Yeah the $.127 is based on actual numbers he sent me. He's got a Model 3 on order but he already has a Mercedes B-class EV. He got a second meter installed for time of day metering and the utility gives him a $.025/kwh EV discount on top of that.
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Yeah the $.127 is based on actual numbers he sent me. He's got a Model 3 on order but he already has a Mercedes B-class EV. He got a second meter installed for time of day metering and the utility gives him a $.025/kwh EV discount on top of that.
Pretty big news,
Good bye $$$ for people waiting for AWD
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/994980692160217088?s=21
Good bye $$$ for people waiting for AWD
Man I want dual motor...i wonder what the performance will be like I don't think I've seen anything out on it, 0-60 under 3?
No way. For the S the difference between single and dual motor is pretty minimal. A few tenths tops.
The Performance model should be interesting though. I can't imagine it being that fast though. Probably a little under 4 seconds to 60.
Totally I should put a new preorder in and see what happens worst case scenario I just seek a refund down the road
Yeah I am on time of day in Los Angeles and it is way cheaper. I wish I had gone to time of day years ago. My first payment, even with adding charging the car, went down $20.
No, not that we know of.
Yup, much lighter, but less less overall energy in The batteries compared to the craziest S cars. As quick as the LR 3 already is, an insanely faster one for still under $70k (presumably) would be ridiculous.
No, the motors are different as well as some other hardware improvements. Not to mention bigger brakes and things like you'd find on an upgraded ICE car trim.
Only problem with that, I would be at the back of the queue because I stupidly did not order two.
And there we go! That's when I'll place my order! Got the email to design it a few weeks back, but was waiting for AWD before placing the order.
My Corolla has was made in the Fremont plant and I would really like a 3, but the working conditions are awful and Tesla is rabidly anti union. I'll probably get one if they are able to unionize one day. The Bolt is UAW, so I'm looking at leasing one of those for now.
You can easily flip your car on ebay for ~1-1.5x what you paid. There are people who want an M3 instantly
I am kinda leaning toward AWD because of snow and winter. But I hear FWD is not too shabby in winter either.
It's actually a RWD car.
Traded it in during the sales process.
Teslas are RWD if you don't get AWD, thank God. None of that FWD shit on Teslas.
As always, when it comes to actual serious snow, RWD with a set of snow tires is superior to AWD with all-seasons. Of course if you're after AWD and snow tires then you should get AWD.
Doh. Yeah Tesla's RWD.
Interesting. I found this video below and yeah it looks like it's easily comparable to AWD (if not, better) when you get snow tires. Guess I'm not leaning to the dual motor AWD after all! I'm not a performance nerd either so I was after the utility of the vehicle during winter.
If you put your reservation down now, I think you will be able to configure in a week or two as you are now an existing owner. Worth a shot since it's refundable. You would just be at the end of the line of the people who deferred waiting for dual motor. Pretty sure some people have been working the system this way.
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Really enjoying my model 3. Gave all of my extended family ride/tours in it today during mother's day.
Does owner status apply to model 3 owners? I thought it was just S and X owners.
Sold my 2010 Prius on craigslist to a guy who had a horrible commute and needed the MPG.
Used most of that money on the lease driveoff, and got all of it back from the CARB rebate + SoCal Edison cash reward later on.
Wife is still down at July delivery for her single motor Model 3. Now to convince her that she needs to jump on that dual motor bandwagon.
I get her old Camry when she gets the Tesla. Sure, I may have to wait longer to have a car with AC, but having a dual motor will be nice on the tesla
I get her old Camry when she gets the Tesla. Sure, I may have to wait longer to have a car with AC, but having a dual motor will be nice on the tesla
It shouldn't, but I'm pretty sure it does. Some people have been trying to game the system + gvmt via it I think. Pretty cheap experiment though.
I'm kind of considering upgrading to dual motor as well. If tesla gives me anything over cost of car - tax credit in trade in, then I could essentially upgrade for free since, wouldn't have much sales tax because trade in offsets it in my state. I probably would have just waited for dual motor if I had any belief that it would be possible during the full tax credit period, so I didn't have the "intention" of buying the car to sell it again.
I'm ~2 weeks from delivery, here in Ontario, Canada.
VIN assigned, financing in order, car is en route to Oakville.. Delivery advisor said "last week of may or potentially sooner" -- it's getting more and more real.
They offered $250 for my 2006 mazda 3 hatchback, lol.. I accepted it because I am not going thru the hassle of a private sale of a vehicle that has been in multiple collisions (other drivers hit me! - I was never at fault, hehe) and is rusting from the bottom up.
VIN assigned, financing in order, car is en route to Oakville.. Delivery advisor said "last week of may or potentially sooner" -- it's getting more and more real.
They offered $250 for my 2006 mazda 3 hatchback, lol.. I accepted it because I am not going thru the hassle of a private sale of a vehicle that has been in multiple collisions (other drivers hit me! - I was never at fault, hehe) and is rusting from the bottom up.
How did the whole purchase work? If AWD orders can be placed next week (as I got the email to design it but waiting for AWD first), how did the flow go? I know you have to put $3,000 down right away, and I will also need financing.
After doing the deposit, how long did it take for someone to call you regarding financing, and how long did it take for you to get approved? At what point do you call the insurance company to insure the car? Do they deliver right to your home, or to the nearest store?
Keep in mind I haven't yet picked up my car, but the process right now in Ontario (Canada in general, actually) is a little backward.
You put the $1000 down for your initial reservation.
When you configure your car you put down a further $3200 (These are canadian prices, remember).
Your order/build does not move forward until you put your $3200 down.
At that point, your reservation page updates with a number of items required to take delivery:
1) Are you financing via tesla, or a bank, or paying with cash? (you select one of the three)
2) Are you trading in a vehicle?
3) Your vehicle registration address/info.
4) Your insurance info (I uploaded a copy of my CURRENT vehicle's insurance, as you can't really get tesla insurance without your VIN), this step is purely so they know you have insurance on your current vehicle.
As I said, deliveries are kinda backward / hectic in Canada atm, so it took about 5.5 weeks from configuring to when I was assigned my VIN number. My 'delivery estimate' was 4-8 weeks, so it was still within that timeframe.
We got word that delivery associates were phoning people in the initial delivery batch, and I was anxiously awaiting a call -- that didn't come right away.
So I called the location that was closest, and spoke to a delivery specialist (Option #4 on their touch tone system), who told me that I should be expecting a call in a day or so, seeing as they had lots to get through. She asked me if I was financing or trading in, and I said yes to both - so she activated those two areas on my web portal and I applied for financing directly through the website. I was approved within the hour and then the emails began.
A financial specialist from Tesla in california emailed me, CC'd my delivery advisor, and we went through the various term lengths and interest rates.
Later the same day, my delivery advisor asked me to take photos of my trade-in, provide odometer readings and various other stuff about it, and they came back a day or so later with a preliminary estimate.
So right now, all my financing is in order, I have a quote for my trade-in, and I'm awaiting news on my delivery date.
He said that they hope to have all information regarding the order, financing, etc, squared away approx 3 days prior to delivery, so I can literally show up, sign papers, and drive away in the last week of may (or sooner, depending on vehicle transit time).
Perfect, thanks! I'm in Canada too (Alberta), so was curious as to how things worked for you, as I'm assuming I will end up going through a similar process. Much appreciated!
Where's the info on the dual motor and performance option that's supposed to be available to order at the end of this week? I guess they have a couple of days to be the end of the week though.
I've been sitting on my build for months. I don't want a full optioned model. It's not worth the cost; I'd rather a Model S at that price point. I might end up going AWD though I prefer RWD, so I don't miss out on the tax credit.
You forgot to account for time dilation inherent when converting Elon Time™ to Earth time.
Model S and Model 3 are surprisingly different cars. The sheer size differential alone makes them very different, so does the weight differential. If I was looking for a car that was more fun on curves, I would get the lighter and more nimble 3. However nothing can touch the S when your goal is to drive straight for a quarter mile as fast as you can.
Just because you can afford the Audi A8 doesn't mean you should get it over the A4 or the A6, maybe you don't want a full-size sedan as opposed to a mid-sized sedan. The S is a big fucking car, I didn't even realize it until I owned it and discovered that many parking spaces don't fit it very well if at all and many roads are so narrow that it almost doesn't fit without me nearly side-swiping the guy in the adjacent lane. I've heard about people trading down from the S to the 3 just because they want their goddamn car to be smaller and be easier to drive around and park in the city. Fortunately I'm not in the city that much lately and it's not that big a problem for me.
That being said, if you're after RWD because of how much you like drifting around curves or doing donuts in parking lots, you should be aware that the electronic traction and stability control on Teslas cannot be defeated unless pull a fuse that powers the car's main computer. The car still drives this way, because of the miracle of redundancies, but you literally will have nothing functioning in the car. If you're chasing the tax credit, just get the AWD and be done with it. There are no benefits to RWD in Teslas except cost, and the tax credit will more than cover that.
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Impossible to say. If they reach a 5k/week run rate as soon as June/July, and you get in line with 450,000 people ahead of you, then hypothetically you would be waiting 450,000 / 5,000 = 90 weeks, or 1.73 years. Since we're discussing Elon Time™ here, I think a rough estimate of 2 years would be a safe guess. I mean they are saying they'll reach 10k/week run rate sometime in 2019 which would shorten the wait but who knows at this point. I would say if you're not sure, just put the $1k cash down and get in line. The wait list isn't going to get shorter, in fact it has been getting longer. You can always cancel the deposit later.
My ETA was May-Jul, but I haven't received an email.
I guess I'll just wait and save some cash. . . .
I guess I'll just wait and save some cash. . . .
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...MPY0K9TfOCDz83A_7HGcQCl/pubhtml?gid=872878915
Looks like everything is going to Canada now. Probably getting close to the 200k US deliveries mark and they're trying to time it so it hits at the start of Q3 to maximize the amount of time the tax credit will be available.
Looks like everything is going to Canada now. Probably getting close to the 200k US deliveries mark and they're trying to time it so it hits at the start of Q3 to maximize the amount of time the tax credit will be available.
https://electrek.co/2018/05/19/tesl...e-version-ac-induction-permanent-magnet-motor
No pricing yet but some additional nuggets of info.
No pricing yet but some additional nuggets of info.
Elon has tweeted more info.
Tesla dual motor, all-wheel drive performance Model 3:
3.5 sec 0-60mph
155 mph Top Speed
310 mile Range
Cost of all options, wheels, paint, etc is included (apart from Autopilot). Cost is $78k. About same as BMW M3, but 15% quicker & with better handling. Will beat anything in its class on the track.
Black & white interior available only for Model 3 Performance initially due to limited parts availability. Will broaden over time.
Tesla AWD is dual motor, so you can fully drive the car even if one breaks
Tesla dual motor, all-wheel drive performance Model 3:
3.5 sec 0-60mph
155 mph Top Speed
310 mile Range
Cost of all options, wheels, paint, etc is included (apart from Autopilot). Cost is $78k. About same as BMW M3, but 15% quicker & with better handling. Will beat anything in its class on the track.
Black & white interior available only for Model 3 Performance initially due to limited parts availability. Will broaden over time.
Tesla AWD is dual motor, so you can fully drive the car even if one breaks
Damn $78k, at some point they are going to have to discontinue the S 75D and only sell the S 100D/P100D if they are going to run 3 pricing right up against S pricing like this.
Can't wait for the videos showing this thing trashing a BMW M3 so I can show my friend who loves BMW :D
Can't wait for the videos showing this thing trashing a BMW M3 so I can show my friend who loves BMW :D
Dual motor tweet from Elon
Cost of normal dual motor AWD option is $5k. Range is also 310 miles. Takes 0-60mph to 4.5 sec & top speed to 140 mph.
Tesla dual motor means there is a motor in front & a motor in rear. One is optimized for power & one for range. Car drives fine even if a motor breaks down. Helps ensure you make it to your destination & don't get stuck on side of road in potentially unsafe conditions.
Cost of normal dual motor AWD option is $5k. Range is also 310 miles. Takes 0-60mph to 4.5 sec & top speed to 140 mph.
Tesla dual motor means there is a motor in front & a motor in rear. One is optimized for power & one for range. Car drives fine even if a motor breaks down. Helps ensure you make it to your destination & don't get stuck on side of road in potentially unsafe conditions.
AWD is a must in snowy Norway and will be part of my configuration (the normal edition).
Normal AWD + large battery + Autopilot.
Normal AWD + large battery + Autopilot.
The website is getting seriously weird. I actually have a second reservation and there are subtle changes, on mobile I think the page that appears before the design studio that advised that AWD and standard range are later (mid '18 for AWD and early '19 for SR) is now gone and it goes directly into the design studio, but AWD is still not selectable. (Edit: now it's acting like I don't have an invite to configure on my second reservation)
On desktop I can't even get into the design studio. Everything is super wonky and even my existing car isn't showing up in my account.
I wonder if this is about to roll out once things stabilize...
On desktop I can't even get into the design studio. Everything is super wonky and even my existing car isn't showing up in my account.
I wonder if this is about to roll out once things stabilize...
For some time now, the plan has been for the "standard" lower-range, $35k base price version of the car to start production in 2019.