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Final Fantasy XV Future DLC: Episodes Ardyn, Aranea, Luna & Noctis confirmed

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Vashetti said:
The DLC cannot be integrated into the main game without ruining the pacing and plot points.

Ep. Gladio is ~2 hours in a closed-off area
Ep. Prompto is a potentially-many-hours separate open-world and spoils late-game plot points
Ep. Ignis is ~2 hours in a closed-off area, spoils the ending, and presents you with alternate ending options

They cannot (and should not) be integrated into the main game, as they weren't designed for it. By all means, wait for PC modders to do this and force them into the campaign, and you and everyone else who keeps calling for this will realise what an awful idea it is.
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I was just asking a question buddy. :P

I platinum'd the game at launch but never bought any of the DLC or hell, played it ever since then. So I was wondering, as I saw only saw the trailers of the all the DLC pieces, if they were incorporated. I admit that using 'Cheap' gave a bad first impression though, heh.
 
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Seik said:
I was just asking a question buddy. :P

I platinum'd the game at launch but never bought any of the DLC or hell, played it ever since then. So I was wondering, as I saw only saw the trailers of the all the DLC pieces, if they were incorporated. I admit that using 'Cheap' gave a bad first impression though, heh.
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Sorry, wasn't going off on you directly.

I'm just fed up of people saying the equivalent of "I refuse to play this until the DLC is integrated into the main story". If you actually got to play the whole campaign like this, you would realise what an awful idea it was. The DLC simply wasn't conceived and designed to be played in that way. It would grind each section of the game (where the DLCs take place) to a halt and ruin the pacing, plus endgame plot points.

You want something that you don't realise you really don't want.

Imagine you're watching The Lord of the Rings movies, and whenever a reference to The Hobbit is made, it cuts to several hours of footage from The Hobbit movies, before returning you back to that last scene you were at in LOTR. That's what you're asking for.
 
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Oh boy the Episode Noctis is what's getting my really hyped.
 

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PlanetSmasher said:
Because it doesn't make sense to jump around a finished storyline piece by piece to watch a bunch of short story cutscenes without context. Narrative needs to be experienced in a linear fashion in order to function properly. It'd just be disjointed and unsatisfying, and they know that, which is why they stopped doing it after the few new cutscenes they added into the main game early in the process.
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It worked perfectly fine for the Insomnia scenario, and I've no doubt it was better to experience for a first timer who played it while progressing through the story naturally, rather than jumping through a bunch of menus to access it separately (and making sure to consult with others when it would be best to play, thanks to spoilers). If narrative needs to be experienced in a linear fashion in order to function properly, then it would be better to incorporate everything into the main game. I don't like how disjointed the game currently feels with the DLC being seperate. If you want to play the content seperate, then you could just use chapter select.
 
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Myrrh said:
It worked perfectly fine for the Insomnia scenario, and I've no doubt it was better to experience for a first timer who played it while progressing through the story naturally, rather than jumping through a bunch of menus to access it separately (and making sure to consult with others when it would be best to play, thanks to spoilers). If narrative needs to be experienced in a linear fashion in order to function properly, then it would be better to incorporate everything into the main game. I don't like how disjointed the game currently feels with the DLC being seperate. If you want to play the content seperate, then you could just use chapter select.
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It worked fine for Insomnia because it was an entirely new chapter set at the most disconnected portion of the main game. Giving players an entirely new Chapter 8 or Chapter 9 is a very different kind of scenario than giving players a new endgame jumping right off from the time skip.
 
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Ardyn's episode is going to be hype.

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Warrior of Light

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So if all of these are part of a non-canon alternative timeline, I guess that's a wrap for the main game and its canon plot? :(
 
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Hikari said:
I think you mean the disappointment caused them to create content.
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The new DLC is literally inspired a poll where they asked fans of the game what they wanted to see. But hey, let's all share our hot takes, why not?

Seriously, I get that XV is a divisive game, but not everything is always damage control.
 
Koozek

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R_thanatos said:
I . have the game since day one and .... i haven't played it yet.

Seems like i shouldn't be in a hurry to do so.

To be clear i'm glad this stuff exist since the only reason why i haven't played FF15 yet is a huge backlog
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Do you have the Season Pass? If not, and if you assumedly also don't have the Royal Pack (improves the final chapter) but want to experience the most up-to-date version, I'd recommend just getting the recently released Royal/Windows Edition, which include both the Season Pass and the Royal Pack, when it's on sale at <=$40 (buying both the SP and RP separately costs $25 + $15 too). Ideally get it digitally since the physical Royal Edition doesn't include the Season Pass or Royal Pack on disc anyway and they just come as voucher codes; that way you have the convenience of having FFXV digitally too.

Or well, if you want to wait until the 2019 DLCs are out too, wait for the Complete Edition next year which will surely include everything (SP + RP + 2019 DLCs). But those new DLCs aren't integral to the main game anyway and more like side stories and alternate ending stuff, so you could already jump into the main game this year if you liked. Pretty sure the core experience won't change much anymore.
 
Inuhanyou

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absolute garbage

Wasting time on alternate unnecessary ends and branches that further dilutes the mess that was already the story of the original game makes no sense. it takes away any semblance of poignancy from even the smallest amount of balls the original ending had
 
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I cannot wait. Really hope it turns out well, and that Comrades updates are substantial enough. Right now it's not that populated on PS4, and far too grindy.
 

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PlanetSmasher said:
It worked fine for Insomnia because it was an entirely new chapter set at the most disconnected portion of the main game. Giving players an entirely new Chapter 8 or Chapter 9 is a very different kind of scenario than giving players a new endgame jumping right off from the time skip.
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This is Chapter 12 we're talking about, and it's one of the shortest chapters in the entire game at about 20 minutes. You walk in Tenebrae, walk in the train, fight a single mob, and it's over. There was an entire dungeon that was rumored to have been removed from Tenebrae and it shows. IMO, it's the one area that needs the most attention, and there's a lot of potential to expand on Luna's character.
 
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PlanetSmasher said:
The new DLC is literally inspired a poll where they asked fans of the game what they wanted to see. But hey, let's all share our hot takes, why not?

Seriously, I get that XV is a divisive game, but not everything is always damage control.
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All of that content was given birth because it was what most players felt the game lacked. We dont know anything about Luna before she
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really, Ardyn is a great villain but more knowledge was required about him and all we got was paintings and yeah I dunno what else. Every single thing on that list is what fans wanted because they were disappointed so yes.... XV is a fantasy based on feedback.
 
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Village said:
you made this up

stop, people asked for this. STOP
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People asked for a complete game. They misinterpreted actually having characters actually matter in the story with creating unrelated DLC content. That's the entire reason they are attempting this kind of DLC right now, because the base game was fucked and they knew that shipping it.
 
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Inuhanyou said:
People asked for a complete game. They misinterpreted actually having characters actually matter in the story with creating unrelated DLC content. That's the entire reason they are attempting this kind of DLC right now, because the base game was fucked and they knew that shipping it.
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IIRC This dlc is literally because people asked for it
 
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Hikari said:
All of that content was given birth because it was what most players felt the game lacked. We dont know anything about Luna before she
dies off
really, Ardyn is a great villain but more knowledge was required about him and all we got was paintings and yeah I dunno what else. Every single thing on that list is what fans wanted because they were disappointed so yes.... XV is a fantasy based on feedback.
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I voted for Ardyn in the poll because I like him and want to see more of him. Had nothing to do with disappointment and everything to do with "hey, if they're giving us the option to flesh this character out, why not".

A full playable prequel chapter of Ardyn in the past should not have been included in the main game. It's insane to think that would've fit.
 
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I guess i'm ok since some cool mods will be out by that time too,which will refresh the experience for a 3rd playthrough along with these dlcs.
Are they all coming out together? or they will be spread out across the entire year? if that's the case,episode Noct is really far away.
 
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Wololo said:
So will these be patched in to the royal edition? Also what does this mean for the status of a hypothetical FF16? I imagine a separate team would be working on that?
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FinalBossw/theMostPower said:
I really enjoyed XV for what it was, but this is too much. They delivered an incomplete and incoherent game, which was carried solely by the polish of the final product and nostalgia. And now they want to sell the rest piecemeal? Granted the DLC is probably worth it if you're interested in fleshing out the story, but no thanks. Where's XVI?
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How do people think SE works? One team doing all mainline FFs simultaneously? SE has more than 10 internal Business Divisions of which 3 have been working on mainline FFs: BD1 on FFVII Remake, BD2 on FFXV, and BD5 on FFXIV.

Recently the FFXV team BD2 has transformed into their own separate company called Luminous Productions anyway - a pretty big feat and a sign of how much SE values Tabata's team after FFXV's success - and they're already working on a new next-gen IP and other stuff alongside the remaining FFXV DLCs. So no, the FFXV team has nothing to do with FFXVI or any other mainline FF. FFXVI surely has already been worked on for a while by another team (possibly BD5).
 
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can't wait for the level editor and mod tools, and I hope it gains enough traction so we can have our own Minna no golf on PC
 

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SunhiLegend said:
Honestly this is how I feel.
Brought FFXV during launch having never play a FF game before apart from a few hours of X and ending up loving the game, all these updates, comrades extension, DLC episodes are just awesome, the post launch for the game has been amazing.
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Agreed.
I'm a longtime fan of the franchise, ever since the original one on the NES.

My love for the franchise was somewhat damaged by XII and XIII, but thankfully it was completely restored with XV.

At launch I already thought it was a great game. Flawed, but still great.

Now with all the additions, and the upcoming DLC Episodes, it looks like XV could even climb the ranks of my favorite FF's ever.

I honestly can't wait for Episode Ardyn in particular. He's my favorite Final Fantasy villain.
 
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SugarNoodles said:
Yes but that's not really the point. There are always bound to be some people asking for certain things. It doesn't serve as some sort of seal of approval to go ahead with whatever they decide in the manner that they settle on.
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Yes... because they are a business is the business of making money. They are not your friend. Enough showed interest to make it worth the endevour , and they can make some money while continuing to make a game they seem to like working on so yeah. You honestly think they wont do it because internet forum guy doesn't want them to do it?

Do you understand how stupid that sounds?
 
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I may dip in for Aranea.

Maybe the Ardyn episode can help redeem one of the weakest villains in the history of the series (and it is a series that has pleanty of duds when it comes to their villians). As is, the more explicit his story became, the dumber the overall story got.
 
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PlanetSmasher said:
And what we seem to be getting is Ardyn's past, Luna's activities, Aranea's activities and the World of Ruin. Episode Noctis having a non-canon alt ending doesn't seem like such a bad deal.
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Doesn't Episode Luna also hint at it being part of the alternative timeline? And with Ardyn it could go either way. Actually, that would be the best approach. A solid backstory that works for both timelines.

Also, hard mode when?

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Nothing against BD5, itself, but I am not a fan of Yosh as I once were. Awesome job for turning XIV around, but since HW release his direction hasn't been nearly as solid. I will gladly take the writers tho. :)
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Have we played the same game? You really prefer the plot of ARR to that of HW and SB?! o_O
 
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Anyway, is that new artwork?

It doesn't resemble Aranea, somehow. Too young and cute. I'd make sense if the story is in the past, but it's not.
 
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Warrior of Light said:
Doesn't Episode Luna also hint at it being part of the alternative timeline? And with Ardyn it could go either way. Actually, that would be the best approach. A solid backstory that works for both timelines.

Also, hard mode when?
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Episode Luna probably has an alternate ending like Episode Ignis, but nothing in the description hints the WHOLE thing is alternative.

The description for the DLC even makes it clear that her story doesn't end when she dies, so it seems to be canon.

Episode Ardyn is very obviously prequel content, so I see no reason why it would be "alternate timeline". Unless there's an alternate ending where he decides NOT to wage war against the Lucis for thousands of years. But that wouldn't be the main ending, it would make zero sense.

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Anyway, is that new artwork?

It doesn't resemble Aranea, somehow. Too young and cute. I'd make sense if the story is in the past, but it's not.
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Looks like the same Aranea face we always see.
 
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Village said:
Yes... because they are a business is the business of making money. They are not your friend. Enough showed interest to make it worth the endevour , and they can make some money while continuing to make a game they seem to like working on so yeah. You honestly think they wont do it because internet forum guy doesn't want them to do it?

Do you understand how stupid that sounds?
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Lol that's quite the leap in logic. SE can do whatever they want, and they can be criticized for it. Not sure what you angle is in all this tbh.
 
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I wonder if once they are done with this game if they will be able to cobble it all together in such a way that it will feel like a cohesive product. Maybe, just maybe, Final Fantasy XV could one day feel like a finished game.
 
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