Xbox next generation plan detailed in one picture
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Gotta hand it to Xbox. Everything is very seamless and just carries over and works. There are enhancements and new games are coming too. Seems like they are doing everything perfectly as far as execution in the grand scheme of things.
I owe no allegiance. I have jumped from Nintendo to Sony to Sega to Xbox and every combo you can think of. I go where I perceive the best value and service. They all have ups and downs.
I just finished Outer Worlds and it was one of the best games I've played this year. I'll soon get to play Doom Eternal for the first time and Forza 7. If those are low quality budget titles sign me up. I'll enjoy not paying $75 for a "quality" game.
This damn thread, Elite Sony Games(TM) and Gamers on a budget are not real gamers. LMFAO.
PS5 ushering in the AAAA game generation.
PS5 ushering in the AAAA game generation.
Correct, trojan horse was definitely the wrong word to use. I just don't think being able to purchase an actual license for the game will stay around much longer.
You've got a short memory, Sony used it for the Pro a lot, and how do you know the 5's UX is faster? You've seen it or are you guessing?
thats nice and all, but once one of these large companies buys all the smaller guys and has control you really cant do much about it except jump onboard of what they are offering or dont play games, simple as that.
I don't think they'll fully buckle. The brand is too strong to fail at this point
Easy investment to jump into Xbox this gen with Gamepass. Will be fun to play with my Xbox friends again.
Both consoles is the way to go this time around.
Both consoles is the way to go this time around.
I don't either, I have been all over the map as well. I'm not talking about allegiance. There is major consolidation and change happening here that I haven't seen since Sega left hardware. I worry about the repercussions long term as the competitive status quo has been good for us the past two decades.
Hopefully Sony or Amazon or somebody can compete with this Gamepass strategy long term. Or maybe Sony doesn't need to. Maybe exclusives are strong enough to weather the storm.
Wow. I thought things would start to melt down in November, but we've started early.
It's not something I am worried about as of TODAY. It's better for me if MS is NOT in the lead.
The Bethesda acquisition was impressive but I didn't need it. I was already sold on the service. I was happy.
Microsoft makes huge sums of money by selling licenses to games, they aren't about to stop.
I do think that gamepass will change the way games are made in the long run, the same way access to inexpensive studio equipment and streaming changed the way music is made. For better or worse.
I think it will lead to shorter, more varied experiences where developers want to see how high engagement is before spending millions for portions of a game that 50% are not even going to see. With fixed game cost you kind of have to sell a game like "for your 60 dollars you get 40h of playtime" even if half the people don't finish that game, now on gamepass... why would anyone really care how long a game is etc. In and out. No filler. I hope it leads to this and not some new fucked up way of monetization.
I think it will lead to shorter, more varied experiences where developers want to see how high engagement is before spending millions for portions of a game that 50% are not even going to see. With fixed game cost you kind of have to sell a game like "for your 60 dollars you get 40h of playtime" even if half the people don't finish that game, now on gamepass... why would anyone really care how long a game is etc. In and out. No filler. I hope it leads to this and not some new fucked up way of monetization.
MS can't buy up every studio and Sony can't compete on that, you also have no idea what else will happen, but what MS is doing NOW is shaking the industry up and that's a good thing for gamers.
The power of a computer is literally determined by how fast it can do calculations. The faster it is, the more powerful it is. The literal definition of a teraflop is " a unit of computing speed equal to one million million floating-point operations per second. "
Where have we seen the PS5 UX?
I think it's far too early to say that a subscription service is better (financially) for the less well off. Buying a machine with All - Access is more expensive than buying outright. Similar to buying a phone outright is more expensive than signing up to a "contract".
Encouraging folks to spend beyond their means (credit) is not inherently "better" for the consumer.
I think it's a really smart move by Microsoft, but when I read the cheerleading for "pro-consumer" moves I'm wondering if anyone writing them has ever had to juggle their finances around multiple standing orders for essentials/mortgages/rent/utilities & subs.
In some cases it can be pro-consumer, but to claim that it is always better for the consumer is naive.
As for the argument about if it will impact game design - of course it will - the business side of the equation always leaks into the creative side.
And one final thought - you don't need to mandate daily (24h) online check-ins (remember the start of last gen?) if all your games are only accessible via a subscription or are GaaS./MMO games, do you?
That always-online thing that Microsoft pushed (and got massive push back from last gen) - yeah that's gamepass now.
Encouraging folks to spend beyond their means (credit) is not inherently "better" for the consumer.
I think it's a really smart move by Microsoft, but when I read the cheerleading for "pro-consumer" moves I'm wondering if anyone writing them has ever had to juggle their finances around multiple standing orders for essentials/mortgages/rent/utilities & subs.
In some cases it can be pro-consumer, but to claim that it is always better for the consumer is naive.
As for the argument about if it will impact game design - of course it will - the business side of the equation always leaks into the creative side.
And one final thought - you don't need to mandate daily (24h) online check-ins (remember the start of last gen?) if all your games are only accessible via a subscription or are GaaS./MMO games, do you?
That always-online thing that Microsoft pushed (and got massive push back from last gen) - yeah that's gamepass now.
With a goofy ass take like this you don't deserve that Wu-Tang avatar.
And yet the Xbox One X had the same advantages over the competition, but they never advertised it as the "Fastest Console," only the "Most Powerful." I'm just saying it's very interesting that the marketing begin with "Fastest Console" only when the speed of the PS5's SSD became a talking point.
People are dunking on that post, but I think it's sort of fascinating that it took ten posts and a marketing image to get someone so angry that they remade phrenology, but for gamers.
I think this a good graphic for Xbox. Since this is a new gen, they want the general gaming audience to know what Game Pass encompasses in an single image. I've seen Xbox detail it, and media and insiders discuss it, but this is the best representation of it so far.
Gamers according to some people in this thread
Must be all those gamers who have monstrous gaming PCs giving a false illusion lol.
I don't think they'll disallow anyone from purchasing games, as there's still incentive on both sides to allow it. Microsoft unquestionably makes a lot of money from people purchasing games, and people who purchase games still benefit by being able to play them once they're delisted. That said, given some of the conversations around digital rights and the transfer of ownership of digital content, I could see the fact that most people will subscribe instead of purchase making the outcomes in those discussions much more palatable for the companies involved.
I really like where Microsoft is going with Xbox and GamePass, especially cause games next-gen are 80 Euros...
I mean the dude said people want to play elite Sony games after referring to the people piling on his posts as corporate shills lmao. Guess he didn't bother to look in the mirror. Fascinating and hilarious at the same time because I just don't see why people get this worked up over this shit. If you don't like gamepass then fine, but to come in here and post something like that in an attempt to spread FUD is ridiculous.
There was like a very short window for me going from "poor college student" to "single w/good job" to "wife and kids."Gamers according to some people in this thread
But even when I was I was single with "money," I still didn't spend money like crazy on games. Always wanted the best value I could get.
Wait if I spend $1.000+ on a PC and then just play with Game Pass, Am I part of the PC Master Race and can treat console gamers like peasants? Or am I a budget peasant that will hold back quality for the Elite Gamers ?
People really saying they have concerns about Game Pass quality diminishing because that is what happened to Netflix.
Netflix spent around 17 billion this year and had a record number of Emmy nominations with 160. They also have by far the largest 4K library.
I guess I don't get it
Netflix spent around 17 billion this year and had a record number of Emmy nominations with 160. They also have by far the largest 4K library.
I guess I don't get it
I really like this picture, and hope that it's not just for the next generation, but the future of gaming. Available, affordable and with plenty of options.
No. You said "some people may dispute that claim".
yet to see what the basis for any dissenting opinion would be.