GPD Series |OT| A "Switch" To PC Gaming

Jodast · Dec 9, 2017

itsamiracle said:
Still more organized than my workbench. Regarding the device, it's a bit late now, but I am not a fan of the analogs' placement change.

They aren't in ideal locations, but given we're getting both much better cooling and a M2 slot from the move I'm happy to deal with it.

2+2=5 said:
Damn that's dirty lol!
Is there something new i should notice in that pic?
I definitively don't like the white xinput switch and low screen bar though.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe this is the first time we have seen the device turned on. Which also means this is the first time we have seen a functional prototype.

The white input switch is probably just prototyping but I'll agree about the screen placement. Unless they are planning to stick a camera up the top they should have evened out the top and bottom bezels. It looks like the top of the case is aluminum and they kept the ridges in the hinge. Guess they are going to use the hinge for additional heat dissipation.

jimboton · Dec 9, 2017

Well if that's a 6 inch screen judging by the unused space at either side the device is going to be quite a bit larger than the original.

Deleted member 15476 · Dec 10, 2017

I accidentally left my GPDWin uncharged for a bit too long and I was unable to boot to Windows for about 10 minutes until the battery came back to life. Those 10 minutes were noticeably longer than usual as well (*_*)

Shizuka · Dec 10, 2017

itsamiracle said:
I accidentally left my GPDWin uncharged for a bit too long and I was unable to boot to Windows for about 10 minutes until the battery came back to life. Those 10 minutes were noticeably longer than usual as well (*_*)

itsamiracle

MJPIA · Dec 10, 2017

Phawx has done a teardown comparison video between the XD & XD+.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f_Q2VY47SA

Official announcement of the Win 2 should be sometime this week.

And in other news I am apparently a official US distributor of Sunda batteries in the US and will be able to offer a consistent supply of Win batteries to people once I finish my order with them.

MJPIA · Dec 11, 2017

Why hello there:

Custódio · Dec 11, 2017

Are most games friendly about the windows' sleep mode? One of the main reasons I like traditional console handhelds is how easy it's to make it sleep and how fast it's to wake it up and continue playing without the need to save/load. I never do this with PC games so I don't know if there are problems due to some windows oddness or something. Also, will Steam time tracker ignore the time that the game was opened when the machine was in sleep mode?

Max Payne · Dec 11, 2017

I really really want this device. I believe it will be powerful enough to cover all my favorite old PC games like NFSU1+2, NFS Porsche, Max Payne 1+2, Half-Life 1+2, RtCW, not to speak of all the emu possibilities. I also hope for a decent battery life (>= Switch).
While I was sceptical about the performance of the original GPD Win, I think the second one will be a true improvement over the first one.

tsab · Dec 11, 2017

Custódio said:
Are most games friendly about the windows' sleep mode? One of the main reasons I like traditional console handhelds is how easy it's to make it sleep and how fast it's to wake it up and continue playing without the need to save/load. I never do this with PC games so I don't know if there are problems due to some windows oddness or something. Also, will Steam time tracker ignore the time that the game was opened when the machine was in sleep mode?

I don't usually do it since my laptop is always powered on (work asset) and plugged on a wall socket but I haven't stumble on any issue so far. I pause the game before sleep mode though, because I have lost some worka and game progress in the past (windows98 sleep mode was wonky).
I have the latest W10 Business Edition if it makes a difference

Jodast · Dec 11, 2017

So thanks to vcoleiro1 in the GPD discord a huge dump of Win 2 info has been released.

Some of the things confirmed:

Dual Rumble
2x 4900mAh batteries with improved placement (9800mAh total)
Indiegogo campaign starts in early January
Power Delivery 2.0
SoC running at 15W
Fan runs from 2000 - 10000 RPM and pushes out air 8 times faster than the GPD Win 1's fan
uSD card speeds are 2x faster
DDR3 @1866Mhz
128GB M.2 SSD - runs at Sata3 speeds, no EMMC storage.
6" 720p screen - covered with Gorilla glass 4

Whole bunch of comparison slides too, but this is the one most people will be interested in:

Atolm · Dec 11, 2017

Interesting, indeed...let's see the price for backers.

LuigiV · Dec 11, 2017

Jodast said:
So thanks to vcoleiro1 in the GPD discord a huge dump of Win 2 info has been released.

Some of the things confirmed:

Dual Rumble

2x 4900mAh batteries with improved placement (9800mAh total)

Indiegogo campaign starts in early January

Power Delivery 2.0

SoC running at 15W

Fan runs from 2000 - 10000 RPM and pushes out air 8 times faster than the GPD Win 1's fan

uSD card speeds are 2x faster

DDR3 @1866Mhz

128GB M.2 SSD - runs at Sata3 speeds, no EMMC storage.

6" 720p screen - covered with Gorilla glass 4

Whole bunch of comparison slides too, but this is the one most people will be interested in:

This sounds like it's going to be very expensive. Though I am quite impressed they managed to cram in a full 15W CPU and such a large battery in such a small enclosure.

Max Payne · Dec 11, 2017

Jodast said:
So thanks to vcoleiro1 in the GPD discord a huge dump of Win 2 info has been released.

Some of the things confirmed:

Dual Rumble

2x 4900mAh batteries with improved placement (9800mAh total)

Indiegogo campaign starts in early January

Power Delivery 2.0

SoC running at 15W

Fan runs from 2000 - 10000 RPM and pushes out air 8 times faster than the GPD Win 1's fan

uSD card speeds are 2x faster

DDR3 @1866Mhz

128GB M.2 SSD - runs at Sata3 speeds, no EMMC storage.

6" 720p screen - covered with Gorilla glass 4

Whole bunch of comparison slides too, but this is the one most people will be interested in:

9800 mAh sounds quite good. It looks like the framerates almost doubled compared to the Win. The dream of a portable GTA V with stable 30 fps locked may become true at some point. How many hours do you think the battery could hold up with that setup?

Mivey · Dec 11, 2017

"Game Frame numbers"? Engrish, much? They should get a native speaker as a PR person.

But the hardware seems super exciting. It don't see myself backing it, but I will purchase it once it makes its way into regular (digital) store fronts.

Tregard · Dec 11, 2017

LuigiV said:
This sounds like it's going to be very expensive. Though I am quite impressed they managed to cram in a full 15W CPU and such a large battery in such a small enclosure.

Yeah this sounds incredible but almost unatainable to someone who was unwilling to fork out for a PS4 Pro

deftones r cool · Dec 11, 2017

Jodast said:

*spits out coffee*

Wait, this thing plays Overwatch & GTA V?!

BernardoOne · Dec 11, 2017

that's a ridiculous amount of battery holy shit

Bunkles · Dec 11, 2017

If those benchmarks hold and the system is fairly stable I'm in day one. My lord...

Redneckerz · Dec 11, 2017

Jodast said:
So thanks to vcoleiro1 in the GPD discord a huge dump of Win 2 info has been released.

Some of the things confirmed:

Dual Rumble

2x 4900mAh batteries with improved placement (9800mAh total)

Indiegogo campaign starts in early January

Power Delivery 2.0

SoC running at 15W

Fan runs from 2000 - 10000 RPM and pushes out air 8 times faster than the GPD Win 1's fan

uSD card speeds are 2x faster

DDR3 @1866Mhz

128GB M.2 SSD - runs at Sata3 speeds, no EMMC storage.

6" 720p screen - covered with Gorilla glass 4

Whole bunch of comparison slides too, but this is the one most people will be interested in:

Numerous things seem ''off'' to me:

The Core M3 7Y30 is a 4.5 watt chip, using 7 watts under full load. How on earth did this change to a ''15 watt'' one? Unless you are counting everything outside the SoC aswell..
My guess is that this user looked at this bit: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-m3-7Y30-Notebook-Processor.178426.0.html, specifically this:
[*]Thanks to its high Turbo clock, the 7Y30 can sometimes keep up with the 15 Watt models for short peak load and single-thread scenarios, but the clocks will drop significantly under sustained workloads.
[*]

Click to expand...

Click to shrink...
And extrapolated that to the 7Y30 being a 15 watt CPU - Which it isnt.
''USD Card?'' I reckon its USB.
2x 4900mAh batteries sounds good on paper, but also adds another variable in terms of stability. If one of them dies, then what? And couldnt a 10.000 mAh battery be installed? After all, The Outikel K10000 phablet has one, and its SoC should be of similar wattages as the Core M3 7Y30.
Fans from 2000-10.000 RPM. Isnt that going to be exceptionally noisy?

I can find the rest of the specs plausible, but these stick out, especially since the initial specs were a lot more realistic in nature.

This also looks strange. Over 80 FPS in Overwatch? At which resolution and with which settings?
By comparison, A Core i5-7Y54, but with the same HD Graphics 615 scores 28.2 fps on 720p on low settings: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-615.174029.0.html

Same goes for GTA V. At what is this run? I wont deny that the HD Graphics 615 is a significant step up from the HD 405, but these metrics lack a lot of detail, and especially in the case of Overwatch and GTA V are just suspicious. I need more details.

LuigiV said:
This sounds like it's going to be very expensive. Though I am quite impressed they managed to cram in a full 15W CPU and such a large battery in such a small enclosure.

You shouldn't be impressed because the facts on the CPU of what we know dont stack up against this new information. Dual batteries to me only means more risk of failure of one of them, so why not take a single large one?

Tesdant said:
*spits out coffee*

Wait, this thing plays Overwatch & GTA V?!

To be fair, GPD Win 1 did do Overwatch aswell and could hit 30 fps. https://www.reddit.com/r/gpdwin/comments/6t9xr8/if_you_guys_wanted_to_play_overwatch_on_the/
The ''sweet'' spot for PS360 titles to run at similar performance as PS360 is actually qHD, so 960x544.

Jimrpg · Dec 11, 2017

Could I get an invite to the GPD discord?

Jodast said:
So thanks to vcoleiro1 in the GPD discord a huge dump of Win 2 info has been released.

Some of the things confirmed:

Dual Rumble

2x 4900mAh batteries with improved placement (9800mAh total)

Indiegogo campaign starts in early January

Power Delivery 2.0

SoC running at 15W

Fan runs from 2000 - 10000 RPM and pushes out air 8 times faster than the GPD Win 1's fan

uSD card speeds are 2x faster

DDR3 @1866Mhz

128GB M.2 SSD - runs at Sata3 speeds, no EMMC storage.

6" 720p screen - covered with Gorilla glass 4

Whole bunch of comparison slides too, but this is the one most people will be interested in:

I'm guessing this is probably at low settings?

Mivey said:
"Game Frame numbers"? Engrish, much? They should get a native speaker as a PR person.

But the hardware seems super exciting. It don't see myself backing it, but I will purchase it once it makes its way into regular (digital) store fronts.

Yeah can we not criticize their english please? Many people in China and other Asian countries don't put a lot of stock in grammar and spelling.

DigitalOp · Dec 11, 2017

N00MKRAD said:
Kinda wrong, actually.

The CPU is around 160% faster and the GPU around 100% faster at the same power consumption.

At 7W TDP-up, it's around 200%/120% faster.

Thats a pretty excellent spec boost

Tregard · Dec 11, 2017

Out of interest, does the GPD Win run Witcher 3?

Jimrpg · Dec 11, 2017

Redneckerz said:
Numerous things seem ''off'' to me:

The Core M3 7Y30 is a 4.5 watt chip, using 7 watts under full load. How on earth did this change to a ''15 watt'' one? Unless you are counting everything outside the SoC aswell..

My guess is that this user looked at this bit: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-m3-7Y30-Notebook-Processor.178426.0.html, specifically this:

And extrapolated that to the 7Y30 being a 15 watt CPU - Which it isnt.

''USD Card?'' I reckon its USB.

2x 4900mAh batteries sounds good on paper, but also adds another variable in terms of stability. If one of them dies, then what? And couldnt a 10.000 mAh battery be installed? After all, The Outikel K10000 phablet has one, and its SoC should be of similar wattages as the Core M3 7Y30.

Fans from 2000-10.000 RPM. Isnt that going to be exceptionally noisy?

I can find the rest of the specs plausible, but these stick out, especially since the initial specs were a lot more realistic in nature.

This also looks strange. Over 80 FPS in Overwatch? At which resolution and with which settings?
By comparison, A Core i5-7Y54, but with the same HD Graphics 615 scores 28.2 fps on 720p on low settings: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-615.174029.0.html

Same goes for GTA V. At what is this run? I wont deny that the HD Graphics 615 is a significant step up from the HD 405, but these metrics lack a lot of detail, and especially in the case of Overwatch and GTA V are just suspicious. I need more details.

You shouldn't be impressed because the facts on the CPU of what we know dont stack up against this new information. Dual batteries to me only means more risk of failure of one of them, so why not take a single large one?

To be fair, GPD Win 1 did do Overwatch aswell and could hit 30 fps. https://www.reddit.com/r/gpdwin/comments/6t9xr8/if_you_guys_wanted_to_play_overwatch_on_the/
The ''sweet'' spot for PS360 titles to run at similar performance as PS360 is actually qHD, so 960x544.

The Phawx did a video where he overclocked the m3, I think it did do 15W though the battery would obviously die a lot faster. I hope there's a way to set it at 4W/7W/15W easily.

The Overwatch and GTA V scores look high but Overwatch should be fairly scalable given its Blizzard and GTA V is ultimately a PS3 game. But it's most likely at low settings. Still being able to play open world games on a portable could be next gen portable defining.

Redneckerz · Dec 11, 2017

Tregard said:
Out of interest, does the GPD Win run Witcher 3?

It does, at unplayable framerates and resolution (400x300).

arbok26 said:
The Phawx did a video where he overclocked the m3, I think it did do 15W though the battery would obviously die a lot faster. I hope there's a way to set it at 4W/7W/15W easily.

15 watts would be over twice as much more wattage against the chip at full load (7 watt). At that point, one could just stick a an AMD APU in it.

15 watts for a 3DS XL formfactor makes zero sense since you will never be able to maintain that kind of performance for long. 7-8 watts is already pushing it.

And if they want to cool that kind of a heat, i read a 2.000-10.000 rpm fan is used.. can you imagine the noise coming from that thing.

arbok26 said:
The Overwatch and GTA V scores look high but Overwatch should be fairly scalable given its Blizzard and GTA V is ultimately a PS3 game. But it's most likely at low settings. Still being able to play open world games on a portable could be next gen portable defining.

FWIW those 30 fps is already with heavily edited settings. No doubt the Win 2 will run it faster and a lot likely at 720p, but 80 fps suggests far lower res than 720p and edited settings.

StormEagle · Dec 11, 2017

Redneckerz said:
''USD Card?'' I reckon its USB.

Micro SD Card: uSD = µSD. When µ for micro is unavailable u is sometimes used. I guess 'cause it's the closest looking letter on a US keyboard and not used for other prefixes.

A PC handheld sounds generally nice, but the screenshots of the Win 2 don't look very appealing. I can't imagine playing on that button and stick layout will be very comfortable. I guess it can't be helped without sacrificing the keyboard, but there has to be a better way.

Jimrpg · Dec 11, 2017

Redneckerz said:
It does, at unplayable framerates and resolution (400x300).

15 watts would be over twice as much more wattage against the chip at full load (7 watt). At that point, one could just stick a an AMD APU in it.

15 watts for a 3DS XL formfactor makes zero sense since you will never be able to maintain that kind of performance for long. 7-8 watts is already pushing it.

And if they want to cool that kind of a heat, i read a 2.000-10.000 rpm fan is used.. can you imagine the noise coming from that thing.

FWIW those 30 fps is already with heavily edited settings. No doubt the Win 2 will run it faster and a lot likely at 720p, but 80 fps suggests far lower res than 720p and edited settings.

Yep 15W seems too high for a portable. One thing I loved about Vita was it hardly ever got hot. And the GPD win already got hot at 4W so I hope the 15W TDP is just a possible overclock and not the default setting.

Also judging from the specs and what we already know so far, it seems like it's going to be more expensive than initially thought? Maybe $550-600 now? I hope not that'd be really expensive for a portable game console but I assume they know the demand for this better than us.

I'm hoping it will be $500 though the Win 1 was already $400 and that was with a far cheaper SoC.

Jimrpg · Dec 11, 2017

StormEagle said:
Micro SD Card: uSD = µSD. When µ for micro is unavailable u is sometimes used. I guess 'cause it's the closest looking letter on a US keyboard and not used for other prefixes.

A PC handheld sounds generally nice, but the screenshots of the Win 2 don't look very appealing. I can't imagine playing on that button and stick layout will be very comfortable. I guess it can't be helped without sacrificing the keyboard, but there has to be a better way.

The Win 1 sticks and button configuration seems better in my mind though I haven't used it before. I think it'd make more sense with the buttons on the outside rather than the right stick. If you play a lot of FPS I think the Win 2 layout would be fine but I tend to use the buttons more and I think the stick would get in the way.

Still I think it's a minor complaint in the scheme of things.

MJPIA · Dec 11, 2017

Here's the discord.
https://discordapp.com/invite/N4p3NHY
You'll find the most discussion there.

Here's the full stuff shared so far.

1) WIN 2 has two batteries, each 3.8v and 4900mAh , ie 9800mAh in total. Iif you consider most batteries in mobile devices are 3.7v. It would equate to a battery ~ over 10,000mAh if it were 3.7v. GPD claim over 6 hours of gaming time
2) It has dual vibration motors
3) They got a design company this time around to design it. It's the company that won the Red Dot Award (what ever that is)
4) 720p 6" screen made by Sharp - with Gorilla Glass 4, M3-7y30 and M.2 2242 slot - card swappable - all as we knew already
5) supports PD 2.0 fast charge
6) Indiegogo campaign early Jan
7) The Lid material -> "The framework of the cover is of light, strong magnesium alloy material to avoid deformation-induced screen bending. The rounded edge design shows more affinity. The black removable ABS cover can be replaced by stamping process made zinc alloy stereoscopic cover, or it can be pasted with personalized metal stickers and adhesive stickers. To perfectly create your unique ultimate dynamic 3D heavy metal styled handheld by yourself."
8) Many will like this about the battery - motherboard proximity -> "As for the design of internal structure layout, benefited from the change from the L-type motherboard into a dual motherboard superposition design, the saved room can be used to store the double battery stack, which effectively prevents the conduction of heat, generated by the battery, to the motherboard"
9) There's this bit -> ""Designed with novel PC-class cooling solution, with 15W designed power consumption and high-power turbofans with the speed dynamically ranging from 2000~10000rpm. When the temperature of the core is between 20 ℃~80 ℃, the 60-speed dynamic temperature control will start to balance the energy efficiency ratio to the best status"

10) There's a lot about the performance of the M3-7y30 and speed of the M.2 Card. Lots of benchmarks and graphs and claims etc. 2 times the performance , something like that 11) There's this about the M.2 Card slot -> "In order to facilitate players to replace the SSD, the D surface of the WIN 2 is designed with a slot, enabling the SSD be inserted obliquely, with a plug-in cover on the top. The copper nuts are embedded in the sealing, and it is fixed using copper screws
12) uSD card is twice as quick for read and write compared to the current WINs uSD card slot
13) DDR3 RAM at 1866MHz
14) Comes with 128GB M.2 SSD card installed
15) WIN 2 fan can pump out air at 8 times the rate as that of the WIN 1's fan

A couple of the other slides.

Honestly to me this is the most important one.
Wade has confirmed the battery issues are caused by system heat as a result of the battery being pressed up against one side of the motherboard.
Now they have isolated the heatsink and battery so this should be a tremendous improvement for battery life.

Even if the chart numbers are fudged to make them look good it is safe to say the Win2 will crush the Win in performance.

Yamajian · Dec 11, 2017

Why doesn't this thing use an on screen keyboard instead so the controller layout could be much more ergonomic? Is it a high demand thing, or is it because since it's a PC they want keyboard hardware so it can support older OS's etc?

Mhj · Dec 11, 2017

Has anyone used ScummVM on GPD Win? I have been holding out knowing that its successor was incoming, but that's what I'm mainly looking forward to using it for.

Redneckerz · Dec 11, 2017

StormEagle said:
Micro SD Card: uSD = µSD. When µ for micro is unavailable u is sometimes used. I guess 'cause it's the closest looking letter on a US keyboard and not used for other prefixes.

A PC handheld sounds generally nice, but the screenshots of the Win 2 don't look very appealing. I can't imagine playing on that button and stick layout will be very comfortable. I guess it can't be helped without sacrificing the keyboard, but there has to be a better way.

And Micro-SD was too long or something? XD haha. My bad.

arbok26 said:
Yep 15W seems too high for a portable. One thing I loved about Vita was it hardly ever got hot. And the GPD win already got hot at 4W so I hope the 15W TDP is just a possible overclock and not the default setting.

Its just a unrealistic measurement. By comparison, the Smach Z team wanted to use an APU that drew 15 watts from the get-go and they were rightly critcized on it for going with a SoC that is way too demanding for that enclosure. Switch portable does 17 watts max when discharged which is with everything else taken into account. How much will a Win 2 draw when being 100% limited?

Mivey · Dec 11, 2017

arbok26 said:
Yeah can we not criticize their english please? Many people in China and other Asian countries don't put a lot of stock in grammar and spelling.

Well, I don't expect them to improve their language skills, on a short term basis anyway. However, as a business, they are targeting a Western audience (if not exclusively, at least in large parts) that is speaking English, as a first or second language. So they should consider hiring English speaking people to organize the Crowdfunding campaign, and who look over all materials and images.

TripaSeca · Dec 11, 2017

GPD are sure hard at work on this but every time I look at one I can't help but wonder what a marvel the Switch is and what am amazing feat Nintendo has accomplished.

On a side note, why do they insist in putting windows in there? Isn't it too much overhead for such a constrained system?

Why not go with SteamOS? Compatibility?

Vagabond · Dec 11, 2017

TripaSeca said:
On a side note, why do they insist in putting windows in there? Isn't it too much overhead for such a constrained system?

Why not go with SteamOS? Compatibility?

As has been said time and time again, there's no decent alternative. You'd be dealing with your own driver support+hardly having any platform support with SteamOS

Jimrpg · Dec 11, 2017

Mivey said:
Well, I don't expect them to improve their language skills, on a short term basis anyway. However, as a business, they are targeting a Western audience (if not exclusively, at least in large parts) that is speaking English, as a first or second language. So they should consider hiring English speaking people to organize the Crowdfunding campaign, and who look over all materials and images.

A lot of bigger Chinese companies english have got a lot better over the years. You can see it when you visit their websites like Xiaomi and Huawei. Obviously they've hired native english speakers to do translating work. But for whatever reason smaller companies just don't. I could be wrong on this, but they probably don't see how bad it is, and think its probably 80-90% of the correct grammar, when in fact its more like 50%.

Chinese companies also already have a HUGE market of 1 billion people so that's probably priority number 1, plus I also assume that English is just one of the many languages and markets to deal with. The Russian market is also huge for them as is many of the european markets.

2+2=5 · Dec 11, 2017

Finally some more news!
I'm a little skeptical about some bits but i can't wait to see the full reveal, the various video of comparisons, performance etc :D

Max Payne said:
I really really want this device. I believe it will be powerful enough to cover all my favorite old PC games like NFSU1+2, NFS Porsche, Max Payne 1+2, Half-Life 1+2, RtCW, not to speak of all the emu possibilities. I also hope for a decent battery life (>= Switch).
While I was sceptical about the performance of the original GPD Win, I think the second one will be a true improvement over the first one.

Mhj said:
Has anyone used ScummVM on GPD Win? I have been holding out knowing that its successor was incoming, but that's what I'm mainly looking forward to using it for.

The GPD Win 1 is already way more than enough for all those games, what do you think the GPD Win 1 is? A Gameboy? XD
The GPD Win 1 is able to play some PS360 games at 720p at low settings, and even some newer games, i have played/finished on it Batman Arkham Origins, Binary Domain, Condemned Criminal Origins and others, on youtube there are lots of videos of people playing skyrim, fallout 3/nv, diablo 3, burnout paradise etc.

Oynox · Dec 11, 2017

I'm really curious about the backer price now. I think this would be a cool device to own but I am not sure if I would be willing to dump 400 bucks onto it, honestly. I am not convinced that I actually use this that much. I would love to try it though

N00MKRAD · Dec 11, 2017

N00MKRAD · Dec 11, 2017

Some info on Win 2 we recently got from the GPD Co-owner Wade:

1) WIN 2 has two batteries, each 3.8v and 4900mAh , ie 9800mAh in total. Iif you consider most batteries in mobile devices are 3.7v. It would equate to a battery ~ over 10,000mAh if it were 3.7v. GPD claim over 6 hours of gaming time

2) It has dual vibration motors - new feature for the WIN2

3) They got a design company this time around to design it. It's the company that won the Red Dot Award (what ever that is)

4) 720p 6" screen made by Sharp - with Gorilla Glass 4, M3-7y30 and M.2 2242 slot - card swappable - all as we knew already

5) supports PD 2.0 fast charge

6) Indiegogo campaign currently planned for early Jan

7) The Lid material -> "The framework of the cover is of light, strong magnesium alloy material to avoid deformation-induced screen bending. The rounded edge design shows more affinity. The black removable ABS cover can be replaced by stamping process made zinc alloy stereoscopic cover, or it can be pasted with personalized metal stickers and adhesive stickers. To perfectly create your unique ultimate dynamic 3D heavy metal styled handheld by yourself."

8.) Many will like this about the battery - motherboard proximity -> "As for the design of internal structure layout, benefited from the change from the L-type motherboard into a dual motherboard superposition design, the saved room can be used to store the double battery stack, which effectively prevents the conduction of heat, generated by the battery, to the motherboard"

9) up to 15W TDP

10) The performance of the M3-7y30 shows about 2 times the performance of the Z8750, games tested show around twice the frame rates

11) The M.2 Card can be easily swapped

12) uSD card slot is more than twice as quick for read and write compared to the current WINs uSD card slot

13) DDR3 RAM at 1866MHz

14) Comes with 128GB M.2 SSD card installed

15) WIN 2 fan can pump out air at 8 times the rate as that of the WIN 1's fan

N00MKRAD · Dec 11, 2017

Shizuka · Dec 11, 2017

Run Devil Run generation is the best.

Alexandros · Dec 11, 2017

The performance jump is impressive, hopefully the price will be reasonable.

Jangowuzhere · Dec 11, 2017

Should I buy a GPD Win 1?

I know the 2nd one is coming out, but that doesn't look to be til sometime late next year. It's also likely to be quite a bit more expensive going by these rumored specs.

I mainly want something like this to play JRPGs and visual novels on. Should the hardware be pretty decent enough for that right? I'm not really interested in playing AAA games on it (although DMC4 on the go does sound pretty cool.)

nampad · Dec 11, 2017

HYPE HYPE HYPE!!!

koutoru · Dec 11, 2017

Jangowuzhere said:
Should I buy a GPD Win 1?

I know the 2nd one is coming out, but that doesn't look to be til sometime late next year. It's also likely to be quite a bit more expensive going by these rumored specs.

I mainly want something like this to play JRPGs and visual novels on. Should the hardware be pretty decent enough for that right? I'm not really interested in playing AAA games on it (although DMC4 on the go does sound pretty cool.)

GPD Win 1 should be fine for most VN's. I'm playing Danganronpa V3 on it right now and getting pretty much 55 - 60 fps experience on it. Tokyo Xanadu ex+ is giving me a 45 - 50 fps experience.

The one thing I would say to watch out for is read speeds. Store your game on the devices hard drive or a high read/write speed usb. Most SD cards won't cut it.

koutoru · Dec 11, 2017

duplicate post.

Mhj · Dec 11, 2017

2+2=5 said:
Finally some more news!
I'm a little skeptical about some bits but i can't wait to see the full reveal, the various video of comparisons, performance etc :D

The GPD Win 1 is already way more than enough for all those games, what do you think the GPD Win 1 is? A Gameboy? XD
The GPD Win 1 is able to play some PS360 games at 720p at low settings, and even some newer games, i have played/finished on it Batman Arkham Origins, Binary Domain, Condemned Criminal Origins and others, on youtube there are lots of videos of people playing skyrim, fallout 3/nv, diablo 3, burnout paradise etc.

Thanks, but I was also hoping for actual usability experience. Good to hear though that the specs are already fine with the current model.

Deleted member 134 · Dec 11, 2017

Anyone interested in buying my GPD Win 1? It's in perfect shape, except one minor issue, and I have the original box. The screen seems to unadhere a bit on the bottom. Very minimal. It's a build quality issue and not abuse. It causes no effect on the gaming or anything. I am confident it's an easy repair. I just never use mine anymore so I'd rather leave it for someone else to address or leave as is. $250 shipped. PM me.

GPD Win 2 looks legit but seems like it could be expensive and it'll be awhile before release. I'd be interested if I traveled as much as I used to.

Jodast · Dec 11, 2017

Mivey said:
Well, I don't expect them to improve their language skills, on a short term basis anyway. However, as a business, they are targeting a Western audience (if not exclusively, at least in large parts) that is speaking English, as a first or second language. So they should consider hiring English speaking people to organize the Crowdfunding campaign, and who look over all materials and images.

They have hired someone to help for the campaign. How do you think we got all these details? ;-)

Redneckerz · Dec 11, 2017

N00MKRAD said:
Some info on Win 2 we recently got from the GPD Co-owner Wade:

Already posted: https://www.resetera.com/threads/gpd-series-ot-a-switch-to-pc-gaming.1679/page-2#post-1990186

Jodast said:
They have hired someone to help for the campaign. How do you think we got all these details? ;-)

If anything these details just make things more confusing. The preliminary specs were a perfect fit, now suddenly the device hosts a 15 watt CPU and dual batteries. What?

GPD Series |OT| A "Switch" To PC Gaming

What Price would you grab the Win 2?

400$

500$

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