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US PoliERA 2018 |OT6| An Unmitigated Disaster

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Woody

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Apologies if it was already posted, but it looks like Sascha Baron Cohen has spent the last year trolling the GOP. This is going to be insane.


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http://www.vulture.com/2018/07/showtime-reveals-character-for-sacha-baron-cohens-new-show.html
 
Zona

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Human said:
OK-05 would certainly be a surprise. While people are pessimistic about GA-06, Cook does rate it Lean Republican, not Likely.

New York's 2nd Congressional District should be competitive, but Cook at least doesn't see Peter King being in any danger. Is Shirley not a strong candidate or is King just too strong an incumbent?
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If he was still in the old 3rd district he'd likely be done. Remember Long Island is one of the most racially segregated suburbs in the country. The 2nd covers a lot of lily white areas.
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It's too easy to troll the United States, but I'll still laugh.

Now I want a Tiger beer, though. :( I'm too lazy to go to Uwajimaya and get some.
 

RupertM

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Plinko said:
If this was 2012, I'd agree with you. That said, Trump (the man with multiple affairs, a report about a sexual assault of his wife, etc.) is president. Rubbing shoulders isn't going to be too much of an issue.

I love Biden and think he'll be a great president. I think he is one of the very few who will be able to go head to head with Trump and actually make him look bad. Would I rather have Gillibrand? Yes, easily. But I feel like she'll be easiest to attack (Hillary 2.0), Booker has a bad NJ corruption history, Harris hasn't done anything yet to prove to me she can attract votes in a national election, Bernie is just Bernie, Brown is anti-trade, etc.

Regardless of my feelings, it's going to be an interesting primary.
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I think Harris has better shot than Gilibrand. What has Gilibrand done for that matter? Kamala is famous for her interrogations. I know it seems crass but being meme-able and viral-able helps in elections as we saw in 2016.

All said, harris is one of the top 5 candidates. Most reliable candidates are Biden and Bernie. Both have big national profiles. Warren might be polarizing and the attack angle for her is already ready and used often by trump.
 
Linkura

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So I watched The Dana Carvey Show documentary and now I'm watching the actual show (all on Hulu).

They did impressions of the various 1996 Presidential candidates and Steve Carell's Pat Buchanan impression could be done today (or in 2016) for Donald Trump without changing a goddamn thing in the script. I was only 8 years old in 1996- was Buchanan really that bad?
 
Leona Lewis

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Linkura said:
So I watched The Dana Carvey Show documentary and now I'm watching the actual show (all on Hulu).

They did impressions of the various 1996 Presidential candidates and Steve Carell's Pat Buchanan impression could be done today (or in 2016) for Donald Trump without changing a goddamn thing in the script. I was only 8 years old in 1996- was Buchanan really that bad?
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Buchanan's campaign slogan was literally "America First." His rhetoric was 100% proto-MAGA/Trump.
 
Autodidact

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Madam Speaker continues to slay your faves:
Realistically, what are Democrats going to be able to do with Trump as president?
When we talk about leverage, it's not just leverage within a bill. It's leverage within the context of a legislative agenda: You want this? We want that.

A big infrastructure bill is something that we think we can achieve. Because it has so much popular appeal. And we've always done it in a bipartisan way. This partisanship on infrastructure only started when Obama was putting something forward. Of course, then they didn't want anything he did. We can't not do what we've asked the speaker to do now, to bring up a gun safety bill. Because it will save lives from day one. [A bill to protect the] Dreamers – it's not asking them to go out on a limb. Nothing that we've been asking doesn't have overwhelming public support. It's just that they don't believe in governance. They don't believe in science, facts, data, evidence, truth. They don't believe in any of that. If you don't want to govern, it's important not to know anything, so you don't have to act upon it.
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You've been weighing in on primaries in a way that's gotten some people's noses out of joint.
[Pelosi shrugs.]

The concern is that party leaders are substituting their judgment for the will of the voters. How do you respond to that?
The fact is we just want to win based on our values. We haven't, frankly, weighed in that much. The chairman made a decision to weigh in in Texas, and people got all upset because the Bernie people got upset. In the beautiful tent that is the Democratic Party, we have a lot of people, and the districts that we have to win are pretty moderate-to-conservative districts. In a primary, which is a multi-candidate field, it is likely the most liberal candidate will win – who doesn't have the faintest chance of winning the general election. Now everyone's had a chance to show their stuff. Nobody did this from day one. I'd rather take the heat from somebody saying, "Oh, they thwarted the enthusiasm," than take the heat of people saying, "Why didn't you weigh in, and now you've lost."
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Let's look ahead to the speaker contest that would follow the election. What do you make of the Tim Ryans or Seth Moultons who've called for a new generation of leadership–
Inconsequential. They don't have a following in our caucus. None.

Is it frustrated ambition on their part?
I don't know. I think there are lots of people who have worked very hard, and are more in line for what will happen one of these times. But they're not to be considered [among] who those people would be. I mean, there are people who work very hard to win the elections, who have been in legislative battles. People who paid their dues. Not to put anybody down. Anybody is consequential. But I have great support in my caucus. I'm not worried about that. And I'm certainly not worried about them.
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Amibguous Cad

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Jesus, how is such a nerd so damn cute?

Anyway, Ezra misses the race to the bottom part of this picture, and the fact that the disaggregation of news into sharable chunks on social media means that the most virally interesting stories are the ones that get shared the most. There might have been a time, when there were 3 television networks and one local newspaper, when what newsmen decided to cover made an impact. Now there's too much competition and choice in the market. There are already plenty of news outlets reporting on politics from a way that doesn't focus on the latest Trumpian outrage, from just about every conceivable viewpoint and level of sophistication. If Vox or the Brookings Institute or Cato or Jacobin or Chapo Trap House or Everyday Feminism or any of them had served a huge market niche, they would have become as indispensible to the media ecosystem as Brietbart. But they didn't.

I hate to let the news media off the hook, but the fact of the matter is the ideal news media already exists. The problem isn't that traditional gatekeepers aren't gatekeeping hard enough, but that with the plethora of viewpoints and sources available to the American people, they're choosing to listen to the circus over the substance.
 
Kaitos

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If Beto were going to win, he probably would've led a poll by now...
 
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Midnight Jon

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I like the guy who's this HYUUGE defender of LGBT people and issues is now stanning for Russia, home to LGBT pogroms.
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honestly i'm just looking at greenwald showing his ass for the millionth time like "the logical conclusion of this guy's enormous fucking grudge against the democratic party was always going to be literally turning into a tankie"
 
Kirblar

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Midnight Jon said:
honestly i'm just looking at greenwald showing his ass for the millionth time like "the logical conclusion of this guy's enormous fucking grudge against the democratic party was always going to be literally turning into a tankie"
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And proving for the billionth time that Ron Paul fans are literally just Trump fans.
 
Stinkles

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EvilChameleon said:
Thought of this last night; if the Democrats do indeed take back the house... does Nancy decide to not invite Trump to do a State Of The Union address in 2019 and 2020? Would be a great way of limiting his propaganda.
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He would just do it anyway as part of his campaign and he'd revel in the victimhood. At least if he has to be somewhere sober it has the chance to make him read a teleprompter which he and his ingrate base hate.
 
JetBlackPanda

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Can I just say how much I fucking hate that during the election it was all "the problem with this country is it's too politically correct" and now it's "you don't have to love Trump but respect the office"

I lose my mind at work everyday.
 
Aaron

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Kirblar said:
What kinda pollster is Gravis?
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Not great. Not totally junk but I wouldn't place them that much higher.

It does confirm what we've seen in several polls now, though - Sinema leads over even wannabe moderate darling McSally, and there's a strong opening in the governor's race. A bunch of prognosticators still have that rated as Likely R and I don't know why, Ducey is very unpopular.
 
Digital Dinosaur

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JetBlackPanda said:
Can I just say how much I fucking hate that during the election it was all "the problem with this country is it's too politically correct" and now it's "you don't have to love Trump but respect the office"

I lose my mind at work everyday.
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Cue shock that people whining about political correctness are mostly just mad at the prospect of popular culture no longer accepting their bullshit.
 
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