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Sande

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Oct 25, 2017
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Weps are hard to read cause they aren't like the old school weps that just do damage. That's cause Blizzard's setup of allowing weps to go face means they have a hard time balancing so they have to get creative.
Many of these cards aren't really weapons. They're just forced into that slot. Hell, some them can't even attack.

All of this feels so damn pointless with weapon removal being so insane. I think they should have introduced an "artifact" slot or something by now but I guess it's way too complicated for HS players, just like deck slots.

This druid card actually makes sense as a weapon though. And playing against it isn't as simple as drawing your Ooze or Harrison and slamming it down asap. That's really good.
 

DSP

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's not too bad really, it's comparable to acolyte of pain I guess but worse of course. Best use for it I think is jade shaman, you can evolve it too so the body being bad isn't too bad. Getting more jade in shaman is a big deal, let alone it being in form of jade claws, their best jade card.
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I'm interested to see warrior's legendary weapon since warrior can fetch it with forge of souls and you can make a very consistent deck around it, maybe it's some good combo there.
 

QFNS

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Oct 26, 2017
935
So the problem with reverse ooze here is that you want to run it in a deck with a way to get guaranteed value from it, which means lots of weapons. Which also probably means that you are going to get back a Wicked Knife, King's Defender, or Blood Razor rather than that sweet legendary weapon, Atiesh, or Arcanite Reaper. With the awful stats (seriously 3 mana for a 1/3 is godawful), it seems like it is only useful as a combo piece rather than as a core part of a weapon deck. No thanks.

The Druid weapon is interesting in the same way that Kun is. Lots of combo potential in a deck like Big Druid where you are already running Medivh & co. The 1 attack makes your hero power slightly better (and a LOT better if you have the DK out). But needing to chew through 5 charges before you can get the effect is a big drawback. I also wonder if they will be printing a way to break your own weapons in the set. Without that even playing this exactly on curve you only get a 1 mana ramp. Getting a full refresh is pretty good though so hard to say. Definitely worth a try in something like Big Druid.
 

Deleted member 4367

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You don't play reverse ooze in any deck that isn't trying to get a legendary weapon back.

And you still don't play it.
 
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It's a 3 mana 1/3 that in essence draws a card. It's not that bad, it's okay hand value and tutors. I don't like the name reverse ooze, for the record.

The statline is okay. We'll have to see if there is enough reason to want to bring a weapon back consistently.
 

QFNS

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Oct 26, 2017
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I mean it draws a card if you've had any weapon destroyed. So even if it's a bad weapon you get something. Wicked Knife costs 1 so even if that's all you get at least its a combo enabler or something to play after you've played the DK? Yeah this probably doesn't get played in Rogue lol.
 
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I mean it draws a card if you've had any weapon destroyed. So even if it's a bad weapon you get something. Wicked Knife costs 1 so even if that's all you get at least its a combo enabler or something to play after you've played the DK? Yeah this probably doesn't get played in Rogue lol.

So far there is not a reason to run it in rogue. This is not a card that you just run because you can get value off it obviously. You need to have a strategy in mind, like the druid weapon to enable some OTK combo.
 

Boddy

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You play it rogue to get a 1/2 weapon. Insane value!
Anyway, the card is a bit odd. It might have some use, but you certainly don't throw it into any random deck with weapons.
If you only play a few weapons,quite often it's just a 3 mana 1/3 which is obviously terrible.
 

Magnus

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Oct 25, 2017
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Are Amazon Coins a thing in Canada? What IS the cheapest way to buy packs now that the Android prices have risen?
 

Wiibomb

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Oct 25, 2017
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Are Amazon Coins a thing in Canada? What IS the cheapest way to buy packs now that the Android prices have risen?

I always buy them on amazon.com and use them there, you could potentially set up an account on amazon.com and use an android emulator to spend the coins in your account. that is if you somehow can't use the US amazon app store on you phone (I can.)
 

Wiibomb

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Oct 25, 2017
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apparently this is the new card by trump:

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Oct 27, 2017
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Zola seems really good to me. It's cheap and it's extremely flexible. I could see it going in any deck that runs a decent number of high value cards. Jade decks, Dragon Priest, any deck that runs Bonemare lol.

Rummaging Kobold is probably just okay. I can't think of any non-legendary weapon that you're desperate to run three of so I'm guessing it'll be a card reserved for decks that run the most powerful of the legendary weapons.
 
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QFNS

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Oct 26, 2017
935
Lots of value there, but not great stats means that you're running it for the value and not as a tempo play. Trying to think of what you could target on curve to make it good, and not coming up with much. I guess the dream is hitting something huge late game, but on curve you're hoping for like Arcanologist or Keleseth, I guess.

Not a great include, but has potential if the meta gets really greedy.
 

Keyser S

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Oct 26, 2017
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Some combo of Zola, Shadowcast and either Blazecaller/Bonemare seem very bad. I can't figure out the combo, but I think you can manufacture 15 damage from hand if you plan ahead with a 1/1 Showcaster, which should be easier to get now that uou can play Shadowcaster and Zola on Turn 8.
 

Mars

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Oct 25, 2017
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Sometimes Marin can be useful:

Marin > Wonderous Wand > draw both Ultimate Infestations, send two mini nukes to a Priest's face winning me a match I definitely would lost otherwise.

I'm considering going all in on K&C expansion and getting the $49.99 pre-order deal (possibly more). I've been playing a lot than usual and I feel like enjoying the initial sort of weird early meta before things settle...
 

zashga

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Oct 28, 2017
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I like Zola. 3 mana makes her a decent combo card; playable on same turn as bonemare or a bunch of other stuff. Different from (arguably better than) shadowcaster.

The legendary weapons continue to be weird. I wonder if anyone will get a powerful "normal" weapon as their legendary at this rate.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I like Zola. 3 mana makes her a decent combo card; playable on same turn as bonemare or a bunch of other stuff. Different from (arguably better than) shadowcaster.

The legendary weapons continue to be weird. I wonder if anyone will get a powerful "normal" weapon as their legendary at this rate.
Is it better than Shadowcaster? I often times close out games with 2 blazecallers on the same turn. I think it will be better in some situations though.
 

Boddy

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Looks pretty good in the right deck and meta.
It will find a deck sooner or later.
 

Wiibomb

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Oct 25, 2017
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I like Zola. 3 mana makes her a decent combo card; playable on same turn as bonemare or a bunch of other stuff. Different from (arguably better than) shadowcaster.

The legendary weapons continue to be weird. I wonder if anyone will get a powerful "normal" weapon as their legendary at this rate.

I really don't think this is better than shadowcaster, shadowcaster reduces anything to 1 mana, which is huge since you only want to hit bonemares or minions with big battlecries to make enough value to surpass the 1 mana 1/1 cost. Zola on the other hand is making the exact same minion on the hand, no discounts, and potentially you want to hit battlecry minions with this, the difference is that you still have to pay full price for the copied minion.

also I think 4mana 4/4 is better than 3 mana 2/2

this has some good uses, specially when you want to have the full body of the minion again, but shadowcaster seems a bit better, still.
 

JetBlackSVW

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Oct 27, 2017
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Hi,

after almost two weeks playing this game as Mage (made it to Rank 17 right now) I want to try a second class in Casual. I still don't have a lot of cards but maybe you have recommendations.

These are the non Mage Legendaries I have:

Paladin
Sunkeeper Tarim

Rogue
Edwin VanCleef

Shaman
Al'Alkir the Windlord

Neutral
Baron Geddon
Marin the Fox
The Lich King
Alextrasza
C'Thun

I do have common cards like Bonemare, Scalebane and 1 Fire Fly already.
 

Wiibomb

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hi,

after almost two weeks playing this game as Mage (made it to Rank 17 right now) I want to try a second class in Casual. I still don't have a lot of cards but maybe you have recommendations.

These are the non Mage Legendaries I have:

Paladin
Sunkeeper Tarim

Rogue
Edwin VanCleef

Shaman
Al'Alkir the Windlord

Neutral
Baron Geddon
Marin the Fox
The Lich King
Alextrasza
C'Thun

I do have common cards like Bonemare, Scalebane and 1 Fire Fly already.

do you have preparations for rogue? and gadgetzan auctioneers?
 

Wiibomb

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Oct 25, 2017
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Unfortunately not:(

BTW, is there a way to show my collection online? Would be easier I guess.

use hearhpwn.com download the innkeeper app they have available and that synchronizes your collection with the site, that way you can share us what you have, right now I don't have enough data on what cards you have, but my bet would be on hunter since it's new player friendly
 

Karsticles

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Oct 25, 2017
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Some combo of Zola, Shadowcast and either Blazecaller/Bonemare seem very bad. I can't figure out the combo, but I think you can manufacture 15 damage from hand if you plan ahead with a 1/1 Showcaster, which should be easier to get now that uou can play Shadowcaster and Zola on Turn 8.
The combo isn't with Bonemare, it's with Blazecaller. ;-)


Hi,

after almost two weeks playing this game as Mage (made it to Rank 17 right now) I want to try a second class in Casual. I still don't have a lot of cards but maybe you have recommendations.

These are the non Mage Legendaries I have:

Paladin
Sunkeeper Tarim

Rogue
Edwin VanCleef

Shaman
Al'Alkir the Windlord

Neutral
Baron Geddon
Marin the Fox
The Lich King
Alextrasza
C'Thun

I do have common cards like Bonemare, Scalebane and 1 Fire Fly already.
Why Casual?

There are a lot of decks with no legendaries that do just fine. Someone his #1 legend in Wild with a basic Face Hunter deck last month.
 

zoukka

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Oct 28, 2017
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Twig seems weak. Sure it's a blowout with Medivh, but is that good enough to run a 5-mana card that's dead wehenever you don't draw medivh?
 

JetBlackSVW

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Oct 27, 2017
133
use hearhpwn.com download the innkeeper app they have available and that synchronizes your collection with the site, that way you can share us what you have, right now I don't have enough data on what cards you have, but my bet would be on hunter since it's new player friendly

Thanks, here is my collection link: http://www.hearthpwn.com/members/JetBlackSVW/collection

The combo isn't with Bonemare, it's with Blazecaller. ;-)
Why Casual?

There are a lot of decks with no legendaries that do just fine. Someone his #1 legend in Wild with a basic Face Hunter deck last month.

I already play in rank with my Mage deck, but I want to try a different class and I thought as that deck will be weaker as my Mage deck I will play it first in casual. Or is there no reason to do it?
 

Magnus

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Oct 25, 2017
8,405
I always buy them on amazon.com and use them there, you could potentially set up an account on amazon.com and use an android emulator to spend the coins in your account. that is if you somehow can't use the US amazon app store on you phone (I can.)

How much do you really save for going through all the trouble? Also, any concerns with using an emulator to access your Hearthstone game? I'd be mortified to get banned and lose access to a collection I've poured some cash into.

And when you say you use them there (as in, on amazon.com) does that mean you're linking your account to Amazon.com somehow and by adding it in there it automatically goes to your account? I guess I know nothing about Amazon coins, lol.
 
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