the real fight will be how to calculate the damages.
Excuse me, but you may want to re-read the post you responded to.
I wasn't defending Disney at all. I specifically commented on whether or not she's coming back to the Marvel universe.
Also mentioned she deserves money.
No shit. I mentioned that perhaps she isn't coming back and included something about RR not wanting to work with her. That speculation has nothing to do with whether she deserves money (which she does).
And how many of them were released post-Covid?
Hell even if it did address Covid I think both sides would object to that methodology.
Sure but that isn't the measure of the damages from breach of contract.
It's still irrelevant. If Disney wants to resurrect ScarJo Black Widow they aren't going to stop because it might mess with a potential Deadpool crossover.
Hollywood is using this streaming shit as a way to cut actors out of Promised profits. Fucking scam artists
She's definitely gonna burn bridges
www.google.com
Will be dead. But otherwise yeah Disney fucked up
‘Tower Of Terror’ Film Produced By Scarlett Johansson In Early Development At Disney
Deadline has confirmed that a Disney 'Tower of Terror' pic starring Scarlett Johansson is in the early stages of development.
www.google.com
Will be dead. But otherwise yeah Disney fucked up
It could be close if you figure the take from the theater.
I've seen estimates that $60 million is what Disney could expect to get from ~$150 million in theatrical box office sales.
So rather than theater + Disney+ for the take, estimate theater + theater equivalent from D+.
Then you'd just have to argue about how much was "lost" to repeat viewing and piracy.
There's no speculation needed. Disney released the movie in theaters and on VOD streaming, were paid per viewing for each. Scarlett's contract states it will only be released in theaters and she was only paid for the theatrical portion, therefore Disney owes her her contractually obliged portion of streaming cut at minimum. We don't need to guess how much money Disney made through streaming Black Widow.
Frankly it's fucked up that the contracts are so complicated and that movie makers are not sharing the profits from the streaming money. It's no wonder stars, directors and everybody is pissed about not being properly compensated.
Right, just saying these figures will be hard to generate and easy to contest. You have to demonstrate, e.g, that D+ purchasers would have gone to the theater if not for the streaming option, in what volume, with what frequency, etc.
Probably like music streaming, the publishers will screw the talent out of money :p
I'm thinking they just did a cost benefit analysis and this came up as cheaper than a contract renegotiation vs Disney lawyers missing this one.
She's definitely gonna burn bridges
‘Tower Of Terror’ Film Produced By Scarlett Johansson In Early Development At Disney
Deadline has confirmed that a Disney 'Tower of Terror' pic starring Scarlett Johansson is in the early stages of development.
Will be dead. But otherwise yeah Disney fucked up
Nah. It might be delayed a bit but Hollywood doesn't take this stuff too personally.
Peter Jackson sued Warner subsidiary New Line over being shafted on LOTR trilogy profits but was still back at the studio a few years later making The Hobbit trilogy.
If anything is going to kill The Tower of Terror it will be Jungle Cruise underperforming.
Has nothing to do with being complicated and more to do with makers not wanting to share profits with the crew/staff
I mean true but I guess that's my point. They fact that all movies "lose" money yet all the movie makers are somehow making billions in profits etc. payments should be straightforward and off revenue or something.
I'm not surprised she is sueing if that's what the contract said. It isn't even about the pandemic causing this issue so much as Disney doing the same shit they've pulled for a while now. Wasn't there a story about them using weird terms from the 90s to not pay royalties for streaming that would be paid for home box office stuff done over cable etc with bill nye the science guy? I remember the way it seemed in the lawsuit they really screwed him over when they should have paid up.
She should get an appropriate percentage of the Disney Plus Premiere money as well and if the initial contract is as cut and dry and the OP article suggests, this is likely what will happen.
With that said, don't expect her in ANY Disney-affiliated films for a long time, if ever.
With that said, don't expect her in ANY Disney-affiliated films for a long time, if ever.
Sorry if it came off like I was attacking you, was just saying Disney are very well off too.
Exactly this.
I need that Woody gif where he wipes the tears with money.
Yeah people treat companies as if they are people
Look at George Miller, folks thought him and Warner were done after the blowup over Fury Road, but I'm sure he's back for the prequel
Surprised this wasn't figured out before the movie release. Seems like a no duh that she'd be losing out on money she'd be otherwise getting?
Certainly sucks for anyone who was getting a cut of the movies though that were planned pre-covid
Certainly sucks for anyone who was getting a cut of the movies though that were planned pre-covid
People trying to use the argument that because she is a millionaire she should be able to get screwed over and not get properly compensated for her work are garbage people. Hope you also get fucked by legal loopholes, assholes.
No, no! I can see how I should have led off on a better foot! You're good. <3
Scarlett's done with Marvel
They have Florence Pugh now so she can take on the mantle (haven't watched BW tho so I don't know if this is what's going to happen)
They have Florence Pugh now so she can take on the mantle (haven't watched BW tho so I don't know if this is what's going to happen)
The lawsuit also claims that "Disney's financial disclosures make clear that the very Disney executives who orchestrated this strategy will personally benefit from their and Disney's misconduct," as it identifies Disney CEO's Bob Chapek's equity grants "totaling 3.8 times his $2.5 million base salary" in 2021, with the "primary justification" for that award being the launch of direct-to-consumer services. The lawsuit also notes that Disney executive chairman Bob Iger received the "overwhelming majority" of his $16.5 million compensation in the form of stock grants, with the company's annual report citing the growth of Disney+.
Disney Strikes Back Over Scarlett Johansson’s ‘Black Widow’ Lawsuit, Reveals Her $20 Million Payday – Update
'Black Widow' star Scarlett Johansson is suing Disney for breach of contract over its release of the film on Disney+ the same day it opened in theaters
deadline.com
This. She is also listed as a producer so she probably has a large part of her salary based on gross profits or revenues. And this was supposed to be THE movie where she's getting paid a high salary, as compared to a more regular lead role salary in her previous movies. I thought they would have renegotiated with her.
Yup. It could be a formality to get things moving. George Miller sued Warner Brothers but they're still making Mad Max movies with him.
Good, studios shouldn't screw over talent by ignoring agreed contracts. This is something that, if she wins, will help a lot of a actors in the future