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Xbox Game Studios + Bethesda + ABK | OTXVIII | Some Marketers Are Always Trying To Ice Skate Uphill
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The one thing about Quick Resume that people sometimes overlook is that you don't even have to save the game. You can just stop playing anytime you want to and resume back up at exactly where you left off within seconds.
RT is gonna depend on AMD and what solutions they come up with. All the RT we see now is 99% on NVIDIA cards. AMD isn't what you buy for RT. That's what was wild about those leaked next gen slides. All the stuff Microsoft talked about adding into the next Xbox is stuff AMD either doesn't have or isn't good at. They're, as someone said (can't remember who), at least 5 years behind NVIDIA. That's two and a half gens in terms of GPU features and advancements.
Honestly AMD's inability to really compete with NVIDIA is why I'd prefer Microsoft not launch in 2026 either. They haven't really delivered a truly great GPU in years. The more recent the better for them.
View: https://x.com/FaizShaikh7681/status/1737636329893335547?s=20
So funny rn seeing $50M budget for a "AAA" game here when over yonder we're looking at non-AAA, "mid sized games" costing $100M lol.
Not saying PCF aren't making a AAA game, but the range in budget and relativity is just funny with current events.
I forgot People Can Fly are making a game with Microsoft. Aren't they also rumored to be making a game with Sony too (Project Ooze I think)?
Interesting how some partnerships are just out there in the public.
He's been head of Activision since 2019.
Bobby was head of Activision Blizzard, the company that oversaw Activision. That role is gone now.
True but it's worth pointing out that PCF is in Poland while Insomniac is in California
PCF announced it in a press release some time ago iirc.
Ik which is why i called it a braindead prediction. There was a chance someone became the abk ceo-like delegate reporting to spencer in his place (which i guessed would have also been Kotisch) but they ended up just making it booty as well
Okay, I think my time with this OT and general Xbox related threads has come to a close. Oso and I had similar views and if he was banned who was much more pro-Xbox than I, it means I am probably skating on thin ice. It's not worth it really, I use this place to distract from long shifts at work, I really don't want to go back to Reddit :p
Have fun everyone, and I will argue with you elsewhere! Just not about Xbox. Unless it's Crackdown 3, I probably couldn't help myself then.
PS Go Arcanum
PPS lost odyssey not being on gamepass is still a travesty.
Have fun everyone, and I will argue with you elsewhere! Just not about Xbox. Unless it's Crackdown 3, I probably couldn't help myself then.
PS Go Arcanum
PPS lost odyssey not being on gamepass is still a travesty.
Completely forgot about this game. Yeah, it's funny to associate $50 mil with AAA these days, since budgets keep rising. Having said that, though, Alan Wake 2 supposedly only had a €50 mil budget as well.
Tweet's dead (actually I think it's just Twitter?) what did it say?
Damn, that sucks, I'm gonna miss your posts in here as I always thought you were pretty reasonable and logical with how you acted. You and Sullivan have always been genuine and also stick around.
You've always been a real one, other than your simping of a sub par game
(I haven't played Arcanum)
It was just kinda recounting the People Can Fly Project Maverick game and some names attached to it that worked in halo or cod or whatever
What did he get banned for? I think you're being a bit over the top - not sure if you need to worry about being banned. I've been banned for being too much of an Xbox fanboy (I got banned for calling PlayStation fans entitled for asking about Blade on PlayStation). I doubt you would be banned, but it depends on the exact reason Oso was banned.
Well, just off the top of my head, these are the reasons I mostly play on my Series X these days (when I'm playing on console):
1. Game Pass: It's proven very useful for giving games I'm on the fence on a spin, and whoever is scheduling the new games coming in has great taste in games.
2. Easy switching between console and PC: Play Anywhere is a godsend, with save files carrying over very easily. If I'm unhappy with the performance in an XSX game, i can easily just boot up the PC and finish the rest of it there.
3. Much better controller: The Series controller might be my favorite controller ever. I really dislike the DualSense and its atrocious battery life.
4. Much better library management: Xbox has easily the best tools/interface for viewing and sorting your game library on any current console, invaluable for digital hoarders like me.
5. Outstanding BC: Maybe it's more valuable to me than some of you Xbox OGs in here, but being able to play older games (particularly from the 360 generation) is amazing. I'm a late joiner so theres a lot of meat on that bone still.
and finally...
6. I strongly prefer the diversity we get (and are projected to get) from Xbox first party. I started drifting away from PlayStation (and into PC gaming) in the PS4 gen, where it seemed Sony only seemed willing to make a specific sort of game. They've only leaned harder into that stance since, and Xbox just has more stuff that speaks to me nowadays. Hi-Fi Rush was a miracle, and the kind of game Japan Studio could have attempted back in the day (but modern Sony would never attempt).
PS This is my first post in any console-specific OT, whether on GAF or Era. Nice to finally jump in!
nice to meet you and welcome to the thread though it might get a little to doom and gloom during sales data release but other than that the thread is for the most part chill
We are blessed to have weekly Japanese sales data and weekly uk boxed sales threads aren't we folks.
And then staggered uk/eu/us monthly sales reports so that they come out a week or two apart. It's a never ending cycle :-)
Nice post….and welcome!
These are the kind of anecdotes that we see more and more - and were NEVER seen during the previous generation. The hardcore console gamer, those who are more likely to have dual (or multiple) consoles are recognizing the kind of consumer/gamer friendly moves that Xbox have made, and are in the process of making and have made Xbox their MAIN as a result. There is always a lag between the hardcore audience "getting it" vs the vast casual gaming masses. It may take a few years, but I truly believe that Xbox will make some market share gains if they keep doing the things they are doing. I'm slowly getting caught up on the furor around Sony/Insomniac (without looking at Wolverine content) and in that light one should be able to see that the path MS/Xbox are on is a very shrewd one. Game Pass and yes, the diversity of game genres that Xbox offers - with a nice selection of smaller games which don't cost in the hundreds of millions to make - is a very real advantage they have, amongst several others. Basically, to make significant gains over Sony, Xbox must make their gaming proposition so good that it can no longer be dismissed or ignored. I think they have a pretty decent chance of pulling it off. The quality of the next handful of games will be a very telling indicator.
Japan sales data is more a surprise if xbox even send more unit or why the big jump sometimes and at least it contained in those threads for the most part its when it spreads here then we get the repeated stuff that i think we all know ad nauseum but we can't do anything about except philsp or solis74 whichever is phil spencers account and tell them to do something about and maybe marketing while they are at it
View: https://twitter.com/Xbox_JP/status/1737684489201967588?t=8xGgjhiAGODChfVtqcm9sw&s=19
Xbox Japan advertising Hellblade 2 when Hellblade 1 isn't available in Xbox Japanese store.
You can switch to US region and buy it easily with Japanese localisation and everything but why not just make it available officially?
At the same time, BG3 is still not confirmed for Xbox in Japan:
View: https://twitter.com/JaberAltarrah/status/1737067771366662544?t=haOk9NjrmT-a97x1scjiBQ&s=19
SpikeChunsoft are handling the Japanese localisation (out today).
Xbox/Larian/SpikeChunsoft and media outlets are all dead silent regarding this. Basically BG3 is Playstation console exclusive in Japan.
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Lmao does this have anything to do with the enigmatic japanese law Team17 or whomever used as an excuse the other week for not having a jp version available
Nice to meet you! The sales stuff doesnt particularly phase me (though I do enjoy keeping tabs on the business side of gaming) - at the end of the day, if I'm satisfied with the product I'm getting that's all that matters!
The Japanese boxed sales stuff was always a lost cause, particularly given how that particular market has heavily trended mobile/handheld. If I were the Xbox suits I'd more heavily focus on the additional sales potential in overseas markets when I'm marketing to Japanese pubs (which I assume is what they're doing anyway, lol).
Good points to be sure. Adding on to your argument, I think what Sony may not have accounted for in this long term plan of theirs (based on Insomniac's internal timelines from the leak) is that the market for doing what is basically the same genre of game over and over again may not sell as well in 2028 as it does today. I'm already pretty burned out on it right now as it is lol.
Given what we've seen from their game budgets (and how much Disney is taking off the top), a single underperforming title could prove to be disastrous on their end.
No idea
My guess: Xbox version got delayed for months so local publisher (SpikeChunsoft) didn't get to sign up Xbox localisation at the time.
So now it's basically console exclusive for PS5 in Japan.
But you might be right:
View: https://twitter.com/JezCorden/status/1733121887255859217?t=18Scwv9tuXv-9ugtodUVog&s=19
It's all weird over there.
A few things from Xbox fans' favorite Japanese publisher, that just had a management meeting; some highlights of interest to this thread. First, the key phrase being repeated with regards to growing popular Sega IP; "multi-platform" and "global simultaneous." They say this strategy to grow pillar IP has been a success, and they're gonna keep purusing it.
Second, not directly related to Sega games on Xbox, but about general growth strategy. PC is key to growing in Asia.
Bonus.
Second, not directly related to Sega games on Xbox, but about general growth strategy. PC is key to growing in Asia.
Bonus.
I think a lot of us in here prefer that. Well, that and western RPGs and FPS. There's been so many great games from them this generation, aside from the bigger titles like Forza Horizon 5, Starfield, Psychonauts 2, Deathloop and similar, that don't get the same recognition, but Grounded, Pentiment and AoE2/4 are incredible games and deserve just as much praise as the more well known titles.
Welcome to the thread!
Top paid in Xbox store. Hope they don't ignore Japanese users for long because it's not a good look imo.
A few things from Xbox fans' favorite Japanese publisher, that just had a management meeting; some highlights of interest to this thread. First, the key phrase being repeated with regards to growing popular Sega IP; "multi-platform" and "global simultaneous." They say this strategy to grow pillar IP has been a success, and they're gonna keep purusing it.
Second, not directly related to Sega games on Xbox, but about general growth strategy. PC is key to growing in Asia.
Bonus.
Defeats the "Persona 6 exclusive" narrative for sure.
Game has a physical CERO Z PS5 version in Japan too. Hopefully it gets sorted.
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View: https://twitter.com/Cromwelp/status/1737635154854625535?t=VCwCTZW9CniZZnM7UHUbAw&s=19
PC Japanese version confirmation ASAP soon
Xbox?
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2024 should be pretty exciting on the MS Gaming front, they seem to be locked and loaded with their new organization.
Does anyone think that weird deal they had to make with Ubisoft for Acti-Blizz cloud licenses will have any material impact on their strategy?
Does anyone think that weird deal they had to make with Ubisoft for Acti-Blizz cloud licenses will have any material impact on their strategy?
To be fair the game is already on PC and it's just localisation. The console version in JP is a heavily censored version to pass ratings. Seeing as it just dropped on Xbox in the west maybe its still going through certification for Xbox in Japan.
Really hope you are right but an official confirmation at this time would be nice.
Yes, I'm a huge platformer fan and thoroughly enjoyed Psychonauts 2. I want to get around to Pentiment as well (and I will, as soon as I get out from under this pile of recent releases, lol).
And thanks for the welcome!
I don't think that it will affect their strategy in any material way. Its pretty clear they have a pretty low opinion of XCloud in terms of it being a monetizable product *right now*, so theyre happy to let Ubisoft pick up the slack while the technology and internet infrastructure matures.
Sure, any ABK games they release during this period will have their cloud streaming rights held by Ubi, but IMO thats nowhere near a big enough factor to make them alter any release plans.
Lmao first time posting here but why are people upset about that ban? It's fairly blatant. I don't do the forum politics stuff so idk anything about him but I've seen perms for far less
What's the 2nd last game?
Great looking games tbh
awesome thanksI was bored. I'm no Klobrille, but here ya go. I was gonna add pictures to them, but didnt feel like it, lol.
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I would say MS has been very innovative with the Series S|X. And ironically, that's part of the reason they aren't selling. their execution hasn't quite caught up with their ambitions.
I'm mainly play on Xbox, but use all platforms. I've yet to buy an Xbox Series S|X console because I can play all of their first party games on Xcloud and Steam. In my case, innovation has directly lead to a decrease sales of their console.
From where I sit, the "flaw" in execution here isn't that MS failed to sell me a console. It's that they failed to convince me to play their PC games through the windows store- they've effectively turned my PC into an Xbox console to compensate for the fact that I haven't bought their box.
Honestly, Xbox being handily outsold by PS5 wouldn't be all that alarming if they were making proportional gains in PC distribution. That way they'd be maintaining a brand presence even if people aren't buying the console. Xbox is clearly aware of this opportunity , which is why they point to PC Gamepass upside in the regions they struggle. They have enough 1st party IP and 3rd party partners to run a successful PC storefront. The fact that they've been so slow to improve the situation with their store is so baffling to me.
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The most recent innovation for consoles is that they are not necessary for playing certain games.
In the gaming space it makes more sense for most companies to have a game available on all platforms instead of only one exclusive platform.
I would say MS is just ahead of this business mind set compared to Sony. Sony is selling far more consoles but the MAU is lower compared to Xbox hence more profits for MS due to lower production costs in comparison to Sony.
People should start realizing that console sells alone are not important anymore for MS. Best case for MS would be that everybody would use x cloud or PC so they wouldn't need to develope and produce consumer hardware.
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Totally forgot about that.
Looking at currency conversion and asking Bing (of all things!)
- A Poland based dev on average gets about $44,000 p/a (175,000 zloty)
- A California based dev typically gets paid about $140,000 p/a with benefits.
That is a big difference in overall budget for a project.
I'm getting the steelbook for this. It retails at a decent price.
KindaFunny crew really loved this game last year, and even had a 4-way speedrun event that was a blast to watch.
l Xbox does have MAU but their user acquisition costs are going to lead to lower margins than Sony because MS had to pay competitors for access to their own customers. They gotta pay Valve for Starfield users. They gotta pay Sony and Nintendo for Minecraft users. They gotta pay Apple and Google for Candy crush users.
MS is definitely forward thinking, but they are not maximizing their opportunities, specifically on PC, and it's allowing the brand to contract in places where it should be growing.
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