But that imbecile also wants out.
I just don't understand this. NEITHER party wants to say "maybe we made a mistake guys, lets pretend this never happened."
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Internal US ambassadorial briefing on Brexit: "the economy is going to tank"
- Thread starter Jackpot
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But that imbecile also wants out.
I just don't understand this. NEITHER party wants to say "maybe we made a mistake guys, lets pretend this never happened."
But the referendum took place on June 23, 2016.From 1.15 to 1.15, not bad. Here's Canada over the same period:
Looking at the currency isn't very meaningful.
There was a picture of migrants from what I assume were Muslim and African countries though. That was jarring to see used in a political way.
Brexit supporters with every new piece of "positive" news
The end of this is rather apt, when he thinks he finishes and turns over the page to see more questions.
Brexit in a sketch show
Brexiteers
Brexiteers when told their country will suffer
Brexiteers when being beaten with facts
Government Brexit negotiating team in the morning to the press
Government negotiating team actually negotiating with the EU
Hope Brexit doesn't lead to more poms immigrating to Australia. I want to live to see Neighbours get cancelled.
The way things are lining up, Im thinking the end of November
The biggest thing here is the fact that so many of the political class and especially the Leave morons have brought into their own fantasy that this is a "negotiation" between equal parties when it is plainly nothing of the sort. Delusional does not even begin to address it. They have drank their own Kool Aid.
I mean it's likely not wrong but did anyone actually watch it? This guy is a paid up Trump mouthpiece who's a friend of his with no actual experience other than throwing money at Trump. He shows himself to be a buffoon repeatedly.
Id personally not take his word for anything just as I wouldn't Trumps. Brexit will no doubt be shit but this guys is literally just a rich clown so why should I trust his word?
Id personally not take his word for anything just as I wouldn't Trumps. Brexit will no doubt be shit but this guys is literally just a rich clown so why should I trust his word?
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No offense, but did you? Woody wasn't at the briefing in the video in the OP. The ones who gave it were career diplomats. Their identities are expressly mentioned. Woody gave extremely pro-Brexit comments in the episode.
I mean it's kind of implied I watched it. I'm assuming most watched that 2 minute clip not the 45 minutes it was cut from. This Woody guy made multiple ridiculous statements including how the UK should copy much of what Trump does. Its hard to take someone like that seriously There's a lot better sources for info than this idiot.
Also he's serving the interests of the US not the UK so of course hes pro Brexit? I don't get how that's even a positive let alone how it effects him being a trump stooge and by effect a pretty untrustworthy source.
Absolutely this, there's no doubt a ton of people who voted Brexit for racist reasons but the Tories austerity has had a huge impact on people too. This whole mess at the moment was created by the Tories; they offered the vote and they also created a situation of no hope with a large amount of people who were stupid enough to be manipulated into voting for "change".
In an economy which was working for everyone the vote wouldn't have even been close. Labour aren't innocent of failing the people who voted for them either.
If you think this leads to Socialism I have a bridge to sell you. People double down on their racism.
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I don't follow. Woody isn't the source of this information. He's not even in the video in the OP. And him being pro-Brexit isn't a positive, but a confirmation that he is "a rich clown with no actual experience other than throwing money at Trump".
This is the "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" phrase but directed at a whole country.
Everything we consume on a daily basis is made from raw material sourced from many different parts of the world and manufactured in locations all over the world. Isolating yourself in such a globalized world economy is like shooting yourself in both knees.
Everything we consume on a daily basis is made from raw material sourced from many different parts of the world and manufactured in locations all over the world. Isolating yourself in such a globalized world economy is like shooting yourself in both knees.
Why does it need to lead to socialism. For a lot of us, it is enough to lead away from *here*.
Indeed, your post history is evidence enough that you are fine with far right populism.
You'll find absolutely nothing in my post history to support anything to do with the far right .
I would say you can do better than automatically equating voting leave with the far right, but I won't, because you clearly are incapable.
Ah that's my bad. I totally misinterpreted your post and the OP. I'll admit I kinda glanced at it then just decided to watch it. Was shocked by how ridiculous the current ambassador was and I guess I must have zoned out a little when the bit in the OP was on.
Not just on this site, you have complained about identity politics and social justice. Also no, there are no sane reasons to vote Leave unless you are concerned over tax haven status. This is firmly established, so is the fact that Brexit is absolutely to do with racism, that is not even a question. Just because you have a batshit mental position divorced from reality just makes you a unicorn, an irrelevant statistic.
Our government is literally run by lemmings. I'm pretty sure they could stop this at any time but they're so full of themselves and terrified of political suicide that they're just closing their eyes and pushing down on the pedal.
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He is, he admitted to being so
https://www.resetera.com/threads/br...ayments-study-shows.51047/page-2#post-9628822
but mods don't seem to care.
No, I said I was being provocative.
As in, trying to provoke people to think about this differently.
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troll (trōl)
v. trolled, troll·ing, trolls
To post inflammatory or irrelevant material on (an electronic forum) to provoke responses.
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/troll
derp.
How were you provoking people, you ask? And why was it so important that people knew you were doing so beforehand so as to moderate their responses? It certainly wasn't by making points or crafting arguments, as you explicitly refused to do so.
As I said before, obvious troll is obvious.
Well it's only inflammatory because you guys disagree. Leave voters are in the majority. It's a commonly held view. A majority view, never forget.
Back on topic, what's wrong with a vote rejecting the status quo, that doesn't work for a lot of people? Judging people on their mainstream political views doesn't seem very liberal or understanding to me .
Are you for real?[/rhetorical question ( I know the answer, thank you Jackpot)
Rejecting the status quo while having no idea what the alternative is, is as has been pointed out many times like throwing out the paddle because you aren't moving fast enough without having that petrol powered motor in the hold to use instead and then just being stranded at high seas...
Bob Dylan put it well when he sang
"When you ain't got nothing, you got nothing to lose."
You'd maybe like to see a full forensic analysis of what Leave might look like before voting for it, including a counterfactual account of what post 1970s UK would have been like outside the EU. That ain't happening.
"When you ain't got nothing, you got nothing to lose."
You'd maybe like to see a full forensic analysis of what Leave might look like before voting for it, including a counterfactual account of what post 1970s UK would have been like outside the EU. That ain't happening.
Except the EU isn't a deceptively small vicious animal. It is a visibly monstrous 800 pound gorilla that the UK thinks it the equal of.Government negotiating team actually negotiating with the EU
The fact so many little englanders genuinely think they have nothing to lose really does highlight the cancerous privilege, apathy and ignorance plaguing this country.
Yes, millions of people live in awful poverty, but even they still have a lot to lose. Try surviving a year in a country without our substantial social safety nets and see if you still share that view. The Ofsted chief was right, but introspection is a sin in this country, and it's much easier to blame others who manage to achieve more with less.
Reality says hi (unfortunately):
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...re-ryanair-to-sell-tickets-with-brexit-caveat
There's presently no sign of an accord on aviation regulation, as far as I'm aware. Grounding flights could happen and operators obviously think it could if they're briefing the media to that effect.
Fuck this government, and the Tory party, right into the bin.
At least you yourself pinpointed exactly one of the greatest logical fallacies that produced Brexit:
It can't get any worse, so any change will be positive.
That is without a doubt one of the dumbest things to seriously believe, period. And I do include stuff like 'Flat-Earth Theory' in here. I mean, look at genuinely poor countries on earth right now. Look at how rich today's UK is compared to basically any other point in history.
To go in and claim: You know what, this is all complete garbage, let's overthrow the majority of our economy because of some meanies in Brussels, and it will be a better outcome in any scenario regardless how unprepared or ill-conceived it all is. Darwin-Award level behaviour on a national level, absolutely pathetic.
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My goodness, someone's grumpy. Empathy not your strong point I see.