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Deleted member 9100

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Oct 26, 2017
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I doubt the AMC show will return. The show is entirely based around interviews with a guest and after these allegations, no one will want to be a guest.
 

Lukar

Unshakable Resolve - Prophet of Truth
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Oct 27, 2017
23,427
Adios. They should get Yvette Nicole Brown to host Talking Dead now.
I love YNB every time I see her, especially on TD though. You can tell she's genuinely a fan of the show, and she's a really positive person. I can't think of a better replacement than her.
 

Derrick01

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
7,289
C-List is the right term for him. He's a talk show guy but he doesn't really perform in anything and if you don't pay attention to the nerd-culture stuff he hosts you probably have no idea who he is. His star doesn't stretch very far.

He's sort of like the nerdy ryan seacrest. He somehow gets all these hosting gigs but no one knows what they actually do. Like what talents they have to get this kind of attention from everyone.
 

PlanetSmasher

The Abominable Showman
Member
Oct 25, 2017
115,876
He's sort of like the nerdy ryan seacrest. He somehow gets all these hosting gigs but no one knows what they actually do. Like what talents they have to get this kind of attention from everyone.

I think in both cases the answer is schmoozing. Hardwick is a god-tier schmoozer, he has an uncanny ability to worm his way into a conversation and act like your best friend even if he doesn't actually give a shit about you as a person. It's a really popular skill for people in the entertainment industry with more business drive than raw talent.

The only people his skill doesn't work on are jaded old bastards like Harrison Ford and Mel Brooks.
 

ZattMurdock

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
10,333
Earth 616
If that snippet from his book is faked, that's a fucked up thing to do. There's absolutely no need to muddy the waters like that.

Can confirm. Just got the ebook of The Nerdist Way and did a search for some of those keywords in the tweet (like revved, DeLorean, etc).

That passage seems completely falsified. (I'm about 99% sure, unless my app is somehow not finding the text, which I doubt)

Fucking people, just stop it. What Hardwick did is enough to condemn him without having to muddy the waters with this stuff.

It seems pretty much confirmed that the excerpt is fake. Since I was the one bringing it up on the thread, I just want to apologize and say that I only did post because there was several RTs on that tweet and other tweets posting variations of that same one.

With that said, there's a shitload of evidence against Hardwick rolling around that DO come from legitimate sources, ex coworkers testimonials included. Glad to see the fast AMC response to this. And this is a great take:

 

Volimar

volunteer forum janitor
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Oct 25, 2017
38,582
It seems pretty much confirmed that the excerpt is fake. Since I was the one bringing it up on the thread, I just want to apologize and say that I only did post because there was several RTs on that tweet and other tweets posting variations of that same one.

With that said, there's a shitload of evidence against Hardwick rolling around that DO come from legitimate sources, ex coworkers testimonials included. Glad to see the fast AMC response to this. And this is a great take:




Chloe can host. She has done a couple of cosplay shows on Nerdist and I think one on Syfy.
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
76,219
Providence, RI
It seems pretty much confirmed that the excerpt is fake. Since I was the one bringing it up on the thread, I just want to apologize and say that I only did post because there was several RTs on that tweet and other tweets posting variations of that same one.

Right. But hopefully you've learned that "it had several RTs" does not make it valid information. That is part of the problem with Twitter and social media in general and is exactly what leads to "fake news."

You're really big on embedding tweets you find (not just here but in other threads as well), which is fine, but you gotta look into them more first.
 

Volimar

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Oct 25, 2017
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Right. But hopefully you've learned that "it had several RTs" does not make it valid information. That is part of the problem with Twitter and social media in general and is exactly what leads to "fake news."

You're really big on embedding tweets you find (not just here but in other threads as well), which is fine, but you gotta look into them more first.


I've been bamboozled a time or two as well. Why people gotta lie on the internet?
 

ZattMurdock

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
10,333
Earth 616
I don't think Chloe wants to literally take Hardwick's jobs, guys. She isn't going to want to host anything he has hosted.
Hence why I said she should be going for a gaming host job. I don't think anyone is advocating for Chloe to get "Hardwick's job", it's about she actually getting a job fairly, with no blacklisting shit happening.
 

EvilChameleon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,793
Ohio
No surprise that "The Wall" is going to remove him as host. LeBron is one of the executive producers of that show, and he won't put up with nonsense.
 

Suicide King

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,018
Just going to add on, as I know they people have, that this can come from women towards men as well. It's not as common, obviously, but one of my ex girlfriends did a lot of stuff to physically stop me from seeing friends and generally having a life outside of her and then would be like "Why don't you hang out with your friends more??" It's really easy to start rationalizing this behavior, especially if you're financially tied to the person (ie you live together and can't afford the place on your own if you break up). Walking away, even in this kind of relationship, can be hard to do.

Didn't mean to try and one-up or anything, just sharing an additional experience.
You are definitely correct. I am a male, and had a relationship like that as well. She usually told me to kill myself or called me an ape multiple times (she's white and I'm black). She also took my phone from me to check my messages and delete some numbers of my female friends. I was always feeling guilty, until it was over because I told her that I liked another girl. She then blocked me, unblocked me, blocked me again, etc.

It's definitely a gender neutral behavior.
 

Jiggy

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
9,291
wherever
He's done.

Producers will find another Chris Hardwick to host their pop culture shit by the end of the day. They're not exactly unicorns.
 

Falconbox

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
4,600
Buffalo, NY
Assuming Talking Dead isn't fully canceled, I'd love for them to have Chandler Riggs (Carl) as the host from now on, or maybe even rotate in a lot of old cast members to be host.

I can't imagine Walking Dead has too many seasons left anyways.
 

ZattMurdock

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
10,333
Earth 616
Kazinsky (Chloe's current boyfriend and Orgrim in Duncan Jones WARCRAFT) liked this tweet and I agree wholeheartedly:



It's obvious to me, but it might not be obvious to others: the gist of the problem is, Chloe didn't have other option to settle this but to go public. This part stands out: "His success is on the backs, probably, of other people used and abused and her lack of progress on his blacklistings". Regardless how much we downplay Hardwick as just another average white nerd, he was one with actual pull and power, especially in the field that Chloe works. She had not choice but speak up because not only he screwed her up emotionally while they were in a relationship, the abuse kept happening even after their relationship was over.
 

ryllix

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
279
If she claims to have evidence, she should present it. After the Takei thing, I'm a bit hesitant. Hardwick seems like a douche, but if you are admitting to having evidence it would be easy to prove. Most victims wish they had evidence.
 

xinoart

Member
Oct 27, 2017
506
Some one please explain to me why everyone thinks he's guilty with only her word? I mean, he's been known for a very long time by a lot of people who never went on his shows as a good guy, people who had no ties to his source of income. Saying "I didn't like him so I know I'm right now!" is a stupid reason so please refrain from such an excuse. I honestly haven't seen a single thing about him being capable of something like this from anyone in the past 25 years since he's been in the entertainment industry. Just because there are details or a disturbing edge to the accusations don't mean any of it's true. It's happened many times before and this could be a case of it happening again. I don't understand this new wave of every guy is guilty just "because".

I want to see the proof since it supposedly exists.
 

ryllix

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
279
Some one please explain to me why everyone thinks he's guilty with only her word? I mean, he's been known for a very long time by a lot of people who never went on his shows as a good guy, people who had no ties to his source of income. Saying "I didn't like him so I know I'm right now!" is a stupid reason so please refrain from such an excuse. I honestly haven't seen a single thing about him being capable of something like this from anyone in the past 25 years since he's been in the entertainment industry. Just because there are details or a disturbing edge to the accusations don't mean any of it's true. It's happened many times before and this could be a case of it happening again. I don't understand this new wave of every guy is guilty just "because".

I want to see the proof since it supposedly exists.
I'm only asking for proof because she herself said she has audio and video evidence. It's reasonable to request that before condemning someone.
 

kmfdmpig

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
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Some one please explain to me why everyone thinks he's guilty with only her word? I mean, he's been known for a very long time by a lot of people who never went on his shows as a good guy, people who had no ties to his source of income. Saying "I didn't like him so I know I'm right now!" is a stupid reason so please refrain from such an excuse. I honestly haven't seen a single thing about him being capable of something like this from anyone in the past 25 years since he's been in the entertainment industry. Just because there are details or a disturbing edge to the accusations don't mean any of it's true. It's happened many times before and this could be a case of it happening again. I don't understand this new wave of every guy is guilty just "because".

I want to see the proof since it supposedly exists.

There were others on Twitter that backed her account. Not to mention his denial was pretty narrow to only include sexual assault without touching on the other issues.
Finally, and most importantly what reason would she have to lie while claiming to have audio/video evidence? If she were scorned and lying wouldn't she have been more blatant about who it was rather than keeping things vague.
 

ryllix

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
279
There were others on Twitter that backed her account. Not to mention his denial was pretty narrow to only include sexual assault without touching on the other issues.
Finally, and most importantly what reason would she have to lie while claiming to have audio/video evidence? If she were scorned and lying wouldn't she have been more blatant about who it was rather than keeping things vague.
Saying that you have audio and video evidence does not prove that the evidence exists
 

Lord Brady

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
8,392
Some one please explain to me why everyone thinks he's guilty with only her word? I mean, he's been known for a very long time by a lot of people who never went on his shows as a good guy, people who had no ties to his source of income. Saying "I didn't like him so I know I'm right now!" is a stupid reason so please refrain from such an excuse. I honestly haven't seen a single thing about him being capable of something like this from anyone in the past 25 years since he's been in the entertainment industry. Just because there are details or a disturbing edge to the accusations don't mean any of it's true. It's happened many times before and this could be a case of it happening again. I don't understand this new wave of every guy is guilty just "because".

I want to see the proof since it supposedly exists.
If he's innocent, he should be demanding to see the proof she claims to have. The easiest way to clear his name would be to prove her a liar, and so far at least he hasn't been too vocal about wanting to see the proof.
 

xinoart

Member
Oct 27, 2017
506
There were others on Twitter that backed her account. Not to mention his denial was pretty narrow to only include sexual assault without touching on the other issues.
Finally, and most importantly what reason would she have to lie while claiming to have audio/video evidence? If she were scorned and lying wouldn't she have been more blatant about who it was rather than keeping things vague.
Just because other people think she's telling the truth meansshe's telling the truth now? And so what he specifically denied the sexual abuse. That's the most damning (to most people) accusations. How does that suddenly make him guilty as well? People have accused many other while saying they have proof and been lying completely. They do it so they can settle it out of court.

If he's innocent, he should be demanding to see the proof she claims to have. The easiest way to clear his name would be to prove her a liar, and so far at least he hasn't been too vocal about wanting to see the proof.

Oh so he should do all of this in the open, in social media, for no reason, without any thinking about any legal recourse he may have, without talking to a lawyer, so people on the internet who have already made up their mind are placated? Gotcha.
 

Volimar

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't want anyone to cast dispersions, but is it known for a fact who the woman was that helped blacklist her?
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Oh so he should do all of this in the open, in social media, for no reason, without any thinking about any legal recourse he may have, without talking to a lawyer, so people on the internet who have already made up their mind are placated? Gotcha.

But she should post the evidence out for all to see, because... why, exactly? Chloe is likely going through very similar legal proceedings to make sure the people who actually need to see any evidence she has, see said evidence. The public doesn't need to see it.
 

ZattMurdock

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
10,333
Earth 616
There were others on Twitter that backed her account. Not to mention his denial was pretty narrow to only include sexual assault without touching on the other issues.
Finally, and most importantly what reason would she have to lie while claiming to have audio/video evidence? If she were scorned and lying wouldn't she have been more blatant about who it was rather than keeping things vague.

He covered all the bases, actually: denied only the "sexual assault", not really being clear about anything else and that's MOST of what Chloe said on her post, to anyone paying attention. Also, by saying this, he's covering any audio evidence she might have of them arguing: "Our three year relationship was not perfect—we were ultimately not a good match and argued—even shouted at each other—but I loved her, and did my best to uplift and support her as a partner and companion in any way and at no time did I sexually assault her".

The reason that it's even more disheartening to see people here on Era and social media demanding "proof" from Chloe is this:



Literally all he did was to deny to sexually assault her. Everything else about how abusive their relationship was... nada. He goes as far as admit to "shout" at her. He is full of shit and I can't believe some can't see it yet. Why is so ridiculously hard to some to believe women?
 

Messofanego

Member
Oct 25, 2017
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UK
He covered all the bases, actually: denied only the "sexual assault", not really being clear about anything else and that's MOST of what Chloe said on her post, to anyone paying attention. Also, by saying this, he's covering any audio evidence she might have of them arguing: "Our three year relationship was not perfect—we were ultimately not a good match and argued—even shouted at each other—but I loved her, and did my best to uplift and support her as a partner and companion in any way and at no time did I sexually assault her".

What is more disheartening to see people here on Era and social media demanding "proof" from Chloe is this:



And literally all he did was to deny to sexually assault her. Everything else about how abusive their relationship was... nada. He goes as far as admit to "shout" at her. He is full of shit and I can't believe some can't see it yet. Why is so ridiculously hard to some to believe women?

Agreed. That tweet will have future use.
 

Lord Brady

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
8,392
Just because other people think she's telling the truth meansshe's telling the truth now? And so what he specifically denied the sexual abuse. That's the most damning (to most people) accusations. How does that suddenly make him guilty as well? People have accused many other while saying they have proof and been lying completely. They do it so they can settle it out of court.



Oh so he should do all of this in the open, in social media, for no reason, without any thinking about any legal recourse he may have, without talking to a lawyer, so people on the internet who have already made up their mind are placated? Gotcha.
Yes, if he's sure she's lying, that's exactly what he should do. The quicker he saves his reputation, the better. Forcing her hand doesn't stop him from then suing her later, but it could stop him from losing even more gigs.
 
Oct 25, 2017
26,560
Some one please explain to me why everyone thinks he's guilty with only her word? I mean, he's been known for a very long time by a lot of people who never went on his shows as a good guy, people who had no ties to his source of income. Saying "I didn't like him so I know I'm right now!" is a stupid reason so please refrain from such an excuse. I honestly haven't seen a single thing about him being capable of something like this from anyone in the past 25 years since he's been in the entertainment industry. Just because there are details or a disturbing edge to the accusations don't mean any of it's true. It's happened many times before and this could be a case of it happening again. I don't understand this new wave of every guy is guilty just "because".

I want to see the proof since it supposedly exists.
You should read more people's abuse stories if any of this seems like a stretch to you. People are much different in their private life than they are in their public.
 

xinoart

Member
Oct 27, 2017
506
Yes, if he's sure she's lying, that's exactly what he should do. The quicker he saves his reputation, the better. Forcing her hand doesn't stop him from then suing her later, but it could stop him from losing even more gigs.

Very true, but with so many different aspects to cover, you can't just demand someone has proof when it literally involves millions of dollars and future livelihoods of many people. For a simple individual as myself, I could do that, but with someone who has so many projects future projects in different stages and involved in so many projects going on currently, it's not impossible but highly stupid do so such a thing.

You should read more people's abuse stories if any of this seems like a stretch to you. People are much different in their private life than they are in their public.

I literally know more than anyone on this here forum from personal experience than just from reading stories of people I don't know and have reason to lie just for internet fame.