Objectively true. I'll probably end up getting a Playstation next gen for the first party games no matter what, but all the BS is making me really want to grab an Xbox as well for third party stuff.
I wouldn't call any of the big three pro consumer. All of them have their own bullshit going.Indeed. Between lack of cross-play, lack of any BC whatsoever (you have to buy your PS2 games again), and lack of PS Store refunds without a CS nightmare, Sony can hardly be called 'pro-consumer' this generation sadly. But they make great games, obviously. So they get a free pass most of the time as a result. But the pressure is mounting on all three fronts for the next generation.
Well Microsoft could set an example and start listening to the gamers.
So where are the games and when will F2P games actually be F2P on Xbox?
sony doesn't need to. they're no.1.
xbox needs to concentrate on not being last place.
F2P single-player games don't cost you anything.Well Microsoft could set an example and start listening to the gamers.
So where are the games and when will F2P games actually be F2P on Xbox?
ERA has never and will never represent the general gaming population.And yet the vote thread here showed over 70% of 3000+ votes didn't care.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's a feature announced at the PS5 reveal. There'll be something behind the scenes that's probably making it complicated and they're covering it up with PR rubbish.
I never said it was black or white. Just different shades of grey.I wouldn't call any of the big three pro consumer. All of them have their own bullshit going.
Firstly, era is a bubble. Secondly, we'll see if that holds as the next consoles launch. As Switch, mobile and PC gaming all continue to grow at their current rapid rate, not to mention the potential of a Google console and whatever else, the console(s) with cross-play will be the ones which will have the biggest and most active online userbase next generation.And yet the vote thread here showed over 70% of 3000+ votes didn't care.
We know for a fact nothing is stopping it, Fortnite had a bug which enabled it for a few days.I wouldn't be surprised if it's a feature announced at the PS5 reveal. There'll be something behind the scenes that's probably making it complicated and they're covering it up with PR rubbish.
And MS should not charge to play F2P games on the Xbox.
And round and round we go
Let's face it , a high number of those "votes" will be from people who do not even have a PS4, cos console wars etc
They are.
I wouldn't call any of the big three pro consumer. All of them have their own bullshit going.
And on PS4 F2P online multiplayer games don't cost me anything either. Not very pro consumer from Microsoft to charge for that don't you think?
And on PS4 F2P online multiplayer games don't cost me anything either. Not very pro consumer from Microsoft to charge for that don't you think?
It's locked behind Live. So it isn't.
Why exactly?I think it's very nice of Sony to not charge for it, but it's not really fair towards people that play expensive games. So I understand why Microsoft has chosen to draw the line at all multiplayer.
Regardless of that; paying for multiplayer is shit. And we should all be against it.
The last F2P game I played on Xbox was Phantom Dust.
Looking at the games coming to PS4 this week...stay strong MS.
Couple of days ago:
Customer: "He likes Mario, football and Fortnite. What do you recomend?"
Me: "Well, there's nothing besides the Switch that handles the games he likes, since Mario is exclusive. Also The Switch already has a good football option that seems to keep being supported. Quick question though: Does he want Fortnite to play with his friends?"
C: "Yes. And they have PS4."
Me: "In that case, if that's the most important thing, you have to buy a PS4."
Sony has done a lot of things For the Gamers this gen and the fact that this is still a "For the Gamers" gen at all is down to Sony since we all remember the piece of shit things Xbox wanted to do - at least, don't see myself forgetting about that any time soon.
Crossplay is For the Gamers but every decision has to have a balance between what's for the gamers and what's the for the company's best interest and with such a big difference in install base i totally understand Sony's decision and everyone making this a trivial and obvious matter is just being simplistic or intelectually dishonest.
Truth, right there.We've had this discussion just as many times as we had the crossplay discussion. And I still stand by my opinion I had in those topics:
- Paying for online is bad. It should be removed completely.
- It doesn't make sense that you should have to pay to play online for a $60 title when you can play online on a $0 title.
- Beta's shouldn't be part of this stupid pay for online system.
Yes. Fairness is the reason why MS puts Fortnite behind a paywall.I think it's very nice of Sony to not charge for it, but it's not really fair towards people that play expensive games. So I understand why Microsoft has chosen to draw the line at all multiplayer.
Oh really?
I'd say giving highly anticipated games is in fact "listening to gamers" not sure if that was the users point though.Lol what's this gotta do with the topic
Be a 20+ year old console fanboy brehs
I would not use a poll from a forum full of warriors as a measurement.And yet the vote thread here showed over 70% of 3000+ votes didn't care.
So I can play Fortnite without having XBL Gold?Oh really?
Do you own an Xbox? Have you tried playing Phantom Dust for example without being subscribed to XBL Gold? I sure did, and it worked.
Yes. Fairness towards devs of course, not towards us. But still.Yes. Fairness is the reason why MS puts Fortnite behind a paywall.
That's the thing I don't get, Sony didn't change their tune this gen.I hope Sony get taken down a peg or two next gen. They severely need a wake up call.
But if Xbox finds themselves back on top, will they change their tune just like Sony did this gen? I'd like to think Phil Spencer is a cooler dude than that, but who knows.
So do you also complain that you have to more than the actual game price if you want to play paid multiplayer-only games on PS4?And on PS4 F2P online multiplayer games don't cost me anything either. Not very pro consumer from Microsoft to charge for that don't you think?