can we go for the hat trick
Greg seemed to imply they were going to get his thoughts on those recent events which IMO is a mistake. It would be bad vibes and terrible timing. Let Spencer answer for it in like two weeks after that.
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Greg seemed to imply they were going to get his thoughts on those recent events which IMO is a mistake. It would be bad vibes and terrible timing. Let Spencer answer for it in like two weeks after that.
why are they half assing this lol. Then again I am not sure what I expected with the state of the pc store after how many years.
they can't do anything on mobile really for now until it gets opened up more. They can maybe do something in the EU only like what Epic is planning on doing but that's about it..
Fair Enough, I thought it would have been an app to like download games and such.
I'm assuming apple and Google want their cut tho in NA?
if it's on the web, they don't get a cut hence that being the initial launch.
They could 100% do a real store on Android, but it would be as annoying to use as the Amazon app store is due to installation prompts saying it could be dangerous to install (I think this is one of Epic's complaints about installing Fortnite on Android). Wouldn't be a problem for the two Android phones Microsoft made but that's not a whole lot of devices. I think Bond said they are doing the web store on both anyway though so that purchases could be platform agnostic. Gives me hope that when they can do a real store on both it'll be a Play Anywhere type situation between Android and iOS devices for purchased games.
There are still regulations to follow, a web-based store allow them to start with it globally rather than only in certain markets because of the ongoing lawsuits against Apple from both Epic and Europe.
Are they allowed to have their own app yet, but with a cut to Apple/Google?
After the debacle that is the PC store, say just accept the 30% cut and give it the best chance to get people using it.
imo the full reason that they are doing this is cause:
- US you can only link out to a website to buy your mtx, i don't think there isn't any alternative app stores there (its almost 9pm on a friday so struggling to remember)
- EU you can have an alternative appstore both native or web store where you can download apps (downlink apps from the web is a new addition); the issue currently is that to install an app with more than 1m donwloads is unless you are tiny, you are going to be charged $0.50 per install beyond 1m app. Some bean counter has probably given them a scary esitmate.
I would rather them to eat the $0.50 but like Spotify and Epic; they might want to keep fighting that CTF.
If you are doing a store, you also need to get the other big mobile devs onboarded include Epic imo.
- US you can only link out to a website to buy your mtx, i don't think there isn't any alternative app stores there (its almost 9pm on a friday so struggling to remember)
- EU you can have an alternative appstore both native or web store where you can download apps (downlink apps from the web is a new addition); the issue currently is that to install an app with more than 1m donwloads is unless you are tiny, you are going to be charged $0.50 per install beyond 1m app. Some bean counter has probably given them a scary esitmate.
I would rather them to eat the $0.50 but like Spotify and Epic; they might want to keep fighting that CTF.
If you are doing a store, you also need to get the other big mobile devs onboarded include Epic imo.
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Agreed, it's a question that i have and its a fair question for Greg/anyone to have. I just hope it isn't the story of the interview but it probably is going ending being that even if NT wants to be about the game.
They can do an Android store with no cut to Google (since the beginning of Android), but not so much on iOS.
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Regarding the mobile store, important to remember that in the EU this summer Apple is allowing downloading and installing apps from the web:
Maybe the store will provide more functionality in the EU.
Maybe the store will provide more functionality in the EU.
I actually think its the best looking and most cohesive app on pc (I don't really care much about the social stuff that steam has).
but the last 6 months its not letting me launch games properly (reinstalling the app doesn't help), i literally have to restart my pc hald the time i try to run a game.
I looked up the error code online and its been an issue for like 3 years.
I'm not subscribed to anything but the Alanah Pearce one (Play, Watch, Listen or something like that). If you're subbed let us know what they say!
The 100MB file size impressed me. It installed in my PS5 like immediately lol
In regards to Ybarra's tweet on choosing a lane and Game Pass being a north-star in one of them, I'd argue they've been in both lanes from the start. If Game Pass was really their north-star, they would have:
Of course the recent events of games going to rival platforms and closing down studios further dilutes the potential of GP.
- Had GP exclusive 1st and 3rd party games not available on the store, or exclusive for a limited time
- Not released games on Steam or other storefronts
- Not purchased Activision where they were obliged to keep most games multiplatform
Of course the recent events of games going to rival platforms and closing down studios further dilutes the potential of GP.
we're 100% not going to ask that question - the focus is on the game
Yikes, I suppose getting a 20% discount on candy crush bucks or whatever the fuck they're called could be feasible but this sounds like another thing MS is going to kill off in a few years.
I know the slow and long arm of regulatory agencies move slowly but this seems like a short-sighted attempt to get money now and I don't think the metrics are going to justify whatever resources they are going to spend on this. Even if this web portal introduces games, I don't think it's going to amount to more than a barnacle on whale nuts.
Apple and Google both shuffle in around 2 billion users to their app stores a month. "Meet the players where they are" my ass.
It's not like they're pulling candy crush or Minecraft off the stores. They're still meeting players there.
To be fair it's not like they're removing games from the Apple and Google stores, just providing a way for players to get things in those games cheaper and building up from there. I agree that it's probably not going to amount to much, but that's also probably why MS is starting small at first, before even bringing up the regulatory hurdles of a full store
Thank you!
Totally unrelated question but, have you ever considered voice acting?
Told y'all Animal Well was coming (eventually).
Anyway, for all people who say: just go indie and open another studio!
View: https://twitter.com/GIBiz/status/1789035934954009029
one for the pile that didn't find funding. sigh. things are so bad rn.
Anyway, for all people who say: just go indie and open another studio!
View: https://twitter.com/GIBiz/status/1789035934954009029
one for the pile that didn't find funding. sigh. things are so bad rn.
thank goodness. can't wait for the podcast!
there is a post in that DoubleFine thread that got me annoyed as fuck cause of this issue.
Good, thanks.
Just to be clear, I definitely wasn't asking for it. I was just worried that this might be a case where it's impossible to avoid mentioning it. But good if it stays focused on the game and the team.
Keep up the good work!
You know what would cut costs but keep staff..moving to remote work instead of continuing to pay for all those offices
haha I've been asked this a few times and my answer is I've considered it but not sure how to get started
Yeah, but I guess I was just thinking about the scuttlebutt from this week but Jez and Rand seemed to double down on it so.
Just ask someone at Xbox the next time you are there! I know I saw some people in SoD2 that worked there.
If i may request/suggest that you ask about unreal engine 5/technology (these may be things you already thought about)
1) How have the features like lumen and nanite and metahuman aided in the production of HB2 over HB1?
2) Has The Coalition / Xbox Games Technology Group helped in any way (collaboration across studios)
3) unreal engine 5.4 just brought a lot of optimizations targeted towards console performance (check DFs video today on it). Starfield just got 40/60 fps modes. Is this something Ninja Theory is looking in to?
Thanks Parris 🙏
Because they own every console + a decent gaming PC. A game being Multiplatform or not doesn't effect them, a platform failing and going away doesn't effect them.
Excellent questions to ask! I was just wondering about UE 5.4 and if they will upgrade to that at some point.
I don't trust anything the Xbox leadership say and I'm not going to be picking up more GamePass or a future console until we get more answers about what the fuck they're doing.
i think when ms started with gp, they thought many third parties would be reluctant to launch games day 1 on it and that they would need to rely more on first party releases, leading to the acquisitions.
but now that we are years into the service, it turns out that's only really an issue for huge aaa titles, not for small to mid size games. chris dring also mentions this in his article, that instead of publishing mid budget games themselves, they can just do much cheaper gp deals.
but now that we are years into the service, it turns out that's only really an issue for huge aaa titles, not for small to mid size games. chris dring also mentions this in his article, that instead of publishing mid budget games themselves, they can just do much cheaper gp deals.
At this point I have no trust in Xbox an it's leadership. I don't see a future in the brand. I will just continue to invest on my PC (Steam). This gen might be the last that I buy consoles and I've been buying every console since the PS1/64 gen.
is this confirmed 60fps btw on series x? I want to play on my 6700xt but I think the gpu might cry