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Gestahl

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Is it necessary to play any of the previous Dragon Quest games before playing XI?

There are some callbacks to I and III (and some less important plot beats that call back to similar sequences in the other games) so if you have time and interest you can brush up on those two but it's all mostly THAT THING I KNOW THAT THING and not anything critical to understanding the story.
 

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Those are probably the older games. 1-3 are connected and so are 4-6.

There are some callbacks to I and III (and some less important plot beats that call back to similar sequences in the other games) so if you have time and interest you can brush up on those two but it's all mostly THAT THING I KNOW THAT THING and not anything critical to understanding the story.

Ah I see, thanks for the clarification.
 
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Said references are mostly effective from a nostalgia standpoint anyway. Those moments probably won't have much of an added impact on you if you just play those games like a few months prior as opposed to being familiar with them from years back
 

Inuhanyou

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They could've realocated resources from the other versions to get all ready at the same time.

i dont think people understand that the 3DS version an PS4 version were working in parallel with two separate teams for years before switch came out. there is no "relocate resources". They were working on two different projects and had to finish those. They probably decided they were going to do a switch version at some point during development but did not really start work on it, hence why there was such a rush to cover it up.

Blame switch for coming out at the wrong time in the generation.
 

NSESN

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Yeah, point I'm trying to make is that these companies aren't some kind of charity. People lose their wits when a game doesn't release on the system they like. I'm sure SE actually wants the game on Switch with how successful it is. 3DS just makes less sense right now.
Just because companies aren't charities it doesn't mean people should accept things like that, if they think 3DS can't be successful just release the game on the eshop, even indie companies can do that.
 

doodlebob

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Just because companies aren't charities it doesn't mean people should accept things like that, if they think 3DS can't be successful just release the game on the eshop, even indie companies can do that.
Do you realize that the 3DS version is an entirely different localization effort altogether? The game has a massive script, screen sizes are different, text sizes are different, the game is different from the PS4 / PC version.

It's not pressing a button and watching jp_to_eng.exe make shit happen. There are obviously important reasons as to why they're not doing it. If they thought they'd benefit from it, obviously they would have announced it.
 

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Just because companies aren't charities it doesn't mean people should accept things like that, if they think 3DS can't be successful just release the game on the eshop, even indie companies can do that.
Here's the thing though. Big publishers aren't content with indie sales. They want a lot of money. So even if they're making profit, if it's not a significantly large enough profit, the consider it a failure for some bizarre reason.
I totally agree with you, but you're just not going to be able to convince CEOs and shareholders. Greed is a hell of a drug.

This is of course supposing DQXI would sell that much on 3DS anyway. Switch itself has been picked up by a LOT of 3DS owners and the Switch version will likely have full voiceover like the PS4 version will have. So the 3DS version would pretty much be exclusively for the few 3DS owners who haven't made the jump yet. So it might be they legitimately think it won't make profit at all, given there IS a Switch version in the works, which is, well, Nintendo's current portable system.
 

NSESN

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Do you realize that the 3DS version is an entirely different localization effort altogether? The game has a massive script, screen sizes are different, text sizes are different, the game is different from the PS4 / PC version.

It's not pressing a button and watching jp_to_eng.exe make shit happen. There are obviously important reasons as to why they're not doing it. If they thought they'd benefit from it, obviously they would have announced it.
I realize that, I also realize that much smaller companies are able to localize games that sell much less that DQXI would.
 

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Happy to have an official release date finally. A little surprised that no 3DS version was mentioned but I have a suspicion that Nintendo will bring it over at some point anyway. I'd like to have both versions.

That being said, I've really missed playing a good old fashioned jrpg on a console and TV. I've mostly stuck to the DS and 3DS over the past few years so this is exactly what I wanted. The voice acting being added and harder difficulty are nice touches too. Aside from DQ6 and 7, I've absolutely loved every mainline DQ game that we've gotten and I have high expectations for what looks to be the swan song of the series as we may know it.

September 4th will be a glorious day, indeed.

I'm curious as to why the main character has Erdrick's Sword... I guess I'll find out this fall!
 

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Yeah, point I'm trying to make is that these companies aren't some kind of charity. People lose their wits when a game doesn't release on the system they like. I'm sure SE actually wants the game on Switch with how successful it is. 3DS just makes less sense right now.

I know, I never denied the reasons behind those choices, just expressing my disappointment about the situation.
 

Adder

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Dude that was sarcasm... unless yours is a sarcasm too?
No, it was not.
Uh, holy crap I can't believe you are that serious about this. What could have ever led you to believe the Switch version would be a simultaneous release with the PS4 version when we have not heard a whisper of it out of Japan?
So it seems you are perfectly fine having a firm treat an entire fanbase like garbage. The game was announced 3 years ago and I assumed that 3 years was more than enough.

QUOTE="qrac, post: 6134547, member: 32785"]They could've realocated resources from the other versions to get all ready at the same time.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, having a WW launch for every platform would have been the ideal scenario. September is gonna be crazy anyway due to RDR 2 so better wait until early 2019. They even do PC version and not Switch despite having 3 years. Ridiculous.
It would look pretty bad for the Switch version to cost as much as the PS4 version but look like an early PS2 game
I would not be surprised if they do that. If they are bashing Nintendo fans, might as well go all in. Besides it seems people would be onboard with this.
 

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ShinobiBk

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Yasumi

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No, it was not.

So it seems you are perfectly fine having a firm treat an entire fanbase like garbage. The game was announced 3 years ago and I assumed that 3 years was more than enough.

Yeah, having a WW launch for every platform would have been the ideal scenario. September is gonna be crazy anyway due to RDR 2 so better wait until early 2019. They even do PC version and not Switch despite having 3 years. Ridiculous.

I would not be surprised if they do that. If they are bashing Nintendo fans, might as well go all in. Besides it seems people would be onboard with this.
This is some console warrior nonsense.
 

Spedfrom

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Pre-ordering this, but the lack of an orchestrated soundtrack is pretty miffing. VIII's soundtrack was awesome and I was expecting the same for XI.
 

Aters

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I really liked how you could create your party in 9. I might be in the minority though.
lol you definitely are. Most people want characters that they can actually interact with.

This is some console warrior nonsense.
And you can tell most of these people don't give a shit about DQ.

I realize that, I also realize that much smaller companies are able to localize games that sell much less that DQXI would.
Such as? What text heavy 3DS game is slated for 2018?
 
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Aters

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What are those people? People wanting a version to be localized is "dont give a shit about DQ" now? Why everything must be about console wars?
I'll just be frank here: if Saito didn't slip his mouth and mentioned Switch in 2015, DQXI would come and go on this forum just like another niche JRPG. Now it's in the center of shitstorm that has very little to do with the game itself. If peoples show the same amount of enthusiasm to the franchise in real world as they do on forum, DQ would have been huge in the west.
 

brinstar

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I'll just be frank here: if Saito didn't slip his mouth and mentioned Switch in 2015, DQXI would come and go on this forum just like another niche JRPG. Now it's in the center of shitstorm that has very little to do with the game itself. If peoples show the same amount of enthusiasm to the franchise in real world as they do on forum, DQ would have been huge in the west.
but people are upset that the 3DS version isn't making it
 

Gartooth

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People can be understandably disappointed with no 3DS version.

The complaints I'm hearing about the Switch version in this thread is console warrior nonsense with a touch of "lazy devs" being thrown in there.

No, it was not.

So it seems you are perfectly fine having a firm treat an entire fanbase like garbage. The game was announced 3 years ago and I assumed that 3 years was more than enough.

I would not be surprised if they do that. If they are bashing Nintendo fans, might as well go all in. Besides it seems people would be onboard with this.

Oh, so the late Switch version isn't because it is taking a long time to make, but to punish Nintendo fans instead. OK, carry on with your nutty console wars conspiracies then.
 

Aters

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but people are upset that the 3DS version isn't making it
Where were these people when DQVII and VIII were localized on 3DS? Both of them are great remakes with great localization, and both sold like two dozen copies. Is it hard to understand why SE wouldn't want to localize another 70 hour DQ game on 3DS in 2018?
 

cw_sasuke

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DQ in the west is still a niche series for many - without Nintendo we wouldnt have gotten a DQ RPG in who knows how many years. It just rumbs me the wrong way when they have a version ready, were they could use most of the PS4/Steam translation but decide against it.

Kudos to them if they think DQ is too big at this point for the 3DS - but every other niche series would be happy if they could sell or drop on a system with +40/50m systems out there.

Never thought they would bring stuff like FF Explorers no one asked for ober...but than skip out on one of the best looking 3DS titles.

Where were these people when DQVII and VIII were localized on 3DS? Both of them are great remakes with great localization, and both sold like two dozen copies. Is it hard to understand why SE wouldn't want to localize another 70 hour DQ game on 3DS in 2018?
Weird argument....but old games and spin-offs sold amazing on PS4/Steam ?
DQH both games were massive bombas on Steam. people bring up the sales argument for the lack of 3DS DQ, but are totally fine ignoring that these games wouldnt have sold much better on other systems under these circumstances.

People on PS4/Steam already freak out if they have to wait a couple of week longer for a game...but 3DS owners should all have been lined on Day 1 for a 7 Remake 4 years after the JPN launch and after they already announced mobile versions of 7 and 8 ?
 

brinstar

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Where were these people when DQVII and VIII were localized on 3DS? Both of them are great remakes with great localization, and both sold like two dozen copies. Is it hard to understand why SE wouldn't want to localize another 70 hour DQ game on 3DS in 2018?
They were probably the same people who contributed to long threads wondering where the DQVII and VIII localizations were on GAF and other forums. Selling DQ to hardcore forum goers isn't the issue, it's basically everyone outside that.

And yeah we understand why they're not localizing it, but it doesn't make it any less frustrating.
 
I'll just be frank here: if Saito didn't slip his mouth and mentioned Switch in 2015, DQXI would come and go on this forum just like another niche JRPG. Now it's in the center of shitstorm that has very little to do with the game itself. If peoples show the same amount of enthusiasm to the franchise in real world as they do on forum, DQ would have been huge in the west.
Was it Saito, thought it was Yuji who's sort of famous for commenting on stuff he shouldn't yet.
 

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DQ in the west is still a niche series for many - without Nintendo we wouldnt have gotten a DQ RPG in who knows how many years. It just rumbs me the wrong way when they have a version ready, were they could use most of the PS4/Steam translation but decide against it.

Kudos to them if they think DQ is too big at this point for the 3DS - but every other niche series would be happy if they could sell or drop on a system with +40/50m systems out there.

Never thought they would bring stuff like FF Explorers no one asked for ober...but than skip out on one of the best looking 3DS titles.
I mean, they brought over FF Explorers 3 years ago, when Switch didn't exist. Things have clearly changed between now and then. That said I still wish they would release the 3DS version here, but it's not a 1:1 comparison (FF is also a stronger brand in the west).
 

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My personal bet is that the Switch version won't be a straight port of any actual version, and will be it's own thing.
 

Fraxin

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What happens when this insufferable old fart dies? Does his estate keep the DQ music rights for the next 100 years or do they revert to Square?

He sounds like a pain to work with.

Was just joking regarding the paperwork. But seriously, first DQVII on 3ds then VIII 3ds and now XI.

I'm not sure if his estate will have the rights. But hopefully by the next DQ game we will have a different composer, maybe the situation will get better and we get orchestral soundtrack.
 

NSESN

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I'll just be frank here: if Saito didn't slip his mouth and mentioned Switch in 2015, DQXI would come and go on this forum just like another niche JRPG. Now it's in the center of shitstorm that has very little to do with the game itself. If peoples show the same amount of enthusiasm to the franchise in real world as they do on forum, DQ would have been huge in the west.
Look, I know that the switch fans are being petty, but that doesn't change the fact of how disappointing the lack of 3DS version is.
Where were these people when DQVII and VIII were localized on 3DS? Both of them are great remakes with great localization, and both sold like two dozen copies. Is it hard to understand why SE wouldn't want to localize another 70 hour DQ game on 3DS in 2018?
I bought both games.
 

Aters

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Weird argument....but old games and spin-offs sold amazing on PS4/Steam ?
DQH both games were massive bombas on Steam. people bring up the sales argument for the lack of 3DS DQ, but are totally fine ignoring that these games wouldnt have sold much better on other systems under these circumstances.

Steam is worth trying because other SE games have sold well there. SE want to keep exploiting the Steam market because they believe it has potential, even though their previous ventures aren't successful. What potential market does 3DS have in 2018? It would be lucky if DQXI can sell as well as DQVIII last year.
 

Kufkah

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What are those people? People wanting a version to be localized is "dont give a shit about DQ" now? Why everything must be about console wars?
I think people asking for completed games to be held back until they can be launched alongside the version on their favorite platform... When ever that is, fit the description!
Yeah, having a WW launch for every platform would have been the ideal scenario. September is gonna be crazy anyway due to RDR 2 so better wait until early 2019. They even do PC version and not Switch despite having 3 years. Ridiculous.
 

Redcrayon

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Ah well, seeing as the Switch version isn't even out in Japan yet I'm not exactly surprised. Octopath, Fire Emblem and VC etc should tide me over.