Original 360 defect rate was 68 per cent
The factory defect rate for Xbox 360 consoles in August 2005 - four months prior to its US launch - was as high as 68 p…
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>68Original 360 defect rate was 68 per cent
The factory defect rate for Xbox 360 consoles in August 2005 - four months prior to its US launch - was as high as 68 p…
Probably not lol. Maybe this means something to somebody out there, I could just be out of touch.
As a constant complainer, it's ironic to me as well. I wanted to make a post about with some data, maybe I'll do that later in here or an actual thread because it's actually literally true.
kinda sucks. hopefully whatever they have planned sustains their hardware alongside their current third party support. we never got so many indies, stuff from asia (not only japan but south korea, SEA and more), europe, south america, etc. the third party and id@xbox teams at xbox are incredible.
they have been SO bad lately.
damn that's high lolOriginal 360 defect rate was 68 per cent
The factory defect rate for Xbox 360 consoles in August 2005 - four months prior to its US launch - was as high as 68 p…
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Honestly I could see it. They're basically already doing it now with the ROG Ally and Lenovo Legion GO but really early. Gathering telemetry, feedback, adjusting UI in the XBox PC app (however small), laying groundwork on the OS level, etc. I could see them letting 3rd parties hit the market first while they incorporate feedback and lessons from them into a bespoke first party device.
I don't have faith that they have the Sw ready for rhat but I hope they do haha. I'd buy one when the Strix Point handhelds drop.
Clippy, i really like you and your posts but i swear that i don't follow if this is irony or not (because of the dwindling sales and the change of strategy) lmao
i do believe that the next couple years will be even better tho!! their outreach and initiatives to get stuff on xbox has been really impressive. what worries me is after that, which i think is what you think too?
anyway, quite looking forward to the showcase, next partner previews and other things to see what kinda stuff those teams have been cooking
Been trying to find something suitable, but no luck.
The big question would be if all games work with that overlay for the ROG Ally, etc. I have doubts that some games that are solely on consoles (eg Unicorn Overlord or the upcoming College Football game) would be allowed to essentially run on a PC.
Dead serious. There are reasons why I'm skeptical of Xbox in long term that we don't need to repeat, but there are actual (public) numbers behind why support is actually gonna get better in the next 1-3 years. I'll actually just stop vague-posting and effort post about it.
Unrelated to why I think FF games are gonna start coming.
One of the big problems I see. They don't have licenses for this stuff. Also have to wonder about compatibility and possibly showing your partners in a bad light if this is 100% smooth and seamless.
i love the idea but i dont think there really is much hype on the thread with anything cod or warzone related. and now even less with solis banned lol
Can't wait for the post! (but don't rush it since i know how much effort it takes to gather data and stuff). The FF stuff (the remakes at least) i imagine is related to data off the installbase forums that people are chatting in the other thread. really curious for the showcase, i'm 99% sure that at the very least FFXVI will show up there.
I had two 😭 i understand the pain, i just didn't know they were that high _before_ shipping
Maybe the rumored Black Ops 6 short tease coming this month could give a good material for hype train.
It doesn't really matter what it is, but a plane in the distance and avatars dropping out is a good idea. We could always do a basic shelf.
My guess is only the Xbox branded devices would get away with BC
The only time I hear about PC gamer it is somewhat posting bottom-of-the-barrel clickbait (usually rage bait) headlines
the hype shelf should be the double fine two headed baby logo going into space (new double fine game + shattered space for starfield)
in an ideal world the hype thingie should be an adra pillar with our pfps coming out of it instead of souls but i cant find any good image to use :(
that or the iconic warehouse shot at the end of raiders of the lost ark with the pfps on the crates is the only thing i can think of that wouldnt get me a mod warning lol
what the hell you thinkin about that would get a mod warning lolthat or the iconic warehouse shot at the end of raiders of the lost ark with the pfps on the crates is the only thing i can think of that wouldnt get me a mod warning lol
If we were still on OG Warzone I'd have been doing it. The new one didn't really click with me, though it felt good to go back to Fortune's Keep again.
I cooould make an updated version of this, just to throw some idea out there anywaysWe could do photomosaic of this ig.
edit: also made one white and green with the platformers but since this e3 we are getting a COD direct this seemed more in-line
This misses the point entirely. It's not about whether Microsoft abandons the console or not, but about whether players and third parties do. Microsoft can keep it running as long as they feel like it, even as a side project if need be.
That won't work for third parties and Game Pass you mention as a neccessity to Microsoft, suddenly becomes a neccessity to third parties, if the install base becomes too low. At that point many will need a Game Pass deal to make ports worth it and how many and large will those be, if Game Pass only (or mainly) sells on Xbox, like you said and the console isn't selling well?
As for players, how long will it keep working for them, if they get everything on other platforms and only some games on Xbox? It's a cycle of decline, where one thing feeds into the other.
Here's the latest speculation on sales:
Xbox Game Studios + Bethesda + ABK |OT30| Why So Series X|S? Microsoft - OT
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This is Microsoft's best territory.
What was Dring's words? Something along the lines of thinking Xbox is in real trouble as a hardware manufacturer, with sales flatlining in Europe.
Microsoft can keep making the console, but that missing the entire point of how compelling said console will be to players and developers. And that's why some of us are against the ports.
That strategy won't work for the console, even if Microsoft keeps making it. They ecosystem will be irreversibly damaged.
People keep saying that, but assuming Xbox does at least 20+ million next gen, the vast majority of third party won't skip that, that is still a decent audience for something that isn't that much different to a PC, development wise. Will smaller games and indies sometimes skip? Sure, but that happens now and it happens with PlayStation as well.
I am not necessarily having a go at people being against Ports, I totally understand. I just think the worries are not really applicable. There's no real alternative really; the console isn't selling that well so to make more money they need to bring the games elsewhere. That's it really.
My question about console / pc thing is what is the big reason for Xbox to be locked down in the way it has been for so long, it is running windows already pretty much so what's to stop them from having the console look like it is today but just being a win11 pc essentially. I get security are issues but with the security chip they have in the Xbox I think that'll go a long way, apparently the same chip is even in the Surface laptops or are going to be at some point.
If a windows based console runs the exact same code as a win11 PC steam/winstore/gog and whatever, there would be literally no reason not to support the console and with optimising on console pretty much gone to shit what benefits does a locked down console like that do anymore.
Series X has all sorts of cool tech that PS5 didn't at the time and not a single dev really utilized it so what's the point. I don't think there is any point anymore in have exclusive features that take time to implement when devs are struggling now with just getting games to run in good states at launch.
If a windows based console runs the exact same code as a win11 PC steam/winstore/gog and whatever, there would be literally no reason not to support the console and with optimising on console pretty much gone to shit what benefits does a locked down console like that do anymore.
Series X has all sorts of cool tech that PS5 didn't at the time and not a single dev really utilized it so what's the point. I don't think there is any point anymore in have exclusive features that take time to implement when devs are struggling now with just getting games to run in good states at launch.
You can only sell a console at the price you can because you have guaranteed ROI after the fact thanks to the locked down ecosystem. Look at the Playstation business margins. They're razor thin as is, now imagine if you took away a large part of the high margin software and microtransaction sales.
If you want a PC/console hybrid, be prepared to pay PC prices up front.
And I'd argue the general public is not at all interested in something like this at those prices: see Steam machines. Either they want the customization of a PC, or the simplicity of a console. Not much in-between. Even Steam Deck which is the current closest competitor realistically only sold a few million at most despite the hardcore circles loving it. And SD only works at all because Steam is a dominant storefront already, and they can more or less expect the equivalent of lock in for most purchasers, and so can subsidize the system still.
I genuinely don't think i am super confident on the Windows team delivering a good controller OS
but yea that locked ecosystem is what keeps these boxes alive tbh
My point is more about software wise, what is the big difference in the console running console code vs pc not really about the hardware itself. It still would be a locked down system in the sense you're talking about but just be able to run identical PC titles from the Xbox store, not saying they'll allow Steam/GOG and so on. I think my question is more on the GDK stuff with how they port titles from PC to Xbox and the other way around, its supposedly easy to do but with games skipping the platform you would think having 2 versions PC/Xbox would elevate that.
Also with the systems having unique features it just seems like a waste of time, which is the biggest drawcard for consoles for the longest time, 3rd party devs aren't simply using the features.
I would say Xbox team would focus on that.
There is no such thing as guaranteed ROI. Only estimates. 😜
It may be that there is no alternative. It may be they wasted all the goodwill and time they had. They spent a decade not delivering and reducing the first party output. With Bethesda acquisition Phil said it was about "exclusives where Gamepass exists." That clearly isn't the case. I think they need to be clear about where they are going but it's Xbox and clear messaging is not their strong suit.
At the end of the day they are kind of giving up on the consoles. It's a paradigm shift but it's not clear how they plan on navigating those waters. It's messing with my head that after 20 years they could launch a console that doesn't interest me.
My guess is that the act of getting a game running on the current iteration of the xbox OS doesn't involve much more work now than it would if it was just an MS PC store frontend. I imagine most of the work even now is
- Platform features like matchmaking and achievements
- Console optimization and performance targets
- Adding another platform to the cert/QA process that makes things more difficult.
noway it doesn't show if the game isn't cancelled. The game has been in production for atleast 5 years, likely more considering it was revealed in 2021.
Microsoft will announce Blizzard Albany has been transitioned back to Vicarious Visions and will immediately begin development on THPS 3+4
it'll never happen in reality 😥
Your spoiler text is sadly accurate, I'd guess. Microsoft didn't buy ABK to scale anything back from CoD. I had a lot of hope, as both an Xbox owner but also someone who mainly games on PS5, that Microsoft owning ABK would lead to a lot more studio freedom. But as much as Microsoft bought ABK, in some sense ABK bought Microsoft. That is, Microsoft is sort of beholden to ABK's financial driver, Call of Duty. How does it look if Microsoft buys the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow and then immediately starts to lower revenue by decreasing CoD output or reviving old titles and new, untested IPs?
I mean, prove me wrong Phil. Microsoft certainly has the cash to take creative risks. The problem is that I sincerely doubt they will. If VV is too crucial to getting the next corporate Amazon tv show skins ready for the next season of CoD, they'll be stuck working on that and not Tony Hawk.