Your perfect, ideal (but unrealistic) vision of Earth.
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You can take justice into your own hands, join tight knight communities like in Jackson or the WLF, there's basically free housing, nature makes a comeback, and there would be way less CO2 emissions.
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Hmmm. I see your point, but it wouldn't be a dictatorship because the micro regions would be able to vote for their chosen micro president from their community. Then, every four years the whole world votes for a major Prime president who runs the show.
You say it's not about "flash shit", but why do we chose what to wear, why do we want a fresh haircut or want to buy a new Kenzo hoodie? It's to look good for other people. You're not dressing up in designer clothes or getting a £50 haircut to impress yourself in the mirror are you? But this causes a divided because not everyone can afford the flashiest clothes, jewellery or haircuts. This makes it fair.
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Yes. I could get behind this! When war is declared, the leaders of the waring nations must have a naked dance off. Guarantee war would be a thing of the past if that was the rule.
Can these be the identical hair styles everyone is forced to have?
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Can these be the identical hair styles everyone is forced to have?
I was thinking of maybe everyone having a reverse mohawk, but your idea is probably better.
And yet...
Doesn't sound very far left to me.
Governance:
Global foundational trust. Meaning a legal trust where every human is a beneficiary. Trust benefits can not be relinquished. Board of Trustees is elected via ranked voting system. Trust maintains a private organization with the goal of improving the quality of life for all beneficiaries whose articles of organization are drafted by beneficiary elected legal non-profits. Organization operates in core utility and goods sectors providing more sustainable housing, transportation, food, utilities, goods, and services at sustainable margins.
Urban structure:
Cities condensed into vernacular modular arcologies connected by a high speed rail network. Agriculture condensed into hydroponic farms.
Public park lands expanded. Rural living by permit and limited by acreage per household.
Social discourse tracked and maintained through a publicly accessed trust maintained argument database. Points of contentioned are logged, public opinion is tallied via validated user identities, contexts listed per point of contention, evidence sources listed per point, evidences being able to be nodes of points of contention themselves, with unique IDs for each point for quick referencing on other sites to point out the current state of argument and evidence backing it for any argument online or IRL. (I'd call this site Thiscourse because I'm cheesy)
Global foundational trust. Meaning a legal trust where every human is a beneficiary. Trust benefits can not be relinquished. Board of Trustees is elected via ranked voting system. Trust maintains a private organization with the goal of improving the quality of life for all beneficiaries whose articles of organization are drafted by beneficiary elected legal non-profits. Organization operates in core utility and goods sectors providing more sustainable housing, transportation, food, utilities, goods, and services at sustainable margins.
Urban structure:
Cities condensed into vernacular modular arcologies connected by a high speed rail network. Agriculture condensed into hydroponic farms.
Public park lands expanded. Rural living by permit and limited by acreage per household.
Social discourse tracked and maintained through a publicly accessed trust maintained argument database. Points of contentioned are logged, public opinion is tallied via validated user identities, contexts listed per point of contention, evidence sources listed per point, evidences being able to be nodes of points of contention themselves, with unique IDs for each point for quick referencing on other sites to point out the current state of argument and evidence backing it for any argument online or IRL. (I'd call this site Thiscourse because I'm cheesy)
This sounds like Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge or early Mao China.
That scenario of reshaping the world seems to risky. I'd rather take the best of what we have and just relocate to another galaxy or universe. Wouldn't want to bumb with the assholes left in earth, imagine thinking you found another civilization just to find out it's the humans from earth.
I'd move to another world similar to earth and start with a moderate size civilization, let's say the size of Europe. From there I'd start by removing the worst thing created, taking the best things and adding a few things that are impossible do to current mindsets.
So far it would mean:
Religion: The practice of any religion new or old is banned. Reading/Studying about it is not. Individuals caught practicing it or enforcing it would face jail time. Multiple infractions would lead to execution.
The reason for this is to stop religion from getting in the way. Religion has never done something good or positive
Education: Almost the same as the current one with the only difference being health/sex Ed class being more in depth ( also must be taken multiple years not yearly tho) and one more year of high school in which students will learn the basics society like being a functioning individual to society and also teaching about the economy, which includes taxes and whatnot.
Politics: Only one government, democraticno parties, no divisions, only progression in mind. We expand as a country, not divided and create new self ruling governments, and the reason for that is that as time goes on conflict would be created between the two or more governments made.
(Everything might be okay the first few hundred years but then someone like a trump or Hitler might arise)
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The government funding would all go to science and health since there's no need for a military.
Kinda busy right now so can't go more in depth but that basically a quick and dirty summary of what I'd do
I'd move to another world similar to earth and start with a moderate size civilization, let's say the size of Europe. From there I'd start by removing the worst thing created, taking the best things and adding a few things that are impossible do to current mindsets.
So far it would mean:
Religion: The practice of any religion new or old is banned. Reading/Studying about it is not. Individuals caught practicing it or enforcing it would face jail time. Multiple infractions would lead to execution.
The reason for this is to stop religion from getting in the way. Religion has never done something good or positive
Education: Almost the same as the current one with the only difference being health/sex Ed class being more in depth ( also must be taken multiple years not yearly tho) and one more year of high school in which students will learn the basics society like being a functioning individual to society and also teaching about the economy, which includes taxes and whatnot.
Politics: Only one government, democraticno parties, no divisions, only progression in mind. We expand as a country, not divided and create new self ruling governments, and the reason for that is that as time goes on conflict would be created between the two or more governments made.
(Everything might be okay the first few hundred years but then someone like a trump or Hitler might arise)
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The government funding would all go to science and health since there's no need for a military.
Kinda busy right now so can't go more in depth but that basically a quick and dirty summary of what I'd do
I hate capitalism as much as the next guy but I'll put up with this late stage capitalistic hell scape way before I'll let anyone decide what I'm gonna fucking wear. Freedom is important to humanity. No not freedom from government like the right keeps talking about. But freedom of expression, free will, and freedom to do what I want with my body. If you want to tell people what to wear you just one step away from telling the who they can love. And fuck that.
No slippery slope needed, The OP is already ZERO steps from telling you who you can love...
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LMAO. Come on now. This must be a troll post.
"Our" head. This is an idea my wife and I have been working on for sometime now.
That's enough of this thread for me
Seems kinda extreme I know but 🤷🏻♂️
I have always and will always hate the idea of a "skill based" employment placement system.
A lot of what the two of you came up with sounds dystopian.
You're not welcome your civilization is shittier than mine :v
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Why? Think about. Everything is provided for you, but in return you'll need to work a job that matches your skill set. This means that you'll be good at the role and more likely to enjoy it. Sod getting assigned a job for life that you don't enjoy.
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You're dystopian civilization kills people for following religion. The death sentence and even prisons and police have been absolshed in mine and religion is still legal.
Your skill set tells me you'd be great at cleaning out this sewer or working in this coal mine
Thats what the military does.
On that front I've thought about this quite a few times in the past. Militarily organization, from my experience in the army, is the closest existing thing to true communism. Housing provided, food provided, work assigned based on skill, labor divided by need, etc.
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Hmmmmm. Never thought of the military like that. Now I'll probably always think of the military in that way 😂
Develop the ARK. Transplant all persons into the ARK where they can live their perfect life in a digital landscape replicating much of Earth but with vast improvements to adjust for human error. Humans eventually go extinct. Earth moves on without new human interference.
edit: I guess it's not fair to try and do things in the real world unrealistically.
Nazism and white supremacy is banned. Replicators exist. Star Trek life begins.
edit: I guess it's not fair to try and do things in the real world unrealistically.
Nazism and white supremacy is banned. Replicators exist. Star Trek life begins.
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My ideal vision of earth is one where I have complete control over it but no one is aware of it.
Op's sounds hellish. I'm curious what happens to someone if they decide they don't want to wear the same clothes or hairstyle as everyone else?
Op's sounds hellish. I'm curious what happens to someone if they decide they don't want to wear the same clothes or hairstyle as everyone else?
I despise our current system, but I'll take it over what the OP proposed. Good lord.
How about this:
- Universal healthcare for all
- Strong progressive tax system
- Green policies that create jobs and fight climate change
- UBI for all, if you want to earn more, learn a skill
- All education is paid for by tax dollars
- Religion is permitted, but never at the expense of science
Let's start here on a global scale and see how it goes.
How about this:
- Universal healthcare for all
- Strong progressive tax system
- Green policies that create jobs and fight climate change
- UBI for all, if you want to earn more, learn a skill
- All education is paid for by tax dollars
- Religion is permitted, but never at the expense of science
Let's start here on a global scale and see how it goes.
Straight eco fascism and an Era member as god/emperor hahahaha
This thread worries me
i didn't have time to explain my jail system. Trust me my jail system ain't like you're probably imagining where prisoners are treated like animals. It's more of a facility for your and society betterment, and nice looking too, like a Sweden jail system. Religion is nothing more than an obstacle.
In your system I can use religion to my advantage, create a cult and overthrow your system completely, and make whatever entity my cult believes in, it's leader.
Haha, I made an adjustment to my post to make it less fascist.
i didn't have time to explain my jail system. Trust me my jail system ain't like you're probably imagining where prisoners are treated like animals. It's more of a facility for your and society betterment, and nice looking too, like a Sweden jail system. Religion is nothing more than an obstacle.
In your system I can use religion to my advantage, create a cult and overthrow your system completely, and make whatever entity my cult believes in, it's leader.
How does your system define religion? How does it define practicing religion?
Much more reasonable ;)
I'm at work so I'll give a quick definition, still kinda hard to explain but I'd consider it a religion if:
-it involves believing by faith in an imaginary all powerful entity/or person
-instills fear
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Haven't really ironed out all the details yet, but I would think re-education would be the way forward. Continue breaking the rules and your forced to live in castaway island.
I believe in causal determinism and inevitable entropy and I believe these both fit both of these criteria.
Xinjiang internment camps - Wikipedia
I think you might want to really take a long look at this stuff, OP - these are pretty dangerous ideas.
I mean dude you aren't even trying. This sounds like 100% hell.
INFRACTION: Multiple hairstyles outside conventional/allowed styles
RE-EDUCATION CAMP: Re-learn your love of government! One hair-style for all supports us all, peace in unity, peace in unity
*Person crying and screaming, just for the freedom to style their hair*
SENT TO HELL ISLAND, NEVER TO RETURN
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i didn't have time to explain my jail system. Trust me my jail system ain't like you're probably imagining where prisoners are treated like animals. It's more of a facility for your and society betterment, and nice looking too, like a Sweden jail system. Religion is nothing more than an obstacle.
In your system I can use religion to my advantage, create a cult and overthrow your system completely, and make whatever entity my cult believes in, it's leader.
Good luck. My system has done away with modern weapons. The only weapons that exist are the melee weapons used by the citizens watch.
Check mate.
Well yes but no, I mean you're not out there instilling fear telling people they'll burn in hell or saying same sex marriage is bad.
OP, what job would artists be assigned?
And if their special skill is art, who is to decide that they're skilled or not? Who decides that somebody is skilled at choosing whether other artists are skilled or not?
And if their special skill is art, who is to decide that they're skilled or not? Who decides that somebody is skilled at choosing whether other artists are skilled or not?
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Xinjiang internment camps - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
I think you might want to really take a long look at this stuff, OP - these are pretty dangerous ideas.
Yeah, but here is the difference. In my civilization I said if you kept breaking the norm you go to an Island? That might be a benefit. The island is a free of all of my civilizations rules. It's not really a punishment
Anything and everything can be a Weapon, and necessity is the mother of invention.
Religion as it's defined in your system is not needed for that or even necessarily the root of that. Hell modern conservatism is more a religion in that sense but without your first criteria. If hate and ignorance are your targets than they can be addressed more directly without implementing a cultural expression death police.