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FIA Formula One 2018 |OT| Halo: Racing Evolved
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They're just using youtube whereas Liberty is creating their own infrastructure. You can't compare this at all.
Well, Liberty's using Tata's infrastructure and technology but it was mostly just a snide remark. :)
Yeah, track resurfacing and softer tyres aside, the cars are very fast around here!
What's up with all the Pirelli helping Mercedes conspiracy stories, if my memory serves me right Pirelli decided to modify the tire structure ( for the newly resurfaced tracks) after the second winter testing, all the teams were aware of that fact.. am i missing something ?
Pirelli really did drop the ball here with the tyres. How can the SS tyres be slower overall on pace than the Soft tyres? That makes no sense.
Mercedes got a pole again, therefore it has to be because Pirelli bowed to their pressure. Facts are not needed here.
During the qually I complained to the F1 TV support [nobody answered me via site chat feature], and I just got this email:
According to AMUS Mercedes requested the changes, all the other team's had no problem with the tyres. So Pirelli accepted the bribe from Stuttgart and the result is a first qualifying Mercedes 1-2 of the season.
Secret tyre testing, now custom spec tyre, what's next?
In practice 1 - yes. Both Williams cars improved their times in practice 3 and then even more in qualifying (not enough to avoid being last though).
Yes I meant in the sessions where he was driving; obviously it would difficult for Kubica to set competitive times in the sessions where he's not driving :D
Stop spouting your dumb bullshit. All teams had problems with the tyres, there was severe graining, so they made the compound thinner to eliminate temp spikes.
If you want to know what happened with the tyres over the weekend, look at track temp tables.
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The secret illegal tyre test happened in Barcelona years ago.
Mercedes have got Pirelli in their back pocket.
This "bullshit" is from AMUS, so are you saying they're a non-trustworthy source and the team quotes in their article a complete fabrication?
Mercedes have got Pirelli in their back pocket.
This "bullshit" is from AMUS, so are you saying they're a non-trustworthy source and the team quotes in their article a complete fabrication?
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I will give you one chance to post a link to the AMuS article that speaks of Mercedes bribing Pirelli and conducting an illegal tire test. Or I will action your post accordingly.
Took about 10 seconds to find.
https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/8imrt3/pirelli_modified_the_tires_for_mercedes_amus/
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I see nothing of bribes or illegal tests in this article, so this is not the one Wax is citing.
A rough translation from the same article about the request Mercedes handed to Pirelli;
Pirelli followed the request by Mercedes." We would have done that anyway. We did the same in 2011 and 2012 in Monza and Spa" said Isola regarding fairness concerns.
Wax can go off on a tangent sometimes, but this is too far. It's blatant misinformation.
Fresh email I just got from Liberty:
"Hello,
Thanks for recently subscribing to F1 TV Pro.
As you may know, we have experienced some live play-back issues during our coverage of practice and qualifying from the Spanish Grand Prix.
We want to apologise for the inconvenience caused and we're working as quickly as we can to get these resolved for you. Unfortunately we do anticipate that the problems experienced during qualifying will not be resolved in time for the race.
Whilst we are experiencing some issues with the live video, you can still enjoy replays for all sessions including all on board cameras and unedited team radio, as well as Grands Prix from F1's historic archive.
Because of the problems you've been experiencing, we will be refunding you the equivalent of two weeks of your subscription. This will happen next week and it will be paid onto the card you subscribed with so there's nothing you need to do.
With this refund, the Grand Prix this weekend is on us.
Thanks for your patience and support.
The team at F1"
Le sigh. ~_~ Another race, another acestream.
"Hello,
Thanks for recently subscribing to F1 TV Pro.
As you may know, we have experienced some live play-back issues during our coverage of practice and qualifying from the Spanish Grand Prix.
We want to apologise for the inconvenience caused and we're working as quickly as we can to get these resolved for you. Unfortunately we do anticipate that the problems experienced during qualifying will not be resolved in time for the race.
Whilst we are experiencing some issues with the live video, you can still enjoy replays for all sessions including all on board cameras and unedited team radio, as well as Grands Prix from F1's historic archive.
Because of the problems you've been experiencing, we will be refunding you the equivalent of two weeks of your subscription. This will happen next week and it will be paid onto the card you subscribed with so there's nothing you need to do.
With this refund, the Grand Prix this weekend is on us.
Thanks for your patience and support.
The team at F1"
Le sigh. ~_~ Another race, another acestream.
Yup got the mail as well...
So... i'll get... 2 euros ?
Anyway, clean conscience and all, but it's still a little sad, that's all.
I waited for that since paid TV took over F1, i can wait a little more if it comes "free" until the technical difficulties are resolved. I'll still try to tune in for the race but my hopes are not high.
So... i'll get... 2 euros ?
Anyway, clean conscience and all, but it's still a little sad, that's all.
I waited for that since paid TV took over F1, i can wait a little more if it comes "free" until the technical difficulties are resolved. I'll still try to tune in for the race but my hopes are not high.
You know for the race tomorrow I can only tell you: Use a method to watch that you know reliably works.
The worst thing that is seeing the cars line up on the starting grid at the end of the formation lap only for the F1 TV stream to start going down.
The worst thing that is seeing the cars line up on the starting grid at the end of the formation lap only for the F1 TV stream to start going down.
My plan is to start with the ESPN2 broadcast, and then switch to F1TV replay later in the day to watch the rest. Hopefully the race is up quickly!
Is there a way to not be spoiled on the website?
Is there a way to not be spoiled on the website?
Not trying to speak of mod actions after the event but it seems like every time WFV posts nowadays, it causes the thread to go to shit while sanity tries to prevail over nonsense. They have always been a passionate poster but recently it's like they've went off the deep end which is a shame.
Fan fiction is one thing, blatant misinformation against teams is another. Why Pirelli, an Italian company, would favour Mercedes, a German one, over Ferrari, an Italian one is beyond me!
These tyres are only being used in tracks with new surfaces anyway, so not like previous changes to tyres mid season and were devised because all of the teams noted that tyre wear in testing was not as expected.
Anyway, Barcelona has rare overtaking but the first lap is crucial. The Ferrari can normally start well, so that could change things. Watch for Alonso too. This year he has fought up a bit in lap 1 and if he repeats his tricks at turn one that he specialises in here, he could be a spoiler for RBR especially.
Edit: Williams are so bad.
I feel for those struggling with streaming. I would not have access to this race but I'm switching to Sky and the PC spp let's me stream despite not having the service until June, yey.
Fan fiction is one thing, blatant misinformation against teams is another. Why Pirelli, an Italian company, would favour Mercedes, a German one, over Ferrari, an Italian one is beyond me!
These tyres are only being used in tracks with new surfaces anyway, so not like previous changes to tyres mid season and were devised because all of the teams noted that tyre wear in testing was not as expected.
Anyway, Barcelona has rare overtaking but the first lap is crucial. The Ferrari can normally start well, so that could change things. Watch for Alonso too. This year he has fought up a bit in lap 1 and if he repeats his tricks at turn one that he specialises in here, he could be a spoiler for RBR especially.
Edit: Williams are so bad.
I feel for those struggling with streaming. I would not have access to this race but I'm switching to Sky and the PC spp let's me stream despite not having the service until June, yey.
This is why he's been on my ignore list since before we moved to Era. I don't mind #bantz but talking complete and utter irrefutable bollocks time and again and having to watch the thread descend into anarchy every time is tiresome.
Elsewhere that kind of behaviour would just get you a threadban, though I don;t know if that's possible here.
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Same here and still when I saw post #7104 I was sure it was WFV at it again.
Mercedes conspiracies aside, I don't enjoy Pirelli in Formula 1. Their tyres are literally unpredictable, so much that their own engineers get the numbers and pace wrong every weekend. Remember that time Mario Isola was talking about how Vettel's tyres will easily last, then they blew up, and after the race he said it was obvious they wouldn't last? That was dumb. And yet another time we seea change during the season. Regardless of who it favors, it's bad form. And to me the fact the tyres blow up when degraded will never feel right, not when I have in my mind Raikkonen in 2005 whose tyre was so degraded the suspensions exploded from the vibration but not the tyre, or when in China 2007 you could see the white inside of the tyre on Hamilton's tyre and he was losing several seconds, but the tyre didn't explode. Pirelli is not doing a good job, and while unpredictability and chaos make for fun races, it's no laughing matter to see teams spending hundreds of millions on a car only for Pirelli to deliver a tyre that is not what everyone built a car for.
So I just had a shower tought.
We are ahead of another set of big regulation changes which sometimes work, sometimes don't. Why wouldn't they introduce changes one year prior in F2 or GP3 to see if it improves the show, before they gamble several times more money in F1 on good for nothing R&D?
We are ahead of another set of big regulation changes which sometimes work, sometimes don't. Why wouldn't they introduce changes one year prior in F2 or GP3 to see if it improves the show, before they gamble several times more money in F1 on good for nothing R&D?
I tend to agree with you, however Pirelli were given a mandate (rightly or wrongly), to have tyres to degrade to spice up the show. Problem is Pirelli can't seem to produce a tyre that operates in a broad range of conditions, these tyres are extremely sensitive, be it track conditions or being prone to punctures from the slightest bit of contact or debris.
Don't think F1 needs another tyre war. Michelin are not interested in F1 unless we go to low profile tyres. Who else will supply tyres? No idea if Bridgestone would even consider it...
The formula are quite different already. F2 doesn't have the crazy front wings that F1 does, and that's one of the major changes coming sooner rather than later to improve the show. It would be difficult to test it in F2 as theirs is already basic.
The history of f1 is that Bernie doesn't like something so the rules get changed to suit, or the FIA ban something. Rarely was any testing or study done, and if it was it was only on improving lap time. That's why we ended up with the PUs we have now and the wide tyres. "How can we make the cars go faster" rather than "how can we make racing better".
The work being undertaken by Brawn is specifically in the area of improving the racing, and the show, even if it means slightly slower cars. More revs, more noise, cleaner wake to allow a car to follow.
So are they completely removing halo mounted mirrors or just banning extra winglets attached to them?
If I understand AMuS article correctly, they are banning current Ferrari solution - they have winglet as a part of the mirror
Quite possibly but the fact that everyone kept sliding off during FP increases the chance for a safety car or two and the strategy fuckery we've seen in every race this season
Talking of wrenches, it rained heavily overnight and the GP3 race on right now is wet and has had three safety cars so far. So the track will be green for the race later on.