srtrestre

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These threads need more click baity titles like the ones for the UK sales threads. Something like "Game Building Garage doubles sales of FF7 Remake and R&C combined". That would certainly get the rest of Era's attention lol
No thanks. MC threads get enough random hate as it is.
 

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These threads need more click baity titles like the ones for the UK sales threads. Something like "Game Building Garage doubles sales of FF7 Remake and R&C combined". That would certainly get the rest of Era's attention lol
"Game Builder Garage destroys Sony exclusives as Xbox closes the gap" is in my drafts.
 

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From the previous thread

Decent numbers for Intergrade considering the price and been a free upgrade

If price was similar to dq11s on ps then I would expected more

Ff15 royal did around 6k for comparison
 

MegaXZero

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If PS5 is being scalped out of the country, nothing is stopping the Xbox from being scalped too.
 

K Samedi

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Surprising Game Builder Garage sales. I didn't expect it to move so many units. The digital rates must be high too. Wonder how it will perform the coming weeks. Hope it's another unexpected hit.
 

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That's a pretty nice debut for GBG. Probably has a high digital ratio as well.
 

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08./00. [PS4] Guilty Gear: Strive # <FTG> (Arc System Works) {2021.06.11} (¥7.800) - 11.722 / NEW
Literally 4 percent of the amount they have sold worldwide.

And then you have Harada going on about designing Tekken's wack netcode according to the greatness of Japan's online infrastructure.
 

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Everyone will love this thread again when FF16 drop and DQ12 reveal its platform of money hat....ahem....choice.
 

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Literally 4 percent of the amount they have sold worldwide.

And then you have Harada going on about designing Tekken's wack netcode according to the greatness of Japan's online infrastructure.
It's funny that's suddenly when Japan is the focus...the netcode lol.
 
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Literally 4 percent of the amount they have sold worldwide.

And then you have Harada going on about designing Tekken's wack netcode according to the greatness of Japan's online infrastructure.
When you include PC, PS5, digital and unsold copies you'll go over 10%.
 

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DS (2007) VS 3DS (2012) VS Switch (2021)

Code:
|----|---------------------|---------------------|--------------------|
|    |        NDS          |         3DS         |      Switch        |
|----|----------|----------|----------|----------|---------|----------|
|Week|  Weekly  |   2007   |  Weekly  |   2012   |  Weekly |   2021   |
|----|----------|----------|----------|----------|---------|----------|
|  01|   305.321|   305.321|   203.605|   203.605|  312.121|   312.121|
|  02|   107.892|   413.213|   257.377|   460.982|  167.596|   479.717|
|  03|   134.053|   547.266|   101.697|   562.679|  170.691|   650.408|
|  04|   190.540|   737.806|    77.519|   640.198|  110.811|   761.219|
|  05|   175.879|   913.685|    81.699|   721.897|  114.170|   875.389|
|  06|   165.458| 1.079.143|    69.180|   791.077|   88.485|   963.874|
|  07|   144.060| 1.223.203|    60.231|   851.308|  109.615| 1.073.489|
|  08|   134.626| 1.357.829|    88.909|   940.217|   74.298| 1.147.787|
|  09|   115.060| 1.472.889|    72.032| 1.012.249|   78.049| 1.225.836|
|  10|   103.546| 1.576.435|    71.797| 1.084.046|   89.927| 1.315.763|
|  11|   128.511| 1.704.946|    63.717| 1.147.763|   72.610| 1.388.373|
|  12|   159.498| 1.864.444|    63.746| 1.211.509|   89.104| 1.477.477|
|  13|    83.900| 1.948.344|    94.776| 1.306.285|  267.497| 1.744.974|
|  14|   118.774| 2.067.118|   118.072| 1.424.357|  135.076| 1.880.050|
|  15|   124.536| 2.191.654|    67.613| 1.491.970|   96.259| 1.976.309|
|  16|   158.189| 2.349.843|    62.653| 1.554.623|   94.057| 2.070.366|
|  17|   219.656| 2.569.499|    80.561| 1.635.184|  105.833| 2.176.199|
|  18|   219.291| 2.788.790|    71.282| 1.706.466|  165.268| 2.341.467|
|  19|   160.312| 2.949.102|    88.226| 1.794.692|   70.760| 2.412.227|
|  20|   112.309| 3.061.411|    45.063| 1.839.755|   95.411| 2.507.638|
|  21|   128.758| 3.190.169|    41.712| 1.881.467|   99.118| 2.606.756|
|  22|   117.013| 3.307.182|    51.840| 1.933.271|   71.148| 2.677.904|
|  23|   115.058| 3.422.240|   101.718| 2.034.989|   97.208| 2.775.112|
|  24|   136.393| 3.558.633|    61.212| 2.096.201|   78.317| 2.853.429|
|  25|   166.548| 3.725.181|    56.394| 2.152.595|         |          |
|  26|   153.983| 3.878.540|    66.953| 2.219.548|         |          |
|  27|   119.824| 3.998.364|    65.267| 2.284.815|         |          |
|  28|   135.946| 4.134.310|    51.930| 2.336.745|         |          |
|  29|   143.619| 4.277.929|    46.633| 2.383.378|         |          |
|  30|   164.481| 4.442.410|    44.202| 2.427.580|         |          |
|  31|   143.619| 4.586.066|   235.974| 2.663.554|         |          |
|  32|   153.983| 4.740.049|   118.786| 2.782.340|         |          |
|  33|   164.654| 4.904.703|   108.897| 2.891.237|         |          |
|  34|   116.506| 5.021.209|   107.140| 2.998.377|         |          |
|  35|   101.248| 5.122.457|    64.921| 3.063.298|         |          |
|  36|    78.980| 5.201.437|    67.926| 3.131.224|         |          |
|  37|    74.520| 5.275.957|    57.305| 3.188.529|         |          |
|  38|    66.121| 5.342.078|    56.970| 3.245.499|         |          |
|  39|    71.839| 5.413.917|    59.199| 3.304.698|         |          |
|  40|    76.560| 5.490.477|    77.183| 3.381.881|         |          |
|  41|    80.260| 5.570.737|    58.233| 3.440.114|         |          |
|  42|    77.810| 5.648.547|    78.401| 3.518.515|         |          |
|  43|    83.436| 5.731.983|    60.033| 3.578.548|         |          |
|  44|    80.272| 5.812.255|    60.079| 3.638.627|         |          |
|  45|    81.631| 5.893.886|    82.644| 3.721.271|         |          |
|  46|    80.827| 5.974.713|   168.662| 3.889.933|         |          |
|  47|   115.529| 6.090.242|   170.559| 4.060.492|         |          |
|  48|   126.347| 6.216.589|   158.527| 4.219.019|         |          |
|  49|   164.576| 6.381.165|   154.654| 4.373.673|         |          |
|  50|   248.670| 6.629.835|   219.103| 4.592.776|         |          |
|  51|   319.051| 6.948.886|   333.409| 4.926.185|         |          |
|  52|   194.816| 7.143.702|   433.788| 5.359.973|         |          |
|  53|          |          |   266.790| 5.626.763|         |          |
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YasuYone

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PS5 games finally appeared but it doesnt look really good. You can fake all the hardware numbers as you can, but software sales.......
 

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As pointed by the interview and by the vast majority of people living in Japan, it will depend on stock levels, not saying the ceiling is high or anything like that.. but clearly not meeting demand as we speak.

Even today amazon jp got some stock, sold out asap and it's first on the rankings..
Honestly even this is still understating the situation; the reality is that Xbox Series is the worst-performing hardware that Microsoft has ever released in Japan.
 

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Honestly even this is still understating the situation; the reality is that Xbox Series is the worst-performing hardware that Microsoft has ever released in Japan.

Taking in account the gap is less than 5k now, closing more and more every week, and there's nothing on the shelfs left to sell, when at the same time xbox one had day 1 stock being left unsold years into the generation.. I'd say with confidence, ms is liking this scenario way more.
 

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This whole conversation made me tired. Let's make things more interesting.

*ahem*

How high are the odds that Game Builder Garage's first-week sales in Japan are higher than Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade, Guilty Gear Strive (PS4 + PS5) and Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart combined?

Bow down to your messiah everyone :P

More serious comment: Game Builder Garage went quite higher than what I was expecting and even Ratchet & Clank sold slightly more than what I was expecting; meanwhile, FFVIIR Intergrade did more or less what I was expecting.

Now, bringing back the discussion about the state of the PS ecosystem (which is one of the most important topics right now looking at the way the market is developing), I'd say that Integrade can't be taken as a good indicator of its health: don't forget how customers who already bought the original release last year could upgrade to the PS5 version for free and then buy the Yuffie DLC separately. This means that its retail sales aren't nearly as representative of its actual demand as usual. Ratchet is low but it's not unusual for the current state of the franchise. Guilty Gear Strive, on the other hand...this is how much Xrd: Sign and its re-releases sold during their debut weeks (Famitsu)

04./00. [PS3] Guilty Gear Xrd: Sign <FTG> (Arc System Works) {2014.12.04} (¥7.538) - 34.068 / NEW <60-80%>
16./00. [PS4] Guilty Gear Xrd: Sign # <FTG> (Arc System Works) {2014.12.04} (¥7.538) - 13.967 / NEW <40-60%>

05./00. [PS4] Guilty Gear Xrd: Revelator # <FTG> (Arc System Works) {2016.05.26} (¥6.800) - 17.829 / NEW
08./00. [PS3] Guilty Gear Xrd: Revelator # <FTG> (Arc System Works) {2016.05.26} (¥6.800) - 9.385 / NEW

04./00. [PS4] Guilty Gear Xrd: Rev 2 <FTG> (Arc System Works) {2017.05.25} (¥4.800) - 13.177 / NEW <60-80%>

08./00. [PS4] Guilty Gear: Strive # <FTG> (Arc System Works) {2021.06.11} (¥7.800) - 11.722 / NEW

It's an important decrease and while the PS5 SKU sales are still missing for a fairer comparison... if Amazon.co.jp rankings, Comgnet and Tsutaya Top 20s represent the overall market well enough, there won't be a drastic difference in the end.
 

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Xbox sales shoot up the same month I buy one. Coincidence? (Yes.)
If PS5 is being scalped out of the country, nothing is stopping the Xbox from being scalped too.
Most likely.
Although anecdotally, while I've seen scalped Japanese PS5s over here, I haven't seen scalped Xboxes. I suppose it's probably because those are getting regular restocks.
 

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Taking in account the gap is less than 5k now, closing more and more every week, and there's nothing on the shelfs left to sell, when at the same time xbox one had day 1 stock being left unsold years into the generation.. I'd say with confidence, ms is liking this scenario way more.
Well, yes, in the sense of "does a company prefer X to X+5", but the Xbox One itself that you are comparing to is a nadir like no other in the "mainstream" console space in Japan, so I don't know that that head-to-head is particularly reassuring.
 

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Honestly I wasn't expecting nearly that much for GBG. Maybe the lower price helped?

Nintendo's been doing quite well with new IPs in the last few years.
 

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These threads need more click baity titles like the ones for the UK sales threads. Something like "Game Building Garage doubles sales of FF7 Remake and R&C combined". That would certainly get the rest of Era's attention lol

Those clickbaity threads seem to be in response to the MC threads or some meta commentary about performance of certain games.

the last thing these threads need is more attention from the rest of era, lol. as it is, there's enough people who hate these threads for no reason.
I have a few guesses why, the data is too good, even better than the UK threads and they can't make unsbustantiated nonsense claims and hope to get away with it.
 

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Well, yes, in the sense of "does a company prefer X to X+5", but the Xbox One itself that you are comparing to is a nadir like no other in the "mainstream" console space in Japan, so I don't know that that head-to-head is particularly reassuring.

You can downplay it all you want it (and I agree that beating xbox one doesn't mean much, even if it's a better sign to do it than not), but it was that exact head to head you were talking about when saying it was the worse performing xbox ever.

What we have right now is xbox series home console, only 3504 behind xbox one, with normal stock it would go above within 1 month (but I doubt it will have sotck levels that good), plus xbox is no longer just the home console like it was back then, now there's the whole pc space which is small in Japan but growing some, plus mobile (xcloud) will come into place later this year, that's all reasons to believe it will be a much more successful generation in Japan(won't come close to x360 I think, by most metrics, but would be wonderful if it did), should help get more jp support for the ww scenario (the most important part of the equation) all net positive for xbox players.
 
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Japan will carry heavily Game Builder Garage worldwide but it has 4 quarters to reach 1m and get its sales split.
 

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FFVIIR Intergrade did great, much more than FFXV Royal Edition despite being a expensive edition for a upgrade and a DLC that you can get much more cheaper
 

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Rachet doing similar to two big Nintendo exclusives is not a click bait title and nothing on the UK charts are nonsensical data

If Rachet was compared with bravery default 2 or late port/free upgrade, that would be click bait.

Just an example^

FFVIIR Intergrade did great, much more than FFXV Royal Edition despite being a expensive edition for a upgrade and a DLC that you can get much more cheaper
There is nothing great about the sales , just ok for what it is
 

jroc74

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Rift Apart and FFVII Intergrade??

I'm just shocked to see any PS5 games at all on the list.
 

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Thoughs on Guilty Gear debut? I was hoping for more tbh.
Just comparing it to the past numbers Mpl90 posted on this page its indeed disappointing.
Its a bit weird to honest how the series is performing worse and worse while looking more and more impressive. The GG audience on PS systems is shrinking right now.

Thankfully they have the West + the PC version to more than offset these losses. Still a bit of a downer these games not getting appreciated more in their domestic market.
 

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I was late to the Metroid Dread predictions: I think the game could exceed 3M but I think it's more likely to land close to 2.5M.