Alright, so who's ready for the influx of "HOLY SMOKES DARK SOULS CHARACTER CONFIRMED FOR SMASH"?
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Super Smash Bros. Community Thread |OT| Waiting for Next Super Smash Bros. Discussion
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I swear, every time I put the idea of a Smash 4 Switch port to rest, something else comes along to pick it back up. That something today is the Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition; if that can get a Switch port, so can Smash!
Anyway, I think this would a good direction to go in.
Anyway, I think this would a good direction to go in.
It doesn't, but us Smash fans are always desperate to keep the dream alive.
I swear, every time I put the idea of a Smash 4 Switch port to rest, something else comes along to pick it back up. That something today is the Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition; if that can get a Switch port, so can Smash!
Anyway, I think this would a good direction to go in.
"&Knuckles" is the best part haha
I wonder what people will call a "port." I think the only way I would give it that definition is if:
A) it's literally 100% the same game with the DLC characters included.
B) it's the scenario in A but with only like a couple characters/stages added.
The A scenario is very clearly a port. B is basically the same scenario as MK8DX, and that's certainly pretty port-y.
That said, I don't know what my threshold for additional content would be to stop calling it a port if it's just straight-up building off of the previous games (engine and all). But if it's clear that it's a substantial amount of new content over Wii U/3DS, then I wouldn't necessarily feel like it was a port. New modes would certainly go a long way in this sense, though MK8DX got one of those as well I guess.
A) it's literally 100% the same game with the DLC characters included.
B) it's the scenario in A but with only like a couple characters/stages added.
The A scenario is very clearly a port. B is basically the same scenario as MK8DX, and that's certainly pretty port-y.
That said, I don't know what my threshold for additional content would be to stop calling it a port if it's just straight-up building off of the previous games (engine and all). But if it's clear that it's a substantial amount of new content over Wii U/3DS, then I wouldn't necessarily feel like it was a port. New modes would certainly go a long way in this sense, though MK8DX got one of those as well I guess.
Disagree. Could be built off the previous game's code entirely with a substantial addition of content, and I would not call that a port. Doesn't matter that it has the same gamefeel as the previous games.
Well, that's the beautiful thing about non-arbitrary terms. It doesn't matter if you agree with it or not, it doesn't matter what you think; the term "port" has a very clear definition. You're just creating a sorites paradox where none exist.
I wasn't really trying to argue I was just posing a lil question but I guess I was out here making paradoxes by accident
Oki well keep hyper-aggressively putting your foot down on the semantics of video game development and I'll keep thinking that games built off of other game's code aren't always necessarily """""ports""""" under certain sets of circumstances.
I don't know how much stock people put in that old Bamco job listing, but it sounds to me like they're gearing up to call whatever this is "Smash 6," which I do not think they would do if it weren't a sequel but hey I dunno
Oki well keep hyper-aggressively putting your foot down on the semantics of video game development and I'll keep thinking that games built off of other game's code aren't always necessarily """""ports""""" under certain sets of circumstances.
I don't know how much stock people put in that old Bamco job listing, but it sounds to me like they're gearing up to call whatever this is "Smash 6," which I do not think they would do if it weren't a sequel but hey I dunno
I must be one of those people who are just kinda oblivious to Banjo. Never played the games and don't have a fondness for the character. But I think it'd make for an interesting moveset and character.
Holy shit this post, lol. You need to chill out, dude.
I don't get it. Your original post was about semantics and when I gave an honest answer about semantics you just got mad. I don't know what to say, man.
they just need to add the 3DS Classic Mode and Smash Run to the switch version, that's all I need
oh, and customs for the DLC characters, because why not
oh, and customs for the DLC characters, because why not
Yooooo!!!!
Obviously it doesn't mean Banjo for Smash, but it's a start!
Sakurai's gotta top Snake and Cloud somehow.
For what it's worth, Phil Spencer also wants to see him in, although I know that doesn't ultimately mean an OK.
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On the MK comparison: I have to say I was just a touch disappointed in MK8DX as a port, honestly. Not hugely disappointed because we got real battle mode back as well as some cool new characters (and the Clown Car fuck yeah), but the lack of new racing courses really did stand out. I understand why they didn't add any, as this was intended to be a relatively low-effort port, and making the new tracks requires a lot of work with design, graphics, balance, music, etc. But I do hope that Smash winds up rising above that level a bit. And I'm pretty confident it will. That's how the phrase "Ultimate Version of Smash Bros." sounds to me.
Anyway, I'm really intrigued by the idea of this game having a lot of new content to market with only 6 or fewer months between announcement and launch (if it is announced at E3 and releases this year). I'm gonna really miss Pic of the Day. Hopefully there's some fun pre-launch info cycle, because honestly that's a lot of the fun for me :<
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Just to add more fuel to the fire...
So I've gone back and forth on this, but with Emily and Ehoavash's comments and the above, I'm convinced we'll be seeing Smash Switch come out later this year.
It'll be the big reveal at E3, and it will launch alongside the online service in September. Book it.
So I've gone back and forth on this, but with Emily and Ehoavash's comments and the above, I'm convinced we'll be seeing Smash Switch come out later this year.
It'll be the big reveal at E3, and it will launch alongside the online service in September. Book it.
So Smash 4 was based on Brawl's engine, who's to say Smash 5 isn't based on the same one? Tweak the artstyle, add a few characters, new stages, BAM!, cash money.
Or at least that's how I'd do it.
Or at least that's how I'd do it.
Sakurai's probably still busy with his new project, and given how hands-on he likes to be, I doubt this'll be a full-on sequel; just an upgraded port he can sign off on.
I know some will think this is crazy talk, but it's actually why I'm wondering if we won't receive any new characters at all. Kinda like MK8 Deluxe if you think about it (new everything except for tracks).
I know some will think this is crazy talk, but it's actually why I'm wondering if we won't receive any new characters at all. Kinda like MK8 Deluxe if you think about it (new everything except for tracks).
The port might even have fewer characters, depending on what their license deal for the third party characters looked like.
That's certainly a dreary thought, although I think they'll be okay; that'd be an obvious incentive for fans of certain characters not to buy the new version and stick with the old ones.
I'm pretty sure the only thing getting cut would be the Miiverse stage like Source Gaming heard once. If the 3DS stages are being included, the songs could just be divided up among Find Mii, Tomodachi Life and Pictochat 2.
I'm pretty sure the only thing getting cut would be the Miiverse stage like Source Gaming heard once. If the 3DS stages are being included, the songs could just be divided up among Find Mii, Tomodachi Life and Pictochat 2.
No need to even change the artstyle at all, Smash already looks great in HD on Wii U. No sense in redoing all the graphics when there would be minimal improvements in that area going from Wii U to Switch anyway.
Why do you think Sakurai's new project isn't Smash Bros.? If that's what he's been working on all along, there would have been plenty of time to add new content. I think that's likely the case, with work on this Switch version of Smash having taken place at a leisurely pace since the DLC for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U wrapped up or even earlier.
If Sakurai is working on this, that would mean he's been working on this one game since fucking 2012 lol. That's like, over half a decade of Smash.
Considering he left HAL to get away from Kirby and his stance on sequels and originality in general, I was thinking Sakurai would eventually want to take a big break from Smash to work on something else, like how he did with Kid Icarus.
Considering he left HAL to get away from Kirby and his stance on sequels and originality in general, I was thinking Sakurai would eventually want to take a big break from Smash to work on something else, like how he did with Kid Icarus.
I doubt they'd release an enhanced port with missing characters.
Yeah, at most I'd imagine Sakurai providing feedback and direction alongside working with his other project. He was very outspoken about how he didn't want to work with another Smash.
I think Sakurai can be working on a small project of his own while also still overseeing a small-ish team at Bamco that's working on Smash. It seemed from his comments toward the end of the development of the last games that he developed a good working relationship with that team and expressed being much more comfortable working on Smash in small batches with a tighter team. I think this is exactly what's been going on since the end of DLC development. His hands-on attitude has basically been about character design and balance, the former of which is the one I think he will remain fairly involved in. The famous days of him playing against himself with two characters to balance the game are long gone for health reasons, and that aside I think he basically placed balance entirely in the hands of the other staff for DLC development. He can be around to develop character movesets and concepts while also moving between that and his own project(s).
I think that was the entire point of what they're doing now. I'm not sure how excited people think Sakurai would be to come back to the series in 3-4 years and build it from the ground up again with the roster approaching more than 60 characters, but I would guess he'd be less than thrilled at the prospect. It makes much more sense if you want to keep him involved to transition to Smash being somewhat of a service-type game as far as content goes. Sakurai and a small team can develop new content and balance the game at their own pace and there is no need for the grueling process of building it all over again from scratch.
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To be fair, you don't really need Emily or/and Eboavash's comment to know Smash is coming. Most of us were banking on Smash Bros coming out this year, along with Nintendo Online Service (or couple of months apart)
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Well, he seems liking the idea to works on third party characters and unique characters in general. He seems to appreciate Smash Bros even more during Smash 4 DLC developmen but who knows. With his quote,
If I'm thinking like Sakurai, I would grab the opportunity to port the game to Nintendo Switch and add more contents and update some stuffs. It would be a great way to not cut any characters and he wouldn't have to cut characters unless it's necessary or disagreement over license deal or whatever.
It will goes neither way. Smash 5 (which would be based on Smash 4 port and getting upgraded) or Smash 4 Deluxe (which would based on Smash 4 as well, but getting new contents.)
If it's a new project based on other IP, that also would be a great surprise tho.
Yet he seems to change his tone during Smash 4 DLC development since it wasn't stressful as base game's development was. Honestly, he said he would make the game as if it was their last game in case there wouldn't be any sequel.
We don't know for certain until they are going to announce Sakurai's project.
To be fair though I'm certain there are many talented people at Nintendo who could fill his shoes, and the team itself is still there. Sakurai or no Sakurai I'm sure they could add more characters and stages.
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I'm curious what Sakurai is going to works on next? Would it be a brand new IP or would it be a revived franchise?
What do you meant by the team? They could add more characters and stages but would it be quality like Sakurai's works? After playing so much clones and they are no where close to Smash Bros in term of animations and quality.
All we know is that his next project seems to involve shooting, considering he said he was using the rifle of this mecha figurine for reference.
kid icarus sequel plz