Isn't this increases chances for localization since PS4 is mostly "western" console sales-wise?
Only if Level-5 pays the localization and publishing on their own, in the past they had Nintendo doing it for them.
They announced it was being localized before the announcement of the PS4 version during Anime Expo.Isn't this increases chances for localization since PS4 is mostly "western" console sales-wise?
Joseki, Dragon Quest (before XI) was in the same situaition wasnt it?
They better beg Bamco to make it happen - otherwise it will be a hard sell, as you said....self-publishing would mean its death.who will even publish the game in the west? if it's self-published it won't sell a whole lot.
That depends. I'm not sure if you know, but the stats show that the user base for PlayStation leans toward an older and male demographic (whereas Nintendo is more well-rounded). People who are loyal to PlayStation are usually people who avoid Nintendo platforms because of the "kiddie" image. In that case, YW4 only appeals to a very niche group of loyal PlayStation fans (that actually enjoys cartoon-like games but refuse to support Nintendo) or multi-platform gamers that prefer playing games on the PS4. It is a losing strategy if there is an overwhelming amount of evidence that they can't establish an audience on certain platforms. Even Capcom's low-effort ports on Switch sold more than YW++ on PS4. This is as bad as Yakuza 1+2 on Wii U, and that was on a dying platform.
The product itself isn't bad. It's the marketing and the multi-media approach that fucked everything up. The whole PS4 strategy didn't make much sense this late as well (though it probably wouldn't do well even if it's multi-plat on launch). Anyway, I personally hope this will help wake some people up -- especially the PlayStation fans that make up a ton of bullshit to justify games skipping Switch or other platforms. If anyone is here trying to justify why sub 3k sales is enough for it to be a good business strategy, then I better not hear them whine about how Switch owners are entitled for justifying games that would sell WAY MORE than 3k to be ported to the platform. This whole debacle showed me how much double standard and hypocrisy there are. It disturbs me that there is nothing done to curb this double standard on Era. It's been 2+ years and nothing has changed here.
witcher 3 has sold 13,609 [physical] copies in japan so far.This reminds me of the witcher 3 switch version bombing when it sold around 7K copies.
Clearly audience mismatch in both cases, but I think the witcher 3 is the worse case here because the port obviously took more effort to be made.
I expect them to self-publish like they are with Katrielle DX and Snack World Gold.who will even publish the game in the west? if it's self-published it won't sell a whole lot.
TW3's core audience isn't Japan (if it was it'd be a bomb on PS4 too given the scope of the project) and the Switch port did well enough globally for CDP to credit it for the upswing in their financials last quarter. Good try though, I remember you also implied Switch to be responsible for YW4's original subpar sales in the MC threads before funny enough.This reminds me of the witcher 3 switch version bombing when it sold around 7K copies.
Clearly audience mismatch in both cases, but I think the witcher 3 is the worse case here because the port obviously took more effort to be made.
It's impossible that they ported it to PS4 thinking in Japan sales, right?
Right?
They probably thought of Europe.It's impossible that they ported it to PS4 thinking in Japan sales, right?
Right?
They probably thought of Europe.
Where Yo-Kai Watch is even more dead than in Japan and will probably release at the same time as the PS5 launch games.
Solid strategy
3DS accesories being cleared from stores is cruelty now? Not sure what are you trying to prove.Since long ago I wanted to show this pic. This happened in Akiba during the launch of a Sword and Shield.
WARNING, CRUELTY DEPICTED
the imagery of the YW branded merch in the discount bin right next to product it competed with on a fancy table3DS accesories being cleared from stores is cruelty now? Not sure what are you trying to prove.
It's a joke since Pokémon is doing well sales wise while Yokai watch is in the bargain bin.3DS accesories being cleared from stores is cruelty now? Not sure what are you trying to prove.
the imagery of the YW branded merch in the discount bin right next to product it competed with on a fancy table
I don't doubt that Pokemon branded 3DS accesories are being discounted too. Of course SwSh sold way more than YK4 but in the case of that pic is an unfair comparision.It's a joke since Pokémon is doing well sales wise while Yokai watch is in the bargain bin.
I mean, yea, but that's not why the picture was taken, it's all about the imagery of Pokemon vs YW. fairness isn't the pointI don't doubt that Pokemon branded 3DS accesories are being discounted too. Of course SwSh sold way more than YK4 but in the case of that pic is an unfair comparision.
It's a joke, not a 1:1 comparison.I don't doubt that Pokemon branded 3DS accesories are being discounted too. Of course SwSh sold way more than YK4 but in the case of that pic is an unfair comparision.
Updated numbersin case anyone was wondering, this came out and flopped on both platforms:
NSW - Yo-kai Watch 4 ++ - 10.333
PS4 - Yo-kai Watch 4 ++ - less than 2.893 (didn't chart in the top 30)
Well, about that, it's been 9 months since its release and still no signs of a localization.Isn't this increases chances for localization since PS4 is mostly "western" console sales-wise?
Level 5 confirmed a western release so it'll happen some day. Katrielle DX and Snack World Gold both took well over a year so I'd expect the same with YW4.Well, about that, it's been 9 months since its release and still no signs of a localization.
But we know it always takes years for Level 5 to localize their games.
Updated numbers
089./000. [NSW] Yo-kai Watch 4++ <RPG> (Level 5) {2019.12.05} (¥6.480) - 51.623 / NEW (10.885 <17,78%>)
305./000. [PS4] Yo-kai Watch 4++ <RPG> (Level 5) {2019.12.05} (¥6.480) - 8.650 / NEW (4.321 <36,39%>)
Well, about that, it's been 9 months since its release and still no signs of a localization.
But we know it always takes years for Level 5 to localize their games.
And if anyone is wondering about it, Inazuma ElevenAresHeroes' Great Road is still MIA.
Yeah it'll come here, it's just disappointing that Level 5 still take so long for WW releases.Level 5 confirmed a western release so it'll happen some day. Katrielle DX and Snack World Gold both took well over a year so I'd expect the same with YW4.
Yeah it'll come here, it's just disappointing that Level 5 still take so long for WW releases.
they confirmed it so long ago, plans may have changed.Level 5 confirmed a western release so it'll happen some day. Katrielle DX and Snack World Gold both took well over a year so I'd expect the same with YW4.
They are flopping around real bad which sucks because I really just want the next Inazuma Eleven game to come out.Also, a Yokai Watch spin-off anime happened, and also a game that was download only on Switch.妖怪学園Y ~ワイワイ学園生活~ ダウンロード版
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What is going on with Level 5 lol
EDIT: This is also coming to PS4 *sometime*
They can self publish like Snack Worldthey confirmed it so long ago, plans may have changed.
personally i don't expect it to be localized. who's even gonna publish it? i know they self published the last layton but nintendo was still handing the distribution of physical copies. i don't think bamco (publisher of ni no kuni games outside of japan) would be interested either.
snack-world and and layton mystery journey were self-published by level-5 but nintendo handled the physical release. so unless yw4 is digital only, they need someone to handle the physical release for them.
Thats not too hard, they can ask someone like Merge Games or Limited Run Games to handle physical releasesnack-world and and layton mystery journey were self-published by level-5 but nintendo handled the physical release. so unless yw4 is digital only, they need someone to handle the physical release for them.
I don't know if NISA can handle the transmedia aspect.It would be funny if this did come to the west but only on Nintendo Switch because Level 5 couldn't get anyone else on board. NISA seems to be taking anything they get so they could be a good shot.
Worse than that the owners of YW4 on Switch could upgrade their copy digitally for around 1650Y (~15€).Updated numbers
089./000. [NSW] Yo-kai Watch 4++ <RPG> (Level 5) {2019.12.05} (¥6.480) - 51.623 / NEW (10.885 <17,78%>)
305./000. [PS4] Yo-kai Watch 4++ <RPG> (Level 5) {2019.12.05} (¥6.480) - 8.650 / NEW (4.321 <36,39%>)
i guess that's possible, yeah. i'm curious to see who's gonna publish it if they actually end up localizing the game.Thats not too hard, they can ask someone like Merge Games or Limited Run Games to handle physical release
I don't know if NISA can handle the transmedia aspect.
Of course, on the other hand I doubt that there are television networks interested in broadcasting the anime, at least among my nephews and no one is interested in Yo-kai Watch.
If Level-5 is holding up the western localization because of a last ditch effort to get the anime back on TV and merch back on the shelves, they will have no one but themselves to blame when those choices sink them for good. Not that I would expect YW4 to push anything in the west regardless, but they have to read the room.I don't know if NISA can handle the transmedia aspect.
Of course, on the other hand I doubt that there are television networks interested in broadcasting the anime, at least among my nephews and no one is interested in Yo-kai Watch.
Not so long ago here in Spain, anime and toys were quite popular with children, that has completely disappeared.If Level-5 is holding up the western localization because of a last ditch effort to get the anime back on TV and merch back on the shelves, they will have no one but themselves to blame when those choices sink them for good. Not that I would expect YW4 to push anything in the west regardless, but they have to read the room.