Don't see how nin's role could be a scum one and I would prefer town not getting distracted from a good flip.
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Conspiracy Mafia 2 |OT| Where you can overthink everything and not sound like a crazy person
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If that is the case then I am less wary then
But what reassurance do we have of the gamerunner(autocorrect wants to correct it to GameCube lol) not giving that messages has a scum deceptive power? being an anti bomber basically allowes you to camp until endgame if you are scum
Not that its worth discussing rn, but if a bomber body doesn't flip eventually it Will have to be looked on
Bomb was planted N4. Presumably it wasn't in the quarters, since Ket was forced there last night and we got no fancy message about the spooks being gone. Re-checking suspects...
It is malus and kitchen, isn't it? turmoil was blocked N4. nin was in quarters with Tearable.
MOVE: Library
It is malus and kitchen, isn't it? turmoil was blocked N4. nin was in quarters with Tearable.
MOVE: Library
So between Maol and Malus, I'm thinking Malus after Maol hit that day vig. Unless that was an item power.
You're all mad! You're all absolutely mad and I'm the only sane one here!
On Sparks: Nin don't insult players while you're gamethrowing, it just makes you look like a jerk. What's the point of having a resident Sparks expert if you don't listen to them? Nin is probably town, especially with claiming vanilla first, but I'm still wary.
On bomber: Why are people doubting Ketkat now of all days when we've been told that for this day specifically we can't all stack in a room, y'know so we can't all be in the room ketkat just checked and survive.
On auction: Any news on that EzekelRAGE ? You might have been the only one in it if it happened in the rec room/kitchen haha. Verelios you still haven't claimed what your item does I believe?
On Sparks: Nin don't insult players while you're gamethrowing, it just makes you look like a jerk. What's the point of having a resident Sparks expert if you don't listen to them? Nin is probably town, especially with claiming vanilla first, but I'm still wary.
On bomber: Why are people doubting Ketkat now of all days when we've been told that for this day specifically we can't all stack in a room, y'know so we can't all be in the room ketkat just checked and survive.
On auction: Any news on that EzekelRAGE ? You might have been the only one in it if it happened in the rec room/kitchen haha. Verelios you still haven't claimed what your item does I believe?
DAY 1
After reading back, that Aeleus post really sparked a lot of conversation. It seems like a couple confirmed scum responded to it. So far, not convinced Aeleus is scum.
He calls out Fanto.
I need to look into Kalor. Since VA flipped Town, I'm not sure what my initial read is on Kalor.
Well, I was going to say that this could be a brave bus or an obvious pocket, but I guess it doesn't really matter anymore.
Did some complaining about Fanto, but no pressure or questioning.
But decides to question nin, which makes me think they're not on the same team.
Nin says it all here. Lazy voting. No pressure = no reason to change your votes. Idky Fanto changed so easily. Nothing was learned.
IIRC Sneeks was a Town read for Fanto at this time.
A wee prod.
This could be an insane bus or Sneeks really trying to cement an argument against Aeleus.
After reading back, that Aeleus post really sparked a lot of conversation. It seems like a couple confirmed scum responded to it. So far, not convinced Aeleus is scum.
For some reason this makes me think Maol isn't scum. Especially with the Faddy flip, I can see Sorian trying to get arguments settled in against them early on to prepare for late(r) game.
Wee's response to the ping. Bae never responds to them. Even after mentioning later on that she doesn't like their posts so far, there's still no pressure there. Nor was there a reason why wee was pinged in the first place. Could be nothing, but something I noticed.
Oh, there it is. Was there an explanation as to why Sneeks was apart of that list?
This is a fun take.
Wee has been going after Bae since the beginning. But the other way around has been a thing, too. Has OMGUS ever been discussed between them? Because if not, this could be a shallow back and forth/bus. I guess I'll learn when I read D2 and D3.
I have to agree with Monkey here. It's the reason why I highlighted Monkey above because reading D1 I noticed Monkey was putting in some great work.
Sorian going back and forth between Mao and Faddy. In the meantime, he's making it seem like he doesn't believe nin is scum by questioning the train.
He calls out Fanto.
I found this interesting. Why would wee need to respond to that post? There were no questions asked and it's not like wee was being quoted/replied to.
Questions the nin wagon again.
Yep, Sorian was scum. This has his scum playstyle written all over it. lol
Sneeks still up there.
There's that post about wee I was referring to earliers. Also, that post about Mao makes still think they are not on the same team together.
Hmm. Then why was nin a null read before? Bae went out of her way to say she didn't like wee's posts in the previous post, but never mentioned not liking nin's posts before. Just said he was null…
I need to look into Kalor. Since VA flipped Town, I'm not sure what my initial read is on Kalor.
Again scum aiming for an Aeleus argument… Stands out.
I don't think Malus is scum at this point.
Interesting Vere pointed this out. I wish he would have been questioned about it at this time. Not even Sneeks asked him why he said that… Really stuck out to me.
A Chuggs and Vere callout.
The progression of Saw going from WOULD NOT VOTE TODAY to this is amazing.
Hot take: Malus isn't scum. Nin isn't scum. Fanto is… Idk.
This is GOOD mafia. Monkey might be my favorite Mafia player now.
Really throwing nin's name around a lot.
Lol
Hmm… Wanting to know why Zeke was a train. Noted.
Feelin like Malus isn't scum
My item is a one shot protect and antidote. I don't think there's poison in the game so that's pretty useless.
You had it happen once, right? What do you think the lack of steals means?
I think I agree with this to be honest. Day 4 I was in the Library as the bomb was planted, so by not picking a spot yesterday, I moved to the Quarters and we didn't get a message about the danger passing. Which should leave Malus as the most likely person to have planted stuff, unless Maol's vig shot was an item of some kind
Ok, there is no item thief, I lied. In a convulted way I thought it could make me pull a nk, hitting my bp.
Now that that's out of the way.
I got two items last night....... 😁
Now that that's out of the way.
I got two items last night....... 😁
Can you explain this logic a bit more? Why would someone target you for a night kill after thinking that you had an item stolen?
And so finally Zeke being able to win items from rooms he wasn't in has been verified.
In case it isn't obvious, I was the other person in the auction and won the other item. In case people were wondering how I was able to participate in 3 auctions in a row it's because I looked on the map and realized they were going in a pretty pattern. I don't know how the rest of you didn't see it.
(What did you bid, I went 1 5 4)
1 aspirin is re
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Someone else was in the auction last night, they win handcuffs.
I got a screwdriver which disarms the bomb (hence why I moved into the kitchen after kyan implied bomb was there)
and aspirin that saves a random kill at night.
i said it was a bp. I think I misplayed in my back and forth with maol on the items saying the items were good.
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Someone else was in the auction last night, they win handcuffs.
I got a screwdriver which disarms the bomb (hence why I moved into the kitchen after kyan implied bomb was there)
and aspirin that saves a random kill at night.
Also turmoils movement during that whole overuse thing.
Reading back on it turmoil didn't vote, but did seem to egg it on.
Reading back on it turmoil didn't vote, but did seem to egg it on.
Oh man, I did, sorry Zeke. I haven't slept for a couple days so I've been mixing things up recently, that's my bad.
So actually playing the game, lets look at votes! (I really need a malus graph right now)
Major problems for me when considering voting are:
A) Who supported the rival trains for Sawneeks D1
B) Who supported voting Terra or Kalor D2
C) Who was absolutely comfertable with Zipped v Blarg
Nin: On Sawneeks early, stayed on Bae during the pull towards kalor and the Sorian check. Turboed Bae D3. Late on Zipped D4, and awfully override Sparks D5.
Hasn't voted town once. Once he made a decision he seems to stick with it. How likely was he to bus his team mates 2 days in a row? That with the claim makes me feel null to town vibes only going on voting record.
Death gives info on those who pushed him
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Chuggs: Late game push on Wee D1, switched to Terra. Mid day vote on Kalor then switches back to Terra, goes back to Kalor due to Sorian's push in a vote I remember disliking. Vote on Bae D3 happens after Fanto's claim so no brownie points there. Immediate vote on malus before subbing.
Turmoil7: After subbing in joke votes blarg, follows by pushing for an info lunch on Zipped then goes for a weird thing about finding a second place in feps. D5 pushes to turbo Blarg, after blarg dies has very weak votes on Malus and TP.
Both have sketchy voting records them and Stan being the only alive people I don't townread on the Terra train D1 (Chuggs was the first vote so less likely an attempt to create a rival train, at time of voting Sneeks had 3 votes). 4th vote on kalor and made it within 1 vote of Baes train, changes to Terra as kalor loses steam and Terra gains it bringing it 2 votes higher than bae. Upon switching back to Kalor with the overdramatic 'fuck it' post the votes were Terra 7 and Bae 6 so the vote brought Terra to tie with Bae. Was it too risky to have a scum leave a train which was currently keeping another member alive in order to start a new one with another scum member, making them both look back if they switched back to Bae to save them? When I actually look at the votes by themselves my answer is 'maybe?'. Chuggs votes after that aren't interesting and Turmoil doesn't seem that involved in the game (I think a SK turmoil acted similar?)
Death gives info on feps and malus?
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Stu: Voted Nin for fluffy posts, called out by Sorian for being a 'shit vote' (so happy I don't have to put up with stuff like that now that he's dead, always extremely aggrivating), subbed out fairly soon afterwards.
Loki: Ties with Sneeks with a vote on Terra (making them both at 4). Stays on him till EoD after the competing wagons (that's the actual term!) became Sneeks V TWE V Zeke. Votes Terra again D2 competing with Kalor at 4 and Bae at 4. Subs out D3 but she'd have voted Bae anyway so doesn't really matter.
Stan: Late vote on Blarg D4 tightening the race between Blarg and Zipped, stupid hijinks with Sparks D5
Stu and Blarg are pretty fine tbh, Stu is always weak D1 and I kinda like some of the posts Stan had around Blarg and Sparks. Loki is the interesting one, defends Sneeks D1 but ignores the wagon competing against scum D2 instead furthering another town wagon. Overall one of the more suspicious.
Death gives info on Nin and those who push Stan
Major problems for me when considering voting are:
A) Who supported the rival trains for Sawneeks D1
B) Who supported voting Terra or Kalor D2
C) Who was absolutely comfertable with Zipped v Blarg
Nin: On Sawneeks early, stayed on Bae during the pull towards kalor and the Sorian check. Turboed Bae D3. Late on Zipped D4, and awfully override Sparks D5.
Hasn't voted town once. Once he made a decision he seems to stick with it. How likely was he to bus his team mates 2 days in a row? That with the claim makes me feel null to town vibes only going on voting record.
Death gives info on those who pushed him
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Chuggs: Late game push on Wee D1, switched to Terra. Mid day vote on Kalor then switches back to Terra, goes back to Kalor due to Sorian's push in a vote I remember disliking. Vote on Bae D3 happens after Fanto's claim so no brownie points there. Immediate vote on malus before subbing.
Turmoil7: After subbing in joke votes blarg, follows by pushing for an info lunch on Zipped then goes for a weird thing about finding a second place in feps. D5 pushes to turbo Blarg, after blarg dies has very weak votes on Malus and TP.
Both have sketchy voting records them and Stan being the only alive people I don't townread on the Terra train D1 (Chuggs was the first vote so less likely an attempt to create a rival train, at time of voting Sneeks had 3 votes). 4th vote on kalor and made it within 1 vote of Baes train, changes to Terra as kalor loses steam and Terra gains it bringing it 2 votes higher than bae. Upon switching back to Kalor with the overdramatic 'fuck it' post the votes were Terra 7 and Bae 6 so the vote brought Terra to tie with Bae. Was it too risky to have a scum leave a train which was currently keeping another member alive in order to start a new one with another scum member, making them both look back if they switched back to Bae to save them? When I actually look at the votes by themselves my answer is 'maybe?'. Chuggs votes after that aren't interesting and Turmoil doesn't seem that involved in the game (I think a SK turmoil acted similar?)
Death gives info on feps and malus?
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Stu: Voted Nin for fluffy posts, called out by Sorian for being a 'shit vote' (so happy I don't have to put up with stuff like that now that he's dead, always extremely aggrivating), subbed out fairly soon afterwards.
Loki: Ties with Sneeks with a vote on Terra (making them both at 4). Stays on him till EoD after the competing wagons (that's the actual term!) became Sneeks V TWE V Zeke. Votes Terra again D2 competing with Kalor at 4 and Bae at 4. Subs out D3 but she'd have voted Bae anyway so doesn't really matter.
Stan: Late vote on Blarg D4 tightening the race between Blarg and Zipped, stupid hijinks with Sparks D5
Stu and Blarg are pretty fine tbh, Stu is always weak D1 and I kinda like some of the posts Stan had around Blarg and Sparks. Loki is the interesting one, defends Sneeks D1 but ignores the wagon competing against scum D2 instead furthering another town wagon. Overall one of the more suspicious.
Death gives info on Nin and those who push Stan
Switching back to mechanics before I attempt to make another big post in a google doc, we should split people between the quarters, what room Zeke is in and what room Ketkat is in. If we want to be cruel we can try and force suspicious people into the minefield (the other rooms)
If we want to be really cruel, bomber if you only need a certain number of kills to win, reveal yourself and we can pack you and a load of suspects into the dangerous room >:D